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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:09 am

Who was doubting the protocols recently?

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:11 am

Get Real! wrote:Who was doubting the protocols recently?

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

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Me! I was doubting the Protocols because they are a load of bullshit! :wink:

Btw, I got no time to watch this silly YouTube. Once I know it's shit, I just don't watch! :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:32 pm

Paphitis = from another thread:
But I can tell you that in the Australian Military everyone is made to spit their chips and blood. It wouldn't matter if you were the son of the Chief or the son of John Howard or Tony Abbott.

When you go through the gates, everyone is a friggin maggot and they won't let you forget it. It was the most terrifying experience in my life and felt like we were being processed at Auschwitz.


BINGO! I didn’t know you were ex-military. That explains why you hate Putin so much and revere the mighty US! You are ex-military and to date I have yet to find a single ex-military type that thinks any differently from you. Paphitis ..... it is called brain washing and your own comments above prove it.

Be realistic ..... the military CANNOT exist without brain washing! As an ex-officer once said to me “You cannot have everyone in the Military expressing their personal views as to what is right and what is morally wrong because the military would just grind to a standstill.” ‘They’ are not interested in your view, you are just there to do what you are expected to do, like a ‘friggin maggot’. To operate ‘They’ need all of you to sing from the same hymn sheet without dissent and ‘They’ write the tune. This is irrefutable!

Once conditioned to think how you are told to and how you are expected to think, it is very difficult to break out of this preconditioned environment and draw your own conclusions. You will end up being incapable of even forming a broadly unbiased opinion based on available fact because anything contrary to your ingrained views is regarded as simply ‘Russian’ propaganda. No thought at all that maybe it is YOU that is the one falling for propaganda.

We got Pootin singing our tune now.


Come on Paphitis, even with your prejudices you don’t really believe that. All you have to do is look at what has taken place since Russia decided to exert their authority a couple of months ago ..... everything is changing on a daily basis. It would be far more plausible to assume it is your coalition that is singing to Putins tune, agreed not too enthusiastically and may need a kick every so often, but to believe that the coalition is running the show really is naive of you. But given the above ..... not surprising. :roll:

Have a nice Christmas and get ready to eat humble pie in 2016 ........... when, as you say, there are going to be great changes in Syria! :wink: :)
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:47 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis = from another thread:
But I can tell you that in the Australian Military everyone is made to spit their chips and blood. It wouldn't matter if you were the son of the Chief or the son of John Howard or Tony Abbott.

When you go through the gates, everyone is a friggin maggot and they won't let you forget it. It was the most terrifying experience in my life and felt like we were being processed at Auschwitz.


BINGO! I didn’t know you were ex-military. That explains why you hate Putin so much and revere the mighty US! You are ex-military and to date I have yet to find a single ex-military type that thinks any differently from you. Paphitis ..... it is called brain washing and your own comments above prove it.

Be realistic ..... the military CANNOT exist without brain washing! As an ex-officer once said to me “You cannot have everyone in the Military expressing their personal views as to what is right and what is morally wrong because the military would just grind to a standstill.” ‘They’ are not interested in your view, you are just there to do what you are expected to do, like a ‘friggin maggot’. To operate ‘They’ need all of you to sing from the same hymn sheet without dissent and ‘They’ write the tune. This is irrefutable!

Once conditioned to think how you are told to and how you are expected to think, it is very difficult to break out of this preconditioned environment and draw your own conclusions. You will end up being incapable of even forming a broadly unbiased opinion based on available fact because anything contrary to your ingrained views is regarded as simply ‘Russian’ propaganda. No thought at all that maybe it is YOU that is the one falling for propaganda.

We got Pootin singing our tune now.


Come on Paphitis, even with your prejudices you don’t really believe that. All you have to do is look at what has taken place since Russia decided to exert their authority a couple of months ago ..... everything is changing on a daily basis. It would be far more plausible to assume it is your coalition that is singing to Putins tune, agreed not too enthusiastically and may need a kick every so often, but to believe that the coalition is running the show really is naive of you. But given the above ..... not surprising. :roll:

Have a nice Christmas and get ready to eat humble pie in 2016 ........... when, as you say, there are going to be great changes in Syria! :wink: :)


brain washing? Oh please RH you can do better than that.

The only thing I was taught was a bit of nationalism, patriotism, how to work in a team, to respect my peers, never give up and to go through pain barriers.

But yes you are correct. We got no time for Pootin. The USA is a vital ally and we know they will be there when we need them.

And yes, I will always support Australia and the people we send to the Middle East, Afghanistan or Iraq.

We have a lot to fear from Pootin because he is low and unpredictable.

But no, we are not brainwashed.

And yes everything I write are my honest beliefs and prejudices, plus my own bias which I do not apologize for.

Pootin is singing our tune alright. He has agreed to regime change. I am sure he will get his pay out and probably secure his strategic assets which are of little concern to us. But we get Assad's head and that is critical to get this peace process on the move.

Yes I am coalition 100%
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:53 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis = from another thread:
But I can tell you that in the Australian Military everyone is made to spit their chips and blood. It wouldn't matter if you were the son of the Chief or the son of John Howard or Tony Abbott.

When you go through the gates, everyone is a friggin maggot and they won't let you forget it. It was the most terrifying experience in my life and felt like we were being processed at Auschwitz.


BINGO! I didn’t know you were ex-military. That explains why you hate Putin so much and revere the mighty US! You are ex-military and to date I have yet to find a single ex-military type that thinks any differently from you. Paphitis ..... it is called brain washing and your own comments above prove it.

Be realistic ..... the military CANNOT exist without brain washing! As an ex-officer once said to me “You cannot have everyone in the Military expressing their personal views as to what is right and what is morally wrong because the military would just grind to a standstill.” ‘They’ are not interested in your view, you are just there to do what you are expected to do, like a ‘friggin maggot’. To operate ‘They’ need all of you to sing from the same hymn sheet without dissent and ‘They’ write the tune. This is irrefutable!

Once conditioned to think how you are told to and how you are expected to think, it is very difficult to break out of this preconditioned environment and draw your own conclusions. You will end up being incapable of even forming a broadly unbiased opinion based on available fact because anything contrary to your ingrained views is regarded as simply ‘Russian’ propaganda. No thought at all that maybe it is YOU that is the one falling for propaganda.

We got Pootin singing our tune now.


Come on Paphitis, even with your prejudices you don’t really believe that. All you have to do is look at what has taken place since Russia decided to exert their authority a couple of months ago ..... everything is changing on a daily basis. It would be far more plausible to assume it is your coalition that is singing to Putins tune, agreed not too enthusiastically and may need a kick every so often, but to believe that the coalition is running the show really is naive of you. But given the above ..... not surprising. :roll:

Have a nice Christmas and get ready to eat humble pie in 2016 ........... when, as you say, there are going to be great changes in Syria! :wink: :)


Oh and Merry Christmas RH.

Pootin will be eating Apple Pie in 2016! :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:08 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
No, they did not start their revolutionary spring first and since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

The coalition has no legitimacy here. They are hypocrites.


Exactly! Since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

We want everyone to have their say, Alawites included. The Sunnis comprise 70% of the population.

Yes they started the Spring alright in 2010.

The Coalition is here to stay until the job is finished. Even if it takes us a while we are still going to finish it and Assad can blow us!

Prepare yourself for the transition. Get that white hanky out and prepare to say Bye Bye to Assad. We got Pootin singing our tune now.


So what's wrong with the idea of having a ceasefire in Syria for 6 month and then have an election where EVERYONE can vote for whomever they want, including Assad, and who ever gets the majority vote can be the president and then form a democratic government. Would you and the west support that Paphitis?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:35 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
No, they did not start their revolutionary spring first and since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

The coalition has no legitimacy here. They are hypocrites.


Exactly! Since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

We want everyone to have their say, Alawites included. The Sunnis comprise 70% of the population.

Yes they started the Spring alright in 2010.

The Coalition is here to stay until the job is finished. Even if it takes us a while we are still going to finish it and Assad can blow us!

Prepare yourself for the transition. Get that white hanky out and prepare to say Bye Bye to Assad. We got Pootin singing our tune now.


So what's wrong with the idea of having a ceasefire in Syria for 6 month and then have an election where EVERYONE can vote for whomever they want, including Assad, and who ever gets the majority vote can be the president and then form a democratic government. Would you and the west support that Paphitis?


No issue I am sure as long as a few conditions are met.

No one is convinced that any elections in Syria would be fair.

Therefore, any election under those terms will need to be administered by the UN, and before any poll takes place, every person in Syria will need to be registered to vote with polling stations placed where they are easily accessed by the majority of people.

It was never put on the agenda, but I don't believe any country in the coalition will have issues with a UN Administered election where everyone has the opportunity to vote. Logistically it would be tough in the war torn country and some areas will not be accessed for obvious reasons, but the world's resources can pull it off.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Kikapu » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:06 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
No, they did not start their revolutionary spring first and since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

The coalition has no legitimacy here. They are hypocrites.


Exactly! Since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

We want everyone to have their say, Alawites included. The Sunnis comprise 70% of the population.

Yes they started the Spring alright in 2010.

The Coalition is here to stay until the job is finished. Even if it takes us a while we are still going to finish it and Assad can blow us!

Prepare yourself for the transition. Get that white hanky out and prepare to say Bye Bye to Assad. We got Pootin singing our tune now.


So what's wrong with the idea of having a ceasefire in Syria for 6 month and then have an election where EVERYONE can vote for whomever they want, including Assad, and who ever gets the majority vote can be the president and then form a democratic government. Would you and the west support that Paphitis?


No issue I am sure as long as a few conditions are met.

No one is convinced that any elections in Syria would be fair.

Therefore, any election under those terms will need to be administered by the UN, and before any poll takes place, every person in Syria will need to be registered to vote with polling stations placed where they are easily accessed by the majority of people.

It was never put on the agenda, but I don't believe any country in the coalition will have issues with a UN Administered election where everyone has the opportunity to vote. Logistically it would be tough in the war torn country and some areas will not be accessed for obvious reasons, but the world's resources can pull it off.


So why doesn't the west ask for a UN administered elections in Syria and let the Syrian population decide Assad's fate rather than demand that he leaves now when there is a war going on. If Syrians do not want Assad and they want some terrorist Isil member, then so be it, and lets see how many in the west will be happy with that outcome.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:09 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
No, they did not start their revolutionary spring first and since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

The coalition has no legitimacy here. They are hypocrites.


Exactly! Since when do minorities dictate to the majority?

We want everyone to have their say, Alawites included. The Sunnis comprise 70% of the population.

Yes they started the Spring alright in 2010.

The Coalition is here to stay until the job is finished. Even if it takes us a while we are still going to finish it and Assad can blow us!

Prepare yourself for the transition. Get that white hanky out and prepare to say Bye Bye to Assad. We got Pootin singing our tune now.


So what's wrong with the idea of having a ceasefire in Syria for 6 month and then have an election where EVERYONE can vote for whomever they want, including Assad, and who ever gets the majority vote can be the president and then form a democratic government. Would you and the west support that Paphitis?


No issue I am sure as long as a few conditions are met.

No one is convinced that any elections in Syria would be fair.

Therefore, any election under those terms will need to be administered by the UN, and before any poll takes place, every person in Syria will need to be registered to vote with polling stations placed where they are easily accessed by the majority of people.

It was never put on the agenda, but I don't believe any country in the coalition will have issues with a UN Administered election where everyone has the opportunity to vote. Logistically it would be tough in the war torn country and some areas will not be accessed for obvious reasons, but the world's resources can pull it off.


So why doesn't the west ask for a UN administered elections in Syria and let the Syrian population decide Assad's fate rather than demand that he leaves now when there is a war going on. If Syrians do not want Assad and they want some terrorist Isil member, then so be it, and lets see how many in the west will be happy with that outcome.


They probably have. They would have mentioned this when Pootin was saying it is up to the Syrian People.

The coalition is not opposed to it provided there are guarantees that the elections are fair and accessible even in rebel held areas. There is the big issue.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Lordo » Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:12 am

dont be stupid hamas was elected in gaza and the yanks or the west have not accepted them. so were the brotherhood in egypt and they were removed too. you are a 2 year old child when it comes to politics. considering your age you should be ashamed.
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