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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:04 pm

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The first of many....... IS will have them ALL under control soon enough, the Yanks and the Brits are shitting themselves.

Wishful thinking? I can’t think five aircraft will make much difference and IS as a military force is finished anyway or will be within weeks/months but, the ideology will last well into the future, will spread Worldwide and take the lives of thousands!

Syria/Iraq : Just to recap and I may well have got this all wrong but what strikes me is that:

We have two conflicts running in parallel.

In the first (Syria), an elected government is using the air power of a foreign country to destroy terrorist groups trying to take over their country from within (IS + FSA + rebels), whilst they take the war to their enemy using their own government’s ground forces and those of allies.

In the second (Iraq) an elected government is using the air power of a foreign country(ies) to destroy a terrorist group trying to take over their country from within (IS), whilst they take the war to their enemy using their government’s ground forces and those of allies.

In other words they are both fighting a common enemy called IS/ISIS/ISIL/Daesh? But ..........

In Syria the government is fighting the same insurgents as the western coalition is fighting in Iraq (IS) with the legal backing of the Russian Air Force, but the (US) coalition is also arming and supporting another bunch of insurgents in Syria who are trying to overthrow the Syrian government (FSA+ various .moderate’ rebel groups) but who themselves are in turn, also fighting (supposedly) the same bunch of insurgents as the Syrian Government (IS). In addition a member of the Western coalition (Turkey) is supporting terrorists (Turkomen?) who are also intent on overthrowing the legitimate Syrian government as well as fighting IS (supposedly)

The Syrian government also has the support of Iranian and Hezbollah as boots on the ground and they have prevented the US backed FSA+ from completely overwhelming the SAA.

Another group of insurgents (PKK?) are fighting Turkey and IS and occupy part of Syria. Several other members (Saudi, Bahrain, Qatar et al) of the US coalition are also threatening to mobilise and illegally send combat troops into Syria to supposedly fight the first lot of insurgents (IS) but are opposed to the Syrian government and support and arm the FSA+ who are fighting a civil war using many foreign fighters (Mercenaries) to change the regime in Syria.

If I have missed out any group’s who are fighting Assad I apologise for the omission! :wink:

In Iraq the government is fighting the same insurgents as the Assad/Russian coalition is fighting in Syria (IS) with the legal backing of the US/coalition air forces and is backed by 60 countries (in theory only about 5-6 are military active in the air)

That’s it!!!!! .......... the US coalition are not having to fight anyone BUT IS/ISIL/ISIS/Daesh or whatever name they call themselves by! Nobody else is attacking the US coalition.

The US coalition has been active and ‘destroying’ IS, for over two years but is virtually in a stale mate as IS still occupy large swathes of Iraq and Syria. In contrast and in spite of the Syrian government having to fight enemies on about four different fronts, with the Russians entering the conflict to legally support the Syrian government just 17 weeks ago they have driven back both IS and the FSA+ on almost every front and now have some 5000 insurgents trapped in a cauldron centred around Aleppo, along with an estimated 300K civilians.

There have obviously been civilian casualties, which is inevitable in any conflict more so in a civil war, but when an authoritative source such as the BBC are caught out using archive footage to wrongly accuse Russian bombing for the damage and the deaths in Aleppo, then the figures of casualties cannot be relied upon. This Syrian Observatory also misleads by giving ‘civilian’ casualty figures which include Islamic fighters and foreign fighters. :x

Although there has been the opportunity to formulate a ceasefire many times since 2012, the US coalition has always refused to discuss this ...... until now that is, when they at last realise that the rebels they back are being thrashed by Assad and the Russian coalition, in fact it is a complete rout! :shock:

Russia has presented a plan, which no doubt the US will ignore unless it covers all the demands of the Rebels. But Russia and Assad have the upper hand ........ they are winning the battle and the US/coalition and the rebels, are on the losing side. Without risking an escalation the US will have to accept that the best they will get from Assad and Russia, is concessions. That is the way it works! :|

If the Saudi’s are stupid enough to invade Syria, the Russia/Assad coalition will wipe them out ..... and the US will NOT get involved, neither will members of the coalition. NATO principals are that they will join forces to protect a member who has/is being attacked ....... they have no obligation to support any member country that is the instigator of the hostilities. If you want an example think about Saddam and Kuwait? The US turned a blind eye to the threat from Saddam and it is suggested, even told Saddam they would not interfere ...... that was until he made his move. Saudi should note what happens when the US decides you have served your purpose and have morphed into a liability! Look at Iraq now ...... the perfect example of a once prosperous nation that is now a failed state. Libya was the same story and there are several other examples. :x


DAESH are our boogey man so stay away. It's personal!

But not as personal as Assad and Pootin who are the biggest threats. We are happy to put DAESH on the back burner for now as we have Aleppo to defend. Pootin is the biggest threat.

Just come and get it and we will see how far you get in the urban environment. But make sure to stop in 6.5 days and God help you should you not succeed!'

You know, you never cease to amaze me. So much hatred for the America and the West, yet both of you have British citizenship. Talk about going against the grain. So what gives?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:28 pm

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Yes the humble pie is a great idea since you will need it.

Don’t bank on it my friend! :wink:
Whew are only buying time.

That our President Putin is well aware of, which is why he will continue to bomb and the SAA will continue their attacks. Time is something you do not have! Russia has too much experience of the US and their inordinate ability to lie, cheat and steal, at the drop of a hat ..... and think nobody notices! Putin is not going to allow you to resupply them, or give the rebels the opportunity to regroup. They are about to find out that adrenalin is brown, sloppy and smells! That Putin is one smart Dude! 8)
Here is the situation. If we hold Aleppo, which is likely, then we will go for the ceasefire as per our terms which are to allow aid in. If we do not hold onto Aleppo, then we do not need any ceasefire but we do need time to prepare the deployment of our troops.

You have lost Aleppo! The place is locked down (a cauldron, nowhere to run?) so no cease fire on your terms and no redeployment. But Putin/Assad will still try to get aid to the civilians and hopefully will open up humanitarian corridors so the civilians can get out before he annihilates your ‘moderate’ terrorists or they agree to lay down their weapons.
What we anticipate is Assad violating the ceasefire by blocking the supply corridors for aid. But the good thing is that we get a week for preparations for the Saudi Invasion.

If the ceasefire is violated it will be by your ‘moderates’¬ Saudi :lol: .......... an invasion :lol: ...... Putin must be quaking in his shoes. The Saudis can’t even defend themselves from the Houthi’s in Yemen so what will they do when faced with a real military? They have been warned and I repeat ...... the US coalition will not put boots on the ground or risk their aircraft to save their skins ...... the Saudi’s will be reunited with the sands of the desert!
Watch and learn!

I have been and will continue to learn from the US coalition’s mistakes and inability to outflank a real leader like President Vladimir Ivanovitch Putin of the Russian Federation!
Oh btw, Coalition air strikes have begun around Aleppo.

Yes , so I heard! Two A-10’s of the USAF managed to blow up an eye hospital, denied it was them and tried to blame it on the Russians. The only problem is that the Russians didn’t have any aircraft anywhere near Aleppo on the day in question. Shame on you for bombing innocent civilians! :x
DAESH are our boogey man so stay away. It's personal!

True! The US and the Western powers created Daesh in the first place by whatever name they had at that time ...... and then they lost control of them. Just like they did with the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Nazi’s they engineered into power in Ukraine.
But not as personal as Assad and Pootin who are the biggest threats. We are happy to put DAESH on the back burner for now as we have Aleppo to defend. Pootin is the biggest threat.

True! Assad and Putin are the real threat to all terrorists and have demonstrated their prowess in dealing with them in less than four months. A complete reversal of the situation in just 17 weeks is not bad going, is it? I mean, the US coalition has been at it in one form or another for almost five years and have just got themselves deeper and deeper into the sh*t! Forget Aleppo, that is gone ........ and start thinking about Raqqa, as that is next on Assad/Putins ‘ to-do’ list!
Just come and get it and we will see how far you get in the urban environment. But make sure to stop in 6.5 days and God help you should you not succeed!'

You mean an urban (warfare) environment Islam style? Like using civilians as human shields and scuttling underground through the basements and tunnels they have had four years to construct? The Syrian government and their Russian allies will not stop until they have exterminated the vermin the US coalition created, supported and armed .... which they claim are moderate terrorists .... have you ever heard such rubbish? :lol: :lol: A terrorist, is a terrorist, is a terrorist ..... there ain’t no such thing as a moderate terrorist!
You know, you never cease to amaze me. So much hatred for the America and the West, yet both of you have British citizenship. Talk about going against the grain. So what gives?

Just like the American people ..... I don’t hate Americans but I have no respect for their criminal government(s), a small elite that have total disregard for International Law and for the sovereignty of other Nations. Likewise, I don’t hate the people of the West but they are relatively dumb, believe everything they are fed by the ‘presstitutes’ and their corrupt self serving governments and will do anything for the quiet life. It’s called burying your head in the sand!

Yes I have a British passport but I have not lived in the UK for over 40 years. I have lived in various European Countries, several in the ME, North Africa and a short spell in the Far East. So you are right, I go against the grain because I am not brainwashed by my government and because I have seen many of these countries up-front-and-personal. I also have the annoying habit of working things out for myself rather than just swallowing the crap the main stream media spews out on behalf of corrupt governments. That obviously makes me a bit different and, although I always take people as I find them, I am my own man and not easily fooled but not infallible! :roll: :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Feb 12, 2016 9:02 pm

US A-10s bombed city of Aleppo on Wednesday, shifted blame onto Moscow – Russian military – RT

https://www.rt.com/news/332109-russian-jets-isis-warlords/

Syria conflict: Rebels 'feel abandoned' by Britain and US – BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35546671

US-backed syrian rebels claim ‘it’s over’ after Aleppo losses

http://www.blacklistednews.com/US-Backed_Syrian_Rebels_Claim_%E2%80%98It%E2%80%99s_Over%E2%80%99_After_Aleppo_Losses/48824/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Syrian Government Forces and Russian Warplanes Storm Islamic State (ISIS) Defense Lines in Raqqa Province – South Front

http://www.globalresearch.ca/syrian-government-forces-and-russian-warplanes-storm-islamic-state-isis-defense-lines-in-raqqa-province/5507291

Fleeing Syria Militants Are Disguised as Aleppo Civilians. Several Opposition Groups “Cooperating with Syrian Government” - ITAR-TASS

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fleeing-syria-militants-are-disguised-as-aleppo-civilians-several-opposition-groups-cooperating-with-syrian-government/5507319
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:29 am

Yes the humble pie is a great idea since you will need it.


Robin Hood wrote:Don’t bank on it my friend! :wink:


Oh boy you are in for it. What do you expect? That Assad will just go on and rule like nothing happened?

Whew are only buying time.


Robin Hood wrote:That our President Putin is well aware of, which is why he will continue to bomb and the SAA will continue their attacks. Time is something you do not have! Russia has too much experience of the US and their inordinate ability to lie, cheat and steal, at the drop of a hat ..... and think nobody notices! Putin is not going to allow you to resupply them, or give the rebels the opportunity to regroup. They are about to find out that adrenalin is brown, sloppy and smells! That Putin is one smart Dude! 8)


We are expecting the violations to come thick and fast from Pootin/Assad. It will only harness public opinion further to our side. :D

Here is the situation. If we hold Aleppo, which is likely, then we will go for the ceasefire as per our terms which are to allow aid in. If we do not hold onto Aleppo, then we do not need any ceasefire but we do need time to prepare the deployment of our troops.


Robin Hood wrote:You have lost Aleppo! The place is locked down (a cauldron, nowhere to run?) so no cease fire on your terms and no redeployment. But Putin/Assad will still try to get aid to the civilians and hopefully will open up humanitarian corridors so the civilians can get out before he annihilates your ‘moderate’ terrorists or they agree to lay down their weapons.


No we haven't. All we have lost is is 2 supply lines. We expect to resume Air Lifts within 6 days.

We very much still have Aleppo under our control.

What we anticipate is Assad violating the ceasefire by blocking the supply corridors for aid. But the good thing is that we get a week for preparations for the Saudi Invasion.


Robin Hood wrote:If the ceasefire is violated it will be by your ‘moderates’¬ Saudi :lol: .......... an invasion :lol: ...... Putin must be quaking in his shoes. The Saudis can’t even defend themselves from the Houthi’s in Yemen so what will they do when faced with a real military? They have been warned and I repeat ...... the US coalition will not put boots on the ground or risk their aircraft to save their skins ...... the Saudi’s will be reunited with the sands of the desert!


Don't worry, we will make sure they stay on the Saudi side of the border until Assad/Pootin violate the cessation first Then the Saudis will respond to the violations by forcibly taking control of the supply routes.

Watch and learn!


Robin Hood wrote:I have been and will continue to learn from the US coalition’s mistakes and inability to outflank a real leader like President Vladimir Ivanovitch Putin of the Russian Federation!


Strong leadership in bombing civilians. I succumb to that. Obviously its a no contest.

Oh btw, Coalition air strikes have begun around Aleppo.


Robin Hood wrote:Yes , so I heard! Two A-10’s of the USAF managed to blow up an eye hospital, denied it was them and tried to blame it on the Russians. The only problem is that the Russians didn’t have any aircraft anywhere near Aleppo on the day in question. Shame on you for bombing innocent civilians! :x


Snap! The coalition has by no means begun air operations around Aleppo. If it did, then believe me, the Assad regime will feel it, and its progress will stall. With the A-10, it will lose all its Armour at least.

DAESH are our boogey man so stay away. It's personal!


Robin Hood wrote:True! The US and the Western powers created Daesh in the first place by whatever name they had at that time ...... and then they lost control of them. Just like they did with the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Nazi’s they engineered into power in Ukraine.


Bullshit! I will not even dignify your poor accusations.

But not as personal as Assad and Pootin who are the biggest threats. We are happy to put DAESH on the back burner for now as we have Aleppo to defend. Pootin is the biggest threat.


Robin Hood wrote:True! Assad and Putin are the real threat to all terrorists and have demonstrated their prowess in dealing with them in less than four months. A complete reversal of the situation in just 17 weeks is not bad going, is it? I mean, the US coalition has been at it in one form or another for almost five years and have just got themselves deeper and deeper into the sh*t! Forget Aleppo, that is gone ........ and start thinking about Raqqa, as that is next on Assad/Putins ‘ to-do’ list!


Assad is the real threat against peace and stability in Syria. He is the one that started this.

Pootin is a global threat to peace and stability.

Just come and get it and we will see how far you get in the urban environment. But make sure to stop in 6.5 days and God help you should you not succeed!'


Robin Hood wrote:You mean an urban (warfare) environment Islam style? Like using civilians as human shields and scuttling underground through the basements and tunnels they have had four years to construct? The Syrian government and their Russian allies will not stop until they have exterminated the vermin the US coalition created, supported and armed .... which they claim are moderate terrorists .... have you ever heard such rubbish? :lol: :lol: A terrorist, is a terrorist, is a terrorist ..... there ain’t no such thing as a moderate terrorist!


No that is not how the SDF play. The SDF is not only Muslim. There are Christian factions within it. I can't remember the name of the rebel group.

They will fight the best way they can, using the resources they have available. Unfortunately, the rebels themselves are well protected. Pootin's bombings mostly kill innocent civilians, not rebels.

You know, you never cease to amaze me. So much hatred for the America and the West, yet both of you have British citizenship. Talk about going against the grain. So what gives?


Robin Hood wrote:Just like the American people ..... I don’t hate Americans but I have no respect for their criminal government(s), a small elite that have total disregard for International Law and for the sovereignty of other Nations. Likewise, I don’t hate the people of the West but they are relatively dumb, believe everything they are fed by the ‘presstitutes’ and their corrupt self serving governments and will do anything for the quiet life. It’s called burying your head in the sand!


I am sure Americans will thank you for your total arrogance towards them.

And hah! If it wasn't for America, there would be absolutely zero regard for International Law.

Robin Hood wrote:Yes I have a British passport but I have not lived in the UK for over 40 years. I have lived in various European Countries, several in the ME, North Africa and a short spell in the Far East. So you are right, I go against the grain because I am not brainwashed by my government and because I have seen many of these countries up-front-and-personal. I also have the annoying habit of working things out for myself rather than just swallowing the crap the main stream media spews out on behalf of corrupt governments. That obviously makes me a bit different and, although I always take people as I find them, I am my own man and not easily fooled but not infallible! :roll: :wink:


Oh wow. So you have lived in some of the Sunni Gulf States.

Well if that is the case, then you shouldn't be spouting all the lies about their fanaticism.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:32 am

Robin Hood wrote:US A-10s bombed city of Aleppo on Wednesday, shifted blame onto Moscow – Russian military – RT

https://www.rt.com/news/332109-russian-jets-isis-warlords/

Syria conflict: Rebels 'feel abandoned' by Britain and US – BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35546671

US-backed syrian rebels claim ‘it’s over’ after Aleppo losses

http://www.blacklistednews.com/US-Backed_Syrian_Rebels_Claim_%E2%80%98It%E2%80%99s_Over%E2%80%99_After_Aleppo_Losses/48824/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Syrian Government Forces and Russian Warplanes Storm Islamic State (ISIS) Defense Lines in Raqqa Province – South Front

http://www.globalresearch.ca/syrian-government-forces-and-russian-warplanes-storm-islamic-state-isis-defense-lines-in-raqqa-province/5507291

Fleeing Syria Militants Are Disguised as Aleppo Civilians. Several Opposition Groups “Cooperating with Syrian Government” - ITAR-TASS

http://www.globalresearch.ca/fleeing-syria-militants-are-disguised-as-aleppo-civilians-several-opposition-groups-cooperating-with-syrian-government/5507319


I was wondering how long it will take you to post Russian propaganda and lies about the coalition A-10 strikes around Aleppo.

Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to see coalition A-10 strikes against Syrian and Hezbollah Forces. If I was US President, that is exactly what would be happening.

What took you so long anyway?

BTW, the SDF and the Saudis are goading the USA. :D
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:01 pm

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Oh boy you are in for it. What do you expect? That Assad will just go on and rule like nothing happened?

That will be for the Syrian people to decide as Putin keeps telling you!
We are expecting the violations to come thick and fast from Pootin/Assad. It will only harness public opinion further to our side.

It hasn’t even started yet and the rebels have already said they will not observe any ‘pause’ in hostilities. So situation normal then? Public opinion, look at the comments after any of your MSM reports/articles on Syria and the vast majority of them are pro-Putin!
No we haven't. All we have lost is 2 supply lines. We expect to resume Air Lifts within 6 days.

Aleppo is lost to the Islamic terrorists, many of whom are now switching sides ...... because they don’t wanna die ..... paradise or no-paradise! It is Assad/Russia that are dropping supplies to the besieged areas in Syria.
We very much still have Aleppo under our control.

Look out of the window! A few blocks maybe but not for much longer!
Don't worry, we will make sure they stay on the Saudi side of the border until Assad/Pootin violate the cessation first Then the Saudis will respond to the violations by forcibly taking control of the supply routes.

That would be an act of war and as you have pointed out previously, every nation has the right to self defence. Assad/Russia will let them advance a few K’s over the border and will then annihilate them.
Strong leadership in bombing civilians. I succumb to that. Obviously its a no contest.

Assad/Russia do not deliberately target civilians unlike the Islamic extremists. No doubt sometimes that will happen as it does when the coalition get the coordinates a bit off. But apart from the terrorists, I don’t think either the Russians or the US would deliberately kill civilians. CUI BONO ....... neither side! :roll:
Snap! The coalition has by no means begun air operations around Aleppo. If it did, then believe me, the Assad regime will feel it, and its progress will stall. With the A-10, it will lose all its Armour at least.

I thought you just pointed out that they had begun their Syrian air war in Aleppo? More bum information from your sources.
(ISIS a US creation)Bullshit! I will not even dignify your poor accusations
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Has not the continuous conflict in the Arab/Muslim countries for the last couple of decades, ALL instigated by US interests, not caused all the resentment in the ME, which in turn switches on the fanatics? Then the US arms and trains them! Just how dumb can you get ...... of course the US was the source of the Jihadists. It certainly wasn’t Putin ..... he put down the Chechen Islamic extremists before they got a strangle hold.
Assad is the real threat against peace and stability in Syria. He is the one that started this.

All he wants is what ALL Syrians want ..... their country taken back from the Islamic extremist proxy armies YOU created. The conflict was instigated by the US as it was every where else there is conflict ....... they do it to protect their National Security .... pity they don't go back to North America and do it from there!

The Islamist have minimal support which is why they and the US sing the same tune ‘Assad has to go!’ because if there IS a UN supervised election there is an odds on chance that Assad will win hands down. Now ..... you couldn’t possibly have that happen as it really would upset all the US’s plans for Syria!
Pootin is a global threat to peace and stability.

Putin is the only one ensuring peace and stability by reining in US Hegemony and colonial plans for the rest of the World!
No that is not how the SDF play. The SDF is not only Muslim. There are Christian factions within it. I can't remember the name of the rebel group.

That is the problem ..... the US coalition doesn’t know their ass from their elbow when it comes to deciding who is the good terrorist and who is the bad terrorist. They keep changing their names and allegiances. But Putin knows ...... ALL OF THEM ....... his response is to bomb the hell out of them and send them all to paradise!
They will fight the best way they can, using the resources they have available. Unfortunately, the rebels themselves are well protected. Pootin's bombings mostly kill innocent civilians, not rebels.

I think not! You have been taking the Syrian Observatory of Human Right figures verbatim. When will you understand that the SOHR includes as civilians, anyone who is not in the FSA and that is most of the rebels. The rebels ARE well protected as they skulk in the basements of civilian housing, hide in markets or other civilian areas, dress like the locals, hide among them or just scuttle away down their rat holes.

(The SAA captured a couple the other day dressed as women to avoid capture, but the locals pointed them out to the soldiers. When they unpacked their bags, guess what ....... they had many pairs of frilly panties ...... for their promised supply of virgins in Paradise.)
I am sure Americans will thank you for your total arrogance towards them.

I have worked with many Americans and didn’t have a problem with most of them but, give some of them authority and they show just how dumb and arrogant they can be. They know very little about the world around them.
And hah! If it wasn't for America, there would be absolutely zero regard for International Law.

I seem to remember that it was Obama who declared that the US was the Worlds only exceptional and indispensable Nation? Meaning, the laws only apply to other nations, they demonstrate that arrogance almost daily. The US (and Israel) hold International Law in contempt
Oh wow. So you have lived in some of the Sunni Gulf States.

And Shia ...... and the Iranians are far and away a more civilised and educated race than ANY of the Arab races. Saudi is an oppressive dictatorship that hides behind its wealth. If the Saudi's are representative of the Sunni’s (although they are of course Wahabi ...... which follows the Daesh format!) and the Iranians represent Shia’s ...... then give me the Shia’s any day
Well if that is the case, then you shouldn't be spouting all the lies about their fanaticism.

The Saudi’s are fanatics ...... their society is totally oppressive and void of any tolerance of other religions or cultures. They are arrogant and as equally ignorant ..... they are also cowards!
I was wondering how long it will take you to post Russian propaganda and lies about the coalition A-10 strikes around Aleppo.

No that is called broadening your knowledge base! When you consider the arguments from both sides it is often quite easy to determine the degree of probability as to one side having more credibility than the other. If you disregard one side ..... then you only get half a story. :roll:
Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to see coalition A-10 strikes against Syrian and Hezbollah Forces. If I was US President, that is exactly what would be happening.

What about a countries right to defend itself? Would you cry when a Russian made missile or their highly advanced electronic capabilities, blew you Warthog out of the sky? So maybe a good thing you didn’t stand up for election as POTUSA? :lol: :lol:
What took you so long anyway?

I went to the doctors! Nothing terminal I am sure you will be pleased to know!
BTW, the SDF and the Saudis are goading the USA.

As Confusius says: "Wise man does not goad wild animal .... only fool does that, but when fool goads ........... should make sure victim is not holding ignition keys to get-away car!!! " :roll:

Ah-so! ...... or is that arsehole? :wink: :D
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:58 pm

Parts of this interview have been quoted in the MSM, obviously not in full so they are out of context. Read as the transcript of a whole interview a lot of what Assad says is just common sense.

President Bashar al-Assad Interview: “The Refugee Crisis is Caused by Terrorism and Western Policies”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/president-bashar-al-assad-interview-the-refugee-crisis-is-caused-by-terrorism-and-western-policies/5507529

I think Assad made some very good points. The interviewer for AFP News Agency is not named but I felt that some, in fact most, of the questions were heavily loaded in some cases vey accusatory, almost insulting. But Assad replied to them respectfully and showed he had a far better handle on what was going on than the interviewer.

Question 21: - The final sentence of Assad’s reply I would have questioned further:

He said ………. “We still have years before the next elections.”

That needs clarification. The obvious question would be why and yet the interviewer did not pick up on it and made no comment?

I would like to see Kerry face the same sort of loaded interview and see how he coped! I have seen Lavrof in interviews and he is very level headed and seems to have instant recall of facts and figures.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:10 pm

An interesting article .......... includes Syrian conflict but is broader based.

Are Americans Too Insouciant To Survive? - by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44196.htm

A must read ..... seriously! :shock: Embedded in the above article is this little gem from the Washington Post!(You must read the comments as well!)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-era-of-us-abdication-on-syria-must-end/2016/02/09/55226716-ce96-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

The argument from both sides! :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:00 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis
Oh boy you are in for it. What do you expect? That Assad will just go on and rule like nothing happened?

That will be for the Syrian people to decide as Putin keeps telling you!
We are expecting the violations to come thick and fast from Pootin/Assad. It will only harness public opinion further to our side.

It hasn’t even started yet and the rebels have already said they will not observe any ‘pause’ in hostilities. So situation normal then? Public opinion, look at the comments after any of your MSM reports/articles on Syria and the vast majority of them are pro-Putin!
No we haven't. All we have lost is 2 supply lines. We expect to resume Air Lifts within 6 days.

Aleppo is lost to the Islamic terrorists, many of whom are now switching sides ...... because they don’t wanna die ..... paradise or no-paradise! It is Assad/Russia that are dropping supplies to the besieged areas in Syria.
We very much still have Aleppo under our control.

Look out of the window! A few blocks maybe but not for much longer!
Don't worry, we will make sure they stay on the Saudi side of the border until Assad/Pootin violate the cessation first Then the Saudis will respond to the violations by forcibly taking control of the supply routes.

That would be an act of war and as you have pointed out previously, every nation has the right to self defence. Assad/Russia will let them advance a few K’s over the border and will then annihilate them.
Strong leadership in bombing civilians. I succumb to that. Obviously its a no contest.

Assad/Russia do not deliberately target civilians unlike the Islamic extremists. No doubt sometimes that will happen as it does when the coalition get the coordinates a bit off. But apart from the terrorists, I don’t think either the Russians or the US would deliberately kill civilians. CUI BONO ....... neither side! :roll:
Snap! The coalition has by no means begun air operations around Aleppo. If it did, then believe me, the Assad regime will feel it, and its progress will stall. With the A-10, it will lose all its Armour at least.

I thought you just pointed out that they had begun their Syrian air war in Aleppo? More bum information from your sources.
(ISIS a US creation)Bullshit! I will not even dignify your poor accusations
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Has not the continuous conflict in the Arab/Muslim countries for the last couple of decades, ALL instigated by US interests, not caused all the resentment in the ME, which in turn switches on the fanatics? Then the US arms and trains them! Just how dumb can you get ...... of course the US was the source of the Jihadists. It certainly wasn’t Putin ..... he put down the Chechen Islamic extremists before they got a strangle hold.
Assad is the real threat against peace and stability in Syria. He is the one that started this.

All he wants is what ALL Syrians want ..... their country taken back from the Islamic extremist proxy armies YOU created. The conflict was instigated by the US as it was every where else there is conflict ....... they do it to protect their National Security .... pity they don't go back to North America and do it from there!

The Islamist have minimal support which is why they and the US sing the same tune ‘Assad has to go!’ because if there IS a UN supervised election there is an odds on chance that Assad will win hands down. Now ..... you couldn’t possibly have that happen as it really would upset all the US’s plans for Syria!
Pootin is a global threat to peace and stability.

Putin is the only one ensuring peace and stability by reining in US Hegemony and colonial plans for the rest of the World!
No that is not how the SDF play. The SDF is not only Muslim. There are Christian factions within it. I can't remember the name of the rebel group.

That is the problem ..... the US coalition doesn’t know their ass from their elbow when it comes to deciding who is the good terrorist and who is the bad terrorist. They keep changing their names and allegiances. But Putin knows ...... ALL OF THEM ....... his response is to bomb the hell out of them and send them all to paradise!
They will fight the best way they can, using the resources they have available. Unfortunately, the rebels themselves are well protected. Pootin's bombings mostly kill innocent civilians, not rebels.

I think not! You have been taking the Syrian Observatory of Human Right figures verbatim. When will you understand that the SOHR includes as civilians, anyone who is not in the FSA and that is most of the rebels. The rebels ARE well protected as they skulk in the basements of civilian housing, hide in markets or other civilian areas, dress like the locals, hide among them or just scuttle away down their rat holes.

(The SAA captured a couple the other day dressed as women to avoid capture, but the locals pointed them out to the soldiers. When they unpacked their bags, guess what ....... they had many pairs of frilly panties ...... for their promised supply of virgins in Paradise.)
I am sure Americans will thank you for your total arrogance towards them.

I have worked with many Americans and didn’t have a problem with most of them but, give some of them authority and they show just how dumb and arrogant they can be. They know very little about the world around them.
And hah! If it wasn't for America, there would be absolutely zero regard for International Law.

I seem to remember that it was Obama who declared that the US was the Worlds only exceptional and indispensable Nation? Meaning, the laws only apply to other nations, they demonstrate that arrogance almost daily. The US (and Israel) hold International Law in contempt
Oh wow. So you have lived in some of the Sunni Gulf States.

And Shia ...... and the Iranians are far and away a more civilised and educated race than ANY of the Arab races. Saudi is an oppressive dictatorship that hides behind its wealth. If the Saudi's are representative of the Sunni’s (although they are of course Wahabi ...... which follows the Daesh format!) and the Iranians represent Shia’s ...... then give me the Shia’s any day
Well if that is the case, then you shouldn't be spouting all the lies about their fanaticism.

The Saudi’s are fanatics ...... their society is totally oppressive and void of any tolerance of other religions or cultures. They are arrogant and as equally ignorant ..... they are also cowards!
I was wondering how long it will take you to post Russian propaganda and lies about the coalition A-10 strikes around Aleppo.

No that is called broadening your knowledge base! When you consider the arguments from both sides it is often quite easy to determine the degree of probability as to one side having more credibility than the other. If you disregard one side ..... then you only get half a story. :roll:
Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to see coalition A-10 strikes against Syrian and Hezbollah Forces. If I was US President, that is exactly what would be happening.

What about a countries right to defend itself? Would you cry when a Russian made missile or their highly advanced electronic capabilities, blew you Warthog out of the sky? So maybe a good thing you didn’t stand up for election as POTUSA? :lol: :lol:
What took you so long anyway?

I went to the doctors! Nothing terminal I am sure you will be pleased to know!
BTW, the SDF and the Saudis are goading the USA.

As Confusius says: "Wise man does not goad wild animal .... only fool does that, but when fool goads ........... should make sure victim is not holding ignition keys to get-away car!!! " :roll:

Ah-so! ...... or is that arsehole? :wink: :D


Oh Dear RH, it looks like the wheels of the assad/Pootin menace are falling off.

Aleppo is still standing and Pootin has backed himself into the corner in Munich because he is getting slammed by the entire International Community and United Nations spokesperson. :D

Pootin is sticking to his guns, but in the meantime, Saudi Arabia is deploying troops and Fighter Bombers to Turkey to "commence a ground operation against ISIL".

Turkey is to participate too, but they better not attack our Coalition Ground Troops (Peshmerga, YPG, and YPJ). 8)
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:05 am

Robin Hood wrote:An interesting article .......... includes Syrian conflict but is broader based.

Are Americans Too Insouciant To Survive? - by Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44196.htm

A must read ..... seriously! :shock: Embedded in the above article is this little gem from the Washington Post!(You must read the comments as well!)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-era-of-us-abdication-on-syria-must-end/2016/02/09/55226716-ce96-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

The argument from both sides! :roll:


You're deluded if you believe that Assad and Pootin are going to achieve a Military Solution! Absolutely deluded.

How on earth you can expect them to rule as if nothing happened is astonishing. But that's ok because the chickens are well and truly coming home to roost.

Our troops will be in Syria within the next 10 days. The cessation will crumble in all likelihood, but if Pootin is smart he will do a 180 and sit at the table to discuss the transition in Syria and achieve a political solution. If not, then expect some major action involving troops from Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, UAE and maybe USA.

Where going in to fight terrorists like ISIL! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Especially those terrorists surrounding Aleppo! 8)

Time to start preparing that humble pie RH! :wink:
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