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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:23 pm

zan wrote:http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2014/05/christians-israel-face-rise-hate-crimes-2014521233350848170.html


OK Zan,

the facts are that fundamentalist Jews express intolerance towards the Israeli State and Israeli Security Forces so it's not just a little intolerance to other Christians.

They consider the Israeli State to be bogus because according to their belief, the Messiah will form the Jewish State, and this State of Israel was not divinely created so therefore must be formed by Satan himself. Yes I kid you not!

Wife had the pleasure to be a guest of Israel as a Foreign Press contingent invited by the Israeli Press Council. It was an eye opener.

But still, at least for now, they are not bombing Churches or killing Israeli Security Forces.
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:29 pm

zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:Did you watch any of my posts Paphitis?


No Zan but I will.

Btw, I was not talking about you. I respect your opinion as at least you try to stay balanced about it and have some intelligent things to say.



Thanks mate. It's much appreciated but please please please try to do the same. No more shooting from the hip :wink: this is not about personal fights........it seems some on here will do anything to win an argument then contradict themselves on another thread.

I was about to announce my departure from this forum. I dread to think what people reading this are thinking. I am guilty of winding a few people up but I will stick by the principle but not acting childish... Which I have done.


Nothing personal this end Zan.

the fact is , there is a global terrorist issue, and that some Western Countries like the UK must take some precautions. It has been hit in the past and probably will be hit again, even though the intelligence communities in Western Countries seem to be 2 steps in front of any would be terrorist for the time being. It will not always be the case, and somewhere along the line, something will slip through the net, and innocent people just going about their daily routines will be killed. So far, dozens of attempts have been foiled in North America, Europe and Australia (4 attempts since 2009).

In all likelihood, such an attack will come from some kind of Islamic Terrorist Group such as Al Qaeda. They are not the only Militant Islamic Group. There are literally dozens of other offshoots and unrelated groups just waiting for their chance.
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby zan » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:Did you watch any of my posts Paphitis?


No Zan but I will.

Btw, I was not talking about you. I respect your opinion as at least you try to stay balanced about it and have some intelligent things to say.



Thanks mate. It's much appreciated but please please please try to do the same. No more shooting from the hip :wink: this is not about personal fights........it seems some on here will do anything to win an argument then contradict themselves on another thread.

I was about to announce my departure from this forum. I dread to think what people reading this are thinking. I am guilty of winding a few people up but I will stick by the principle but not acting childish... Which I have done.


Nothing personal this end Zan.

the fact is , there is a global terrorist issue, and that some Western Countries like the UK must take some precautions. It has been hit in the past and probably will be hit again, even though the intelligence communities in Western Countries seem to be 2 steps in front of any would be terrorist for the time being. It will not always be the case, and somewhere along the line, something will slip through the net, and innocent people just going about their daily routines will be killed. So far, dozens of attempts have been foiled in North America, Europe and Australia (4 attempts since 2009).

In all likelihood, such an attack will come from some kind of Islamic Terrorist Group such as Al Qaeda. They are not the only Militant Islamic Group. There are literally dozens of other offshoots and unrelated groups just waiting for their chance.



If it were you and you didn't have drones and long range missiles and you thought you were being wronged....what would you do.......again.... NOT JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE OF ANY SORT.
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:45 pm

zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:Did you watch any of my posts Paphitis?


No Zan but I will.

Btw, I was not talking about you. I respect your opinion as at least you try to stay balanced about it and have some intelligent things to say.



Thanks mate. It's much appreciated but please please please try to do the same. No more shooting from the hip :wink: this is not about personal fights........it seems some on here will do anything to win an argument then contradict themselves on another thread.

I was about to announce my departure from this forum. I dread to think what people reading this are thinking. I am guilty of winding a few people up but I will stick by the principle but not acting childish... Which I have done.


Nothing personal this end Zan.

the fact is , there is a global terrorist issue, and that some Western Countries like the UK must take some precautions. It has been hit in the past and probably will be hit again, even though the intelligence communities in Western Countries seem to be 2 steps in front of any would be terrorist for the time being. It will not always be the case, and somewhere along the line, something will slip through the net, and innocent people just going about their daily routines will be killed. So far, dozens of attempts have been foiled in North America, Europe and Australia (4 attempts since 2009).

In all likelihood, such an attack will come from some kind of Islamic Terrorist Group such as Al Qaeda. They are not the only Militant Islamic Group. There are literally dozens of other offshoots and unrelated groups just waiting for their chance.



If it were you and you didn't have drones and long range missiles and you thought you were being wronged....what would you do.......again.... NOT JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE OF ANY SORT.


If it were me Zan, and I was wronged by a more powerful country like the US, then I would join millions of law abiding Muslims and get politically active, and I would try and oppose the militants (if possible) because they are only making things 10 times worse for all concerned.

I certainly could not contemplate killing innocent people. I believe most Muslims have this frame of mind as well.
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby zan » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:54 pm

Ok! Shame that three extremists in the streets make you ignore the millions sat at home. I don't mean to be dramatic but you have just lost a friend with that statement. Have you run that past BK and got his response?
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:33 pm

"If it were you and you didn't have drones and long range missiles and you thought you were being wronged....what would you do.......again.... NOT JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE OF ANY SORT."

Most certainly I would not blow my self up on a bus, a train, a market, a funeral procession or indeed anywhere where I would kill and maim innocent by standers.
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby zan » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:44 pm

miltiades wrote:"If it were you and you didn't have drones and long range missiles and you thought you were being wronged....what would you do.......again.... NOT JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE OF ANY SORT."

Most certainly I would not blow my self up on a bus, a train, a market, a funeral procession or indeed anywhere where I would kill and maim innocent by standers.



It has been quite obvious that you cannot understand what frustration and hopelessness can do to bring someone to that point. BUT .......then it does not stop you "understanding" the reasons to kill British soldiers in the name of independence. Again full of contradictions. Why didn't your EOKA chums form a political group and protest? If you see the IRA now in politics, as Christian on Christian, after decades of violence maybe you think this is the only way to get your voice heard.
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:32 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:"If it were you and you didn't have drones and long range missiles and you thought you were being wronged....what would you do.......again.... NOT JUSTIFYING VIOLENCE OF ANY SORT."

Most certainly I would not blow my self up on a bus, a train, a market, a funeral procession or indeed anywhere where I would kill and maim innocent by standers.



It has been quite obvious that you cannot understand what frustration and hopelessness can do to bring someone to that point. BUT .......then it does not stop you "understanding" the reasons to kill British soldiers in the name of independence. Again full of contradictions. Why didn't your EOKA chums form a political group and protest? If you see the IRA now in politics, as Christian on Christian, after decades of violence maybe you think this is the only way to get your voice heard.[/quot
You are full of shit, now clear off and go join the jihadists you stupid, moronic , chip on shoulder PLONKER !
By the way, see if you can take the other idiot with you, what a pair of stupid PLONKERS !
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby Cap » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:35 pm

Breaking news:
Hamas killed them missing Jew kids.
what should Israel do?
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Re: Islam is a religion of peace.

Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:42 pm

I hereby invite the forums most stupid Plonkers to ...justify this barbaric practice:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 46585.html
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