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[Mustiejodu]

I rarely agree with nikitos but I have to agree with her that this huge operation has practical problems that I believe may have been overlooked and obstacles are evidently showing. It reminds me a bit like when the Olympic park costed far more than they predicted and also overlooked the outcome of the constructed buildings. This is the problem when politics get involved with major projects as the politicians of the day want to make full benefit of overblown projects. A bit like boris buying 2 water cannons at the time to gain political ground but in practical terms they are not allowed to be used in the uk

[Lordo]

Lordo,

Elementary physics says water runs downhill, finds its own level, etc. The "pumping" is in statements by Turkish officials, and that is what is confusing.

This is a novel project in terms of distance covered, the method used (suspended pipeline) and the materials chosen (plastic pipes with special connectors).

I am still trying to figure out if such a complicated and expensive project solves or masks a problem and if it is better than locally owned and operated desal plants. Both the pipeline and the desal (reverse osmosis) plants are technical fixes. The first is untested the latter fully tested technology open to ongoing improvements at relatively low cost. It is these considerations that make this project intriguing.

pound for pound desal is more expensive than pipe water. desal has all the nutriants removed. compared to spring water there no contest. coupled with the fact that terggy has already paid for the pipeline and says they will not charge for water. even if they do start charging for water at some future daye, so what we have the choice to buy it or not buy it. considering we have not spent anything for it so far it is a win win, i cannot see how you see any negatives in this situation.

suggesting that we can use desal water to water plants would be laughable if you were bot such a serious person. it would be the same as me suggesting to you to buy a flat in downtown south lefkosha and put soil in it instead of tiles and grow tomatoes in it. it just does not make sense.

certainly increase the effort to collect water in the north but where is the investment going to come from with embargoes in place. you boys really do not fully understand the scenario in the north. you can only judge it by the way you live and of course that is based on stolen tc land property and government rights. if only we had the same.

[Nikitas]

Agriculture is the biggest water consumer, that is a known fact the world over. Desal water is used in Israel as a supplementary source, and their agriculture is no less competitive because of that.

Industry and tourism are also big consumers. The solution though is not to throw more water at the problem simply because it is cheap now. The challenge is to find ways to economise without lowering standards.

To give an example, in the old days machining coolants were sprayed on the work and then went down the drain. Now the coolant goes to a sump, is filtered and recirculated. I have seen Italian factories where the system not only saves water, but keeps the factory super clean since no liquids spray all over as in the old system.

I am curiouis about this pipeline. Not only the initial construction but also the long term use and maintenance. If one section needs replacing how will they do it? Reach down to 250 meters, purge the water, seal the ends, sink in a new section and replace the special joints. These engineering challenges are the ones I think of when comparing it to a desal plant. Why was the large diameter pipe chosen instead of several more flexible smaller pipes with less demanding jointing.

We will learn soon how all these things play out.

[Lordo]

Agriculture is the biggest water consumer, that is a known fact the world over. Desal water is used in Israel as a supplementary source, and their agriculture is no less competitive because of that.

Industry and tourism are also big consumers. The solution though is not to throw more water at the problem simply because it is cheap now. The challenge is to find ways to economise without lowering standards.

To give an example, in the old days machining coolants were sprayed on the work and then went down the drain. Now the coolant goes to a sump, is filtered and recirculated. I have seen Italian factories where the system not only saves water, but keeps the factory super clean since no liquids spray all over as in the old system.

I am curiouis about this pipeline. Not only the initial construction but also the long term use and maintenance. If one section needs replacing how will they do it? Reach down to 250 meters, purge the water, seal the ends, sink in a new section and replace the special joints. These engineering challenges are the ones I think of when comparing it to a desal plant. Why was the large diameter pipe chosen instead of several more flexible smaller pipes with less demanding jointing.

We will learn soon how all these things play out.

absolute nonsense. they steal arab water mainly to use in agriculture. i wonder though if terggy built a pipe line for them, what would their reaction be.

i have a solution for their maintenance problems so do not worry about it. its my job to fix pipes that leak or need replacement without digging.

[Nikitas]

You know how to fix 85 kilometer long pipelines?

[Lordo]

not all the furquin 85 km will need fixing at the same time nikitas. what are you planning to blow it up?
naturally it will be a bit at a time. small holes as it were, like normal pipelines.

[repulsewarrior]

...need i remind you the Euphrates, if it flows is but a trickle, the water is not "free".

[Lordo]

...need i remind you the Euphrates, if it flows is but a trickle, the water is not "free".

they build dams and collect the water. the collected water is then distributed to farms around in the area. i am afraid the tergs have the right to control the water in their own land. i realise it is not gentleman like but hey they have oil and they can easily exchange.

[repulsewarrior]

..you are funny Lordo 2.5. Lordo would not say that, he is more human than "Turk".

[Lordo]

..you are funny Lordo 2.5. Lordo would not say that, he is more human than "Turk".

it stands to reason. they have oil. they can afford to buy water. they are not sharing the oil with their neighbours why should their neighbours share their water. why 2.5. i though that was a 10.