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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:23 pm

Bill proves my point perfectly, can you supply a link where there is a claim that the pipes will be manufactured in Turkey because I have read differently?
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Bill proves my point perfectly, can you supply a link where there is a claim that the pipes will be manufactured in Turkey because I have read differently?


Look on the Firat web-site, part of a page there is already posted above. Google Firat Turkey for home page.
... oh and look under the Tab marked ..."Success Stories" there.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:04 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Bill proves my point perfectly, can you supply a link where there is a claim that the pipes will be manufactured in Turkey because I have read differently?


Look on the Firat web-site, part of a page there is already posted above. Google Firat Turkey for home page.
... oh and look under the Tab marked ..."Success Stories" there.



There was a big debate in Turkey last year that the pipes were to be imported from China due to special requirements but the association for pipe manufacturers opposed such a move by the government saying that they could also produce the pipes necesary for the project. See that a ship arrived form China carry the materials necessary to build the pipeline leads me to believe the government has purchased from abroad. Firat can claim all they like this does not bind the government of Turkey who is at the head of the project, maybe that was the original agreement but when Firat could deliver they moved to a supplier form China. It only goes to show that the pipeline is being built and that 2014/2015 together with the Gas find in the south will bring a new dynamic to the Cyprus problem. As I have always said its the big players that count and that does not include us or the south, if they want to upgrade the north they will and the GCs will be able to do nothing about it.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:23 pm

Viewpoint wrote: It only goes to show that the pipeline is being built and that 2014/2015 together with the Gas find in the south will bring a new dynamic to the Cyprus problem.


Buying some pipes doesn't mean a thing. Turkey could be building a nuclear weapons manufacturing plant and needs a patsy.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:31 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Bill proves my point perfectly, can you supply a link where there is a claim that the pipes will be manufactured in Turkey because I have read differently?


Look on the Firat web-site, part of a page there is already posted above. Google Firat Turkey for home page.
... oh and look under the Tab marked ..."Success Stories" there.



There was a big debate in Turkey last year that the pipes were to be imported from China due to special requirements but the association for pipe manufacturers opposed such a move by the government saying that they could also produce the pipes necesary for the project. See that a ship arrived form China carry the materials necessary to build the pipeline leads me to believe the government has purchased from abroad. Firat can claim all they like this does not bind the government of Turkey who is at the head of the project, maybe that was the original agreement but when Firat could deliver they moved to a supplier form China. It only goes to show that the pipeline is being built and that 2014/2015 together with the Gas find in the south will bring a new dynamic to the Cyprus problem. As I have always said its the big players that count and that does not include us or the south, if they want to upgrade the north they will and the GCs will be able to do nothing about it.


Yes, heard the arguments about importing or not importing from China. Wherever they are sourced they're only of use for land transport of water.

... as is the case with the pipes on the beach in Mersin which again aren't suitable for the cross-sea passage as is the cargo on the ship that is being unloaded at the port in Occupied Famagusta.

If you want to lay a cross-sea pipeline you need a factory on the shore at Mersin, not pipes on a ship in Occupied Famagusta.

... or you hire this...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitaire_(ship)
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:34 pm

Hold on a minute, remind me why are you people so concerned and what it has to do with you exactly?
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:51 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Hold on a minute, remind me why are you people so concerned and what it has to do with you exactly?


Sorry, but can you put the other VP back on please, the one we were speaking to this morning... :roll:
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby B25 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Hold on a minute, remind me why are you people so concerned and what it has to do with you exactly?


Because Turkey is an invader occupier who has no right to build, operate or otherwise on RoC sovereign territory. No planning permission has been sought from the RoC, No agreement to use sovereign water ways. It is totally illegal and without the permission of the RoC.
You and turkey are destroying the environment, in a false attempt to upgrade the pseudo state, it won't last. When the time comes we will happily dismantle these monstrosities.
Just because you have turkeys military might behind you, you think you can do as you wish, yeah temporarily, until the time comes for us to evict you. These actions by the barbarian state known as Turkey is the very reason no sane person wants you criminals to join the EU. You have proven yourselves yet again as savages. Hade assirktir.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:24 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hold on a minute, remind me why are you people so concerned and what it has to do with you exactly?


Because Turkey is an invader occupier who has no right to build, operate or otherwise on RoC sovereign territory. No planning permission has been sought from the RoC, No agreement to use sovereign water ways. It is totally illegal and without the permission of the RoC.
You and turkey are destroying the environment, in a false attempt to upgrade the pseudo state, it won't last. When the time comes we will happily dismantle these monstrosities.
Just because you have turkeys military might behind you, you think you can do as you wish, yeah temporarily, until the time comes for us to evict you. These actions by the barbarian state known as Turkey is the very reason no sane person wants you criminals to join the EU. You have proven yourselves yet again as savages. Hade assirktir.


Go to the "legal" authorities and complain as much as you wish.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:24 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Hold on a minute, remind me why are you people so concerned and what it has to do with you exactly?


Sorry, but can you put the other VP back on please, the one we were speaking to this morning... :roll:


And your answer is? shouldnt you be more concerned with your own country?
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