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[supporttheunderdog]

Cyprus criticised over treatment of asylum seekers | World news | The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/06/cyprus-criticised-treatment-asylum-seekers

Paraskevas said that, even when cases did go to the supreme court, the judges' decisions were sometimes ignored. "On 18 January 2011, I won a case in the supreme court and the judge ordered the immediate release of my client. They did not release him. I was shocked. I couldn't believe it."

He went to the judge in chambers who said there was nothing he could do. Paraskevas then wrote to the ministry of the interior, informed the press and finally, the following March, staged a demonstration, all to no avail. It was only after a radio journalist invited him to talk about the case that his client was released, four months after the original court order.

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Cyprus criticised over treatment of asylum seekers | World news | The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/06/cyprus-criticised-treatment-asylum-seekers

Paraskevas said that, even when cases did go to the supreme court, the judges' decisions were sometimes ignored. "On 18 January 2011, I won a case in the supreme court and the judge ordered the immediate release of my client. They did not release him. I was shocked. I couldn't believe it."

He went to the judge in chambers who said there was nothing he could do. Paraskevas then wrote to the ministry of the interior, informed the press and finally, the following March, staged a demonstration, all to no avail. It was only after a radio journalist invited him to talk about the case that his client was released, four months after the original court order.

I know it is a fine line, but would you rather have Abu Hamza walking our streets?

[Oceanside50]

the bottom line is delayed justice is no justice.....if the government feels free to violate this rule for justice against migrants, then what will keep the government from doing it to its own citizens?

[cyprusgrump]

the bottom line is delayed justice is no justice.....if the government feels free to violate this rule for justice against migrants, then what will keep the government from doing it to its own citizens?

Perfectly put!

[GreekIslandGirl]

the bottom line is delayed justice is no justice.....if the government feels free to violate this rule for justice against migrants, then what will keep the government from doing it to its own citizens?

They were not migrants. They were illegals. And the police didn't violate any rules as the illegals could have got short term orders to stop the deportation but didn't. This is more of stupid's anti-Cypriot propaganda spreading.

This is what migrants have to do ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/fe ... NTCMP=SRCH

To obtain permanent residence in Cyprus, investors from outside the EU have to spend at least €300,000 (£260,000) on a property. They must also prove that they have no criminal record and are in good financial standing and agree to deposit €30,000 for a minimum of three years in a local bank account. Their permit normally arrives in about 45 days.

Is it a coincidence both articles appeared on the same day in the same paper? One enviously eyeing how well Cyprus is perceived by investors and the other trying to criticize Cyprus out of all proportion. And is it purely by chance the propagandist chose one (bad stuff) over the other (better stuff) to spread?

[Oceanside50]

Cyprus criticised over treatment of asylum seekers | World news | The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/06/cyprus-criticised-treatment-asylum-seekers

Paraskevas said that, even when cases did go to the supreme court, the judges' decisions were sometimes ignored. "On 18 January 2011, I won a case in the supreme court and the judge ordered the immediate release of my client. They did not release him. I was shocked. I couldn't believe it."

He went to the judge in chambers who said there was nothing he could do. Paraskevas then wrote to the ministry of the interior, informed the press and finally, the following March, staged a demonstration, all to no avail. It was only after a radio journalist invited him to talk about the case that his client was released, four months after the original court order.

Shame on you GreekIslandGirl, you are an advocate of justice for Cyprus but when it comes to illegals and their justice, you refuse to grant them their due process even though Amnesty International gave a directive to Cyprus and its treatment of illegals

Similar dramas have taken place in other countries after asylum seekers have had their applications rejected. But what made Mohamed's case remarkable was that it was still pending before the Cyprus supreme court.

The deportation of asylum seekers whose cases are unresolved is one of several complaints made by Amnesty International in a report on Cyprus's treatment of irregular immigrants published last year. The organisation also accused the Greek Cypriot authorities of using detention unnecessarily and of keeping detainees in substandard conditions.

Even after the Cyprus Supreme Court ordered the man's immediate release...

[cyprusgrump]

the bottom line is delayed justice is no justice.....if the government feels free to violate this rule for justice against migrants, then what will keep the government from doing it to its own citizens?

They were not migrants. They were illegals. And the police didn't violate any rules as the illegals could have got short term orders to stop the deportation but didn't. This is more of stupid's anti-Cypriot propaganda spreading.

This is what migrants have to do ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/fe ... NTCMP=SRCH

To obtain permanent residence in Cyprus, investors from outside the EU have to spend at least €300,000 (£260,000) on a property. They must also prove that they have no criminal record and are in good financial standing and agree to deposit €30,000 for a minimum of three years in a local bank account. Their permit normally arrives in about 45 days.

Is it a coincidence both articles appeared on the same day in the same paper? One enviously eyeing how well Cyprus is perceived by investors and the other trying to criticize Cyprus out of all proportion. And is it purely by chance the propagandist chose one (bad stuff) over the other (better stuff) to spread?

I just knew you would be along with a ridiculous 'them against us' conspiracy angle...

Justice is justice - pure and simple.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Shame on you GreekIslandGirl, you are an advocate of justice for Cyprus but when it comes to illegals and their justice, you refuse to grant them their due process even though Amnesty International gave a directive to Cyprus and its treatment of illegals

Similar dramas have taken place in other countries after asylum seekers have had their applications rejected. But what made Mohamed's case remarkable was that it was still pending before the Cyprus supreme court.

The deportation of asylum seekers whose cases are unresolved is one of several complaints made by Amnesty International in a report on Cyprus's treatment of irregular immigrants published last year. The organisation also accused the Greek Cypriot authorities of using detention unnecessarily and of keeping detainees in substandard conditions.

Even after the Cyprus Supreme Court ordered the man's immediate release...

Make your mind up. Either they want to be immediately released (presumably to go back to their own countries) or they want to be detained.

Besides, I pointed out your misuse of the term "migrants" - you defamed Cyprus for its treatment of migrants. Wholly defamatory! I supported it with the other article which shows the legal process for migrants. I also pointed out that these illegal immigrants had the right to get short-term orders against deportation but didn't seem to bother ...

"Only if they can get a provisional order forbidding the deportation does [the asylum seeker] have the right to remain in Cyprus," Ashiotis said.

[supporttheunderdog]

This is not about illegal immigration but my particular concern (which why I highlighted that particular part of the article) was that according to the lawyer the State authorities were apparently refusing to promptly obey the orders of the Supreme Court to release people where it must be of general concern that we consequently have an autocratic system where individuals are evidently at risk of arbitrary treatement by the authorities and cannot get the protection of the courts.

(I don't actually hold with illegal imigration, in particular economic migrants who when caught try to abuse the process and use Asylum as a late excuse but even illegal immigrants have rights)

[Oceanside50]

Shame on you GreekIslandGirl, you are an advocate of justice for Cyprus but when it comes to illegals and their justice, you refuse to grant them their due process even though Amnesty International gave a directive to Cyprus and its treatment of illegals

Similar dramas have taken place in other countries after asylum seekers have had their applications rejected. But what made Mohamed's case remarkable was that it was still pending before the Cyprus supreme court.

The deportation of asylum seekers whose cases are unresolved is one of several complaints made by Amnesty International in a report on Cyprus's treatment of irregular immigrants published last year. The organisation also accused the Greek Cypriot authorities of using detention unnecessarily and of keeping detainees in substandard conditions.

Even after the Cyprus Supreme Court ordered the man's immediate release...

Make your mind up. Either they want to be immediately released (presumably to go back to their own countries) or they want to be detained.




Besides, I pointed out your misuse of the term "migrants" - you defamed Cyprus for its treatment of migrants. Wholly defamatory! I supported it with the other article which shows the legal process for migrants. I also pointed out that these illegal immigrants had the right to get short-term orders against deportation but didn't seem to bother ...

"Only if they can get a provisional order forbidding the deportation does [the asylum seeker] have the right to remain in Cyprus," Ashiotis said.

Defamatory to Cyprus are the ones that deny people their rights on Cyprus, whether they are illegal, migrants, Greek cyps or Turk cyps...The Cyprus Supreme Court ordered the man to be released the Cyprus police ignored the judgement...(illegal)...Amnesty International, the organization that continuously place/s judgement on Turkey to release journalist and others from prison, gave a directive to Cyprus to not deport the man while his hearings were still active....you got it?