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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:44 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...oh goody, a President who will take the interests of Cyprus first. he will not be sullied with the effort of defending "Greeks" as the Leader of the Republic because the other side of the table is no more than "Turks".

Thats some hand of friendship. i suppose he will appoint a diko minister for the talks. thats another 5 years gone. by then we shall have over a zillion in the north.

good luck boys.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Cinyras » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:45 am

Lordo wrote:Thats some hand of friendship. i suppose he will appoint a diko minister for the talks.


Remind me of the idiot who the Turkish settlers elected to be your 'leader'?

Now tell me why you think the President of Cyprus should waste any time dealing with the sock-puppet Eroglu?
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Demonax » Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:01 am

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But the TCs don't want "equal human rights". Hasn't that been the problem all along? Their expectations are for MORE - much more than mere "equality".

Still, the olive branch has been extended, once again. A least, it will demonstrate to the EU what we are up against ...


True. That is why they've ended up with no rights and are treated with contempt by the Turkish settlers who regard them as irreligious and not sufficiently 'Turkish'.

And yes, Anastasiades will be quite difficult for Turkey to handle. He will make the right overtures, he will talk about EU rights and multiculturalism (exactly what the EU wants to hear) but will come up against Turkish obstinacy leaving Turkey with nowhere to hide and no-one left to blame. After all, if Turkey and the TCs cannot support a solution based on EU principles then they don't deserve to be in the EU!
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:09 am

Cinyras wrote:
Lordo wrote:Thats some hand of friendship. i suppose he will appoint a diko minister for the talks.


Remind me of the idiot who the Turkish settlers elected to be your 'leader'?

Now tell me why you think the President of Cyprus should waste any time dealing with the sock-puppet Eroglu?


Cause no one else that counts will listen to him.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:14 am

Demonax wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
But the TCs don't want "equal human rights". Hasn't that been the problem all along? Their expectations are for MORE - much more than mere "equality".

Still, the olive branch has been extended, once again. A least, it will demonstrate to the EU what we are up against ...


True. That is why they've ended up with no rights and are treated with contempt by the Turkish settlers who regard them as irreligious and not sufficiently 'Turkish'.

And yes, Anastasiades will be quite difficult for Turkey to handle. He will make the right overtures, he will talk about EU rights and multiculturalism (exactly what the EU wants to hear) but will come up against Turkish obstinacy leaving Turkey with nowhere to hide and no-one left to blame. After all, if Turkey and the TCs cannot support a solution based on EU principles then they don't deserve to be in the EU!


We will see if this GC leader can out fox Turkey, very unlikely but its gonna be fun watching what he does to jump start talks, If he can even get a deal together I will be the first to applaud him..I get the feeling he all show and no stubstance only time will tell.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:22 am

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Well the man and CY have other priorities.

A truism >>> For the first time in decades CyProb isn't at the top of the Presidential list.

Hear that he won't be figure-heading the Republic at the talks, preferring to appoint a senior Minister to take his place...???



You heard correctly Bill. That was an old standing issue. According to the constitution the President is the President of both communities. According to the constitution again, the President cannot represent the GC side in negotiations for problems with TCs. Instead someone else from the GC community should do that.I am sure the TC side will also appoint someone else instead of Eroglu.This is the messy constitution the British gave us....
Yes he will appoint someone... we will see.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:42 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Well the man and CY have other priorities.

A truism >>> For the first time in decades CyProb isn't at the top of the Presidential list.

Hear that he won't be figure-heading the Republic at the talks, preferring to appoint a senior Minister to take his place...???



You heard correctly Bill. That was an old standing issue. According to the constitution the President is the President of both communities. According to the constitution again, the President cannot represent the GC side in negotiations for problems with TCs. Instead someone else from the GC community should do that.I am sure the TC side will also appoint someone else instead of Eroglu.This is the messy constitution the British gave us....
Yes he will appoint someone... we will see.


For us and Turkey it makes no difference we only see him as the leader of the GCs, if thats the case then why did Christofias attend the negotiaitons?
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:09 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Well the man and CY have other priorities.

A truism >>> For the first time in decades CyProb isn't at the top of the Presidential list.

Hear that he won't be figure-heading the Republic at the talks, preferring to appoint a senior Minister to take his place...???



You heard correctly Bill. That was an old standing issue. According to the constitution the President is the President of both communities. According to the constitution again, the President cannot represent the GC side in negotiations for problems with TCs. Instead someone else from the GC community should do that.I am sure the TC side will also appoint someone else instead of Eroglu.This is the messy constitution the British gave us....
Yes he will appoint someone... we will see.


For us and Turkey it makes no difference we only see him as the leader of the GCs, if thats the case then why did Christofias attend the negotiaitons?

so who says we dont go around in circles. was this not the same reason gibrianu would not sit at the same table. back to square one. we have 5 more years before we reach 2 million.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:29 pm

Not that old chestnut, the GCs never learn.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:36 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Well the man and CY have other priorities.

A truism >>> For the first time in decades CyProb isn't at the top of the Presidential list.

Hear that he won't be figure-heading the Republic at the talks, preferring to appoint a senior Minister to take his place...???



You heard correctly Bill. That was an old standing issue. According to the constitution the President is the President of both communities. According to the constitution again, the President cannot represent the GC side in negotiations for problems with TCs. Instead someone else from the GC community should do that.I am sure the TC side will also appoint someone else instead of Eroglu.This is the messy constitution the British gave us....
Yes he will appoint someone... we will see.


Also hear that Eroglu is falling even more out of favour with the Turkish Governor of the Occupied Areas who will be appointing someone else to head the negotiations when they resume.

... and others are ganging up to oust Eroglu. The press of the occupied reported yesterday that the nice Mr Talat spoke against Eroglu's intransigence and the present arrangement as the solution and Talat said that the CYs of the Occupied Areas need a solution more than ever.

Another political leader up there compared the likelihood of Eroglu reaching a settlement as being as likely as "getting tears from a dead man's eyes" .

Then of course there is the years old rivalry between Eroglu and Kooshit which has got to new depths in recent weeks.

Wonder how long Eroglu and the intransigent position at the talks will last...???
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