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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Anippe » Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:46 pm

The president is a clever man. Not like the communist one. I lived in Cyprus in the fifties to the 78. We have last chance. In 20 years it cannot be changed to many turkish will live in Cyprus. Like Jews in palestine
slowly the number build up. The EU do nothing, Greece is useless - forget films 200 v 1000000 its fantasia. We must find solution or kiss goodbye to our homes and land
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:37 am

Welcome to the forum Anip, what will your leader do that will be so different form the other egg heads?
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Kikapu » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm

Looks like Anastasiades is not going to be the much awaited "Knight on a White Horse" to come and save Turkey, VP and Lordo to re-introduce the failed AP of 2004 as a starting point. :shock: :D

Is there anyone else left who still supports the much "Dead and Buried"[ AP of 2004? :lol:

Well, actually there are. Turkey, VP and Lordo! :lol:


“We want a solution that will reunite our island, without backwardness or concessions. I will never accept a definitive division of my nation and I will always strive for a solution that will guarantee the human rights of every Cypriot,” he said, adding that any solution initiative should be directly monitored by the European Union.

Anastasiades, who was the main South Cypriot political leader to support the UN-led imitative for the reunification of the island in 2004, said it was not beneficial anymore to talk about the so-called “Annan plan” and that a new process needed to be initiated.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/greek- ... sCatID=351
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:51 pm

Kikapu wrote:Looks like Anastasiades is not going to be the much awaited "Knight on a White Horse" to come and save Turkey, VP and Lordo to re-introduce the failed AP of 2004 as a starting point. :shock: :D

Is there anyone else left who still supports the much "Dead and Buried"[ AP of 2004? :lol:

Well, actually there are. Turkey, VP and Lordo! :lol:


“We want a solution that will reunite our island, without backwardness or concessions. I will never accept a definitive division of my nation and I will always strive for a solution that will guarantee the human rights of every Cypriot,” he said, adding that any solution initiative should be directly monitored by the European Union.

Anastasiades, who was the main South Cypriot political leader to support the UN-led imitative for the reunification of the island in 2004, said it was not beneficial anymore to talk about the so-called “Annan plan” and that a new process needed to be initiated.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/greek- ... sCatID=351


Does this car salesman know the EU were fully included in the AP process just as the UN reps were? and does he think that the UN will wipe the AP slate clean and start from scratch...very naive and very very stupid.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:00 pm

...there are many plans, 'off the table', it is naive to think that Annan 5 is the only one that exists, and that talks will continue with this proposal as the only starting point for further negotiations.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:06 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...there are many plans, 'off the table', it is naive to think that Annan 5 is the only one and that exists, and that talks will continue with this proposal as the only starting point for further negotiations.


Its also stupidity to think that all the man hours and effort put into building a solution to which one side agreed only to be erased and to start from zero, the foundations have been laid all you can do is ask for adjustments that will turn the GCs no into a Yes and keep the TCs Yes. Who will ask for a plan from scratch and what happens if you reject it once again?
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:50 pm

...new thnking is required. it is time for Statesmanship on a higher level. what "Greeks" and "Turks" want is not the issue. it is an issue of Right, Universal Principals, and their application toward better defining the words, "Individual" and "Person", with the aim of defining more clearly the words, "Nation" and "State". a lot will be decided with an end to the Problem, the problems don't end with the island torn in two as it is today. in my mind, the Annan Plan represents the culmination of fifty years of Turkish Foreign Policy, that failed. your regime has no equal because it has no counterpart, it suits Turkey toward her aims. you remain a traitor to Cyprus, and Turkish Cypriots who want Freedom, and Liberty, as such, because you deny and dismiss the failings and corruption of the present state. if there was a Greek Constituency a voice is created for those who are against the occupation, it allows Cyprus, as a State, to represent itself as an equal, instead of a Nation when in negotiations with the Turkish State.

...as Annan said, it was only a proposal. do you think he started with nothing?
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:01 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...new thnking is required. it is time for Statesmanship on a higher level. what "Greeks" and "Turks" want is not the issue. it is an issue of Right, Universal Principals, and their application toward better defining the words, "Individual" and "Person", with the aim of defining more clearly the words, "Nation" and "State". a lot will be decided with an end to the Problem, the problems don't end with the island torn in two as it is today. in my mind, the Annan Plan represents the culmination of fifty years of Turkish Foreign Policy, that failed. your regime has no equal because it has no counterpart, it suits Turkey toward her aims. you remain a traitor to Cyprus, and Turkish Cypriots who want Freedom, and Liberty, as such, because you deny and dismiss the failings and corruption of the present state. if there was a Greek Constituency a voice is created for those who are against the occupation, it allows Cyprus, as a State, to represent itself as an equal, instead of a Nation when in negotiations with the Turkish State.

...as Annan said, it was only a proposal. do you think he started with nothing?


The TRNC is a far better option than what you offer, please try and work out what I have just said.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Lordo » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:20 pm

Kikapu wrote:Looks like Anastasiades is not going to be the much awaited "Knight on a White Horse" to come and save Turkey, VP and Lordo to re-introduce the failed AP of 2004 as a starting point. :shock: :D

Is there anyone else left who still supports the much "Dead and Buried"[ AP of 2004? :lol:

Well, actually there are. Turkey, VP and Lordo! :lol:


“We want a solution that will reunite our island, without backwardness or concessions. I will never accept a definitive division of my nation and I will always strive for a solution that will guarantee the human rights of every Cypriot,” he said, adding that any solution initiative should be directly monitored by the European Union.

Anastasiades, who was the main South Cypriot political leader to support the UN-led imitative for the reunification of the island in 2004, said it was not beneficial anymore to talk about the so-called “Annan plan” and that a new process needed to be initiated.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/greek- ... sCatID=351

you really have very little understanding of the cyprus problem. lets see if he utters a single word about abandoning bbf.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Kikapu » Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:14 am

Lordo wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Looks like Anastasiades is not going to be the much awaited "Knight on a White Horse" to come and save Turkey, VP and Lordo to re-introduce the failed AP of 2004 as a starting point. :shock: :D

Is there anyone else left who still supports the much "Dead and Buried"[ AP of 2004? :lol:

Well, actually there are. Turkey, VP and Lordo! :lol:


“We want a solution that will reunite our island, without backwardness or concessions. I will never accept a definitive division of my nation and I will always strive for a solution that will guarantee the human rights of every Cypriot,” he said, adding that any solution initiative should be directly monitored by the European Union.

Anastasiades, who was the main South Cypriot political leader to support the UN-led imitative for the reunification of the island in 2004, said it was not beneficial anymore to talk about the so-called “Annan plan” and that a new process needed to be initiated.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/greek- ... sCatID=351

you really have very little understanding of the cyprus problem. lets see if he utters a single word about abandoning bbf.


Why would he what to do that? :?

It is this agreement that Denktash agreed to back when that for all intents and purposes did away with the 1959 agreements. Everything is now open for renegotiation of the 1959 agreements with the approval of Denktash. BBF under EU principles is nothing to reject by the majority of the GCs, so what's your point?

He already said OXI to another so called "Annan Plan"! :wink:
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