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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:46 pm

Jerry wrote:
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boulio wrote:whats a new generation tc?


The parents and offspring of Turkish origin that arrived after 1974.


Turkey illegally bribed them with gifts of "free" GC property to emigrate in the first place. Turkey can now bribe them to go back to the mainland. I bet many so-called new generation would be pleased to move with the promise of a new BMW.


VP will prob now make the claim that Illegal Settlers and the equally Illegal CarpetShaggers have acquired rights to be there... :roll:
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Maximus » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:46 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:whats a new generation tc?


The parents and offspring of Turkish origin that arrived after 1974.


Turkey illegally bribed them with gifts of "free" GC property to emigrate in the first place. Turkey can now bribe them to go back to the mainland. I bet many so-called new generation would be pleased to move with the promise of a new BMW.


VP will prob now make the claim that Illegal Settlers and the equally Illegal CarpetShaggers have acquired rights to be there... :roll:


I am just astonished

It's crazy and not worthy of any recognition!
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:30 pm

Jerry wrote:
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boulio wrote:whats a new generation tc?


The parents and offspring of Turkish origin that arrived after 1974.


Turkey illegally bribed them with gifts of "free" GC property to emigrate in the first place. Turkey can now bribe them to go back to the mainland. I bet many so-called new generation would be pleased to move with the promise of a new BMW.


Would that be according to EU principles?
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby bill cobbett » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:36 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:whats a new generation tc?


The parents and offspring of Turkish origin that arrived after 1974.


Turkey illegally bribed them with gifts of "free" GC property to emigrate in the first place. Turkey can now bribe them to go back to the mainland. I bet many so-called new generation would be pleased to move with the promise of a new BMW.


Would that be according to EU principles?


Are you saying VP, that the Illegal Settlers and their friends the Illegal CarpetSquatters have acquired rights to stay...???
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Jerry » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:whats a new generation tc?


The parents and offspring of Turkish origin that arrived after 1974.


Turkey illegally bribed them with gifts of "free" GC property to emigrate in the first place. Turkey can now bribe them to go back to the mainland. I bet many so-called new generation would be pleased to move with the promise of a new BMW.


Would that be according to EU principles?


Well the cars would have to be European I suppose to comply with European principles.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:59 pm

Is that it? these great EU principles and the solution to the new generation TCs is to gift them all a BMW made in Europe, Jerry you are stupid?
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby DT. » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:05 pm

According to the fourth geneva convention of which Turkey signed in 1954:

Section III. Occupied territories
Articles 47-78 impose substantial obligations on occupying powers. As well as numerous provisions for the general welfare of the inhabitants of an occupied territory, an occupier may not forcibly deport protected persons, or deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into occupied territory (Art.49).
Article 49 - Population transfer [hide]
Art. 49. Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.

The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.

The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Jerry » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Is that it? these great EU principles and the solution to the new generation TCs is to gift them all a BMW made in Europe, Jerry you are stupid?



No of course I'm not, BMWs are quite nice cars.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:18 pm

DT. wrote:According to the fourth geneva convention of which Turkey signed in 1954:

Section III. Occupied territories
Articles 47-78 impose substantial obligations on occupying powers. As well as numerous provisions for the general welfare of the inhabitants of an occupied territory, an occupier may not forcibly deport protected persons, or deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into occupied territory (Art.49).
Article 49 - Population transfer [hide]
Art. 49. Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated.

The Protecting Power shall be informed of any transfers and evacuations as soon as they have taken place.

The Occupying Power shall not detain protected persons in an area particularly exposed to the dangers of war unless the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand.

The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.


Now lets face and deal with the reality before us.
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Re: Anastasiades extends a hand to the T/Cs

Postby Jerry » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:28 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Now lets face and deal with the reality before us.



The reality is that Turkey will never join the EU while its illegal occupation of Cyprus continues. And before you go off on one "we don't need the EU" remember that three quarters of you foreign investment and half of your exports are dependent on the EU. Even before you join the EU you may risk losing the customs union if you don't behave yourself.

What colour BMW are you going to choose? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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