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[Maximus]

Lordo

The French are a minority in Canada.

[repulsewarrior]

...and Canada exists, even if there are ten other Provinces as well as Quebec. Manitoba by the way, the Province, has Ukrainian as a second language, New Brunswick is completely bilingual, British Colombia has begun publishing their important Government documents in Punjabi and Chinese, all Provinces must have their Laws published in both of Canada's Official Languages, so too the packaging, safety signage, etc., where the Canadian Government has Jurisdiction. nowhere, either at the Federal or Provincial levels, even in Quebec, do people vote as "French" or "English" (or Ukrainian Sikh, or Chinese); speaking of minorities, they are the Liberals, and Social-Democrats, it is the Conservatives which hold the majority in Parliament at this moment.

...and so what, minority status? again i repeat, what is wrong, if a Turkish Constituency exists for it to have as an equal, a Greek Constituency, (and other Cypriot Constituencies), what is wrong within a State that these Persons have Liberty where within a Republic, as Individuals they have Freedom.

...Lordo, kindly say it again, for claret's benefit, say, i love Cyprus first, i am Turkish but i am no "Turk".

[Lordo]

for everybodys benefit not only do i love cyprus but i am a turkish speaking cypriot
no division and no suffocation
the only way forward is bbf

[repulsewarrior]

for everybodys benefit not only do i love cyprus but i am a turkish speaking cypriot
no division and no suffocation
the only way forward is bbf

respect.

[claret21]

you really dont understand the word minority. let me try and help you. the asians in the uk are a minority because they came here as migrant workers. on the other hand the welsh and scotts will never be a minority no matter what the numbers. they were the founding nation of GB.

now do you get it.

It would enhance my prospects of understanding your interpretation as to what constitutes a "minority" if you could relate to the Kurds of Turkey. Are they a minority witi Turkey ?

[Lordo]

kurds should never have been a minority in terkey. they fought along side of ataturk to form the terkish republic and trusted him to protect their rights. now they found themselves as minority and have been suffocated for decades.

when there are two nations in one country, either they have the veto or legal right to break away. This two settings are the only way to stop the nation with larger population exploiting and suffocating the smaller one. which is the scenario wth uk wales and scotland.

everyone can see the effect on the kurds of one man one vote and yet they call for it in cyprus. these people are fanatics and hide behind human rights as clever as hitler was when he hid behind human rights of germas to do what he did to the jews.

what is beyond belief is that eoka wanted the same thing which caused the 1963 problems and yet we have people to this day which are calling for what they asked for. if it was not acceptable in 1963 and after all the suffering between 63 and 74 and to this day too, there is no way anything other than bbf will be acceptable to the tcs. they even use the human rights exercised by the tcs as walking all over gcs rights. this is how twisted the enemies of cyprus have been and are to this day.

[Maximus]

kurds should never have been a minority in terkey. they fought along side of ataturk to form the terkish republic and trusted him to protect their rights. now they found themselves as minority and have been suffocated for decades.

when there are two nations in one country, either they have the veto or legal right to break away. This two settings are the only way to stop the nation with larger population exploiting and suffocating the smaller one. which is the scenario wth uk wales and scotland.

everyone can see the effect on the kurds of one man one vote and yet they call for it in cyprus. these people are fanatics and hide behind human rights as clever as hitler was when he hid behind human rights of germas to do what he did to the jews.

what is beyond belief is that eoka wanted the same thing which caused the 1963 problems and yet we have people to this day which are calling for what they asked for. if it was not acceptable in 1963 and after all the suffering between 63 and 74 and to this day too, there is no way anything other than bbf will be acceptable to the tcs. they even use the human rights exercised by the tcs as walking all over gcs rights. this is how twisted the enemies of cyprus have been and are to this day.

This is not accurate, and in contrast, your people fought against the Greek Cypriots independence.

Just get straight to the point and to the root of the problem Lordo. The TC's who are probably less than 10% of Cyprus's population today want 50% of the power, a veto against the legislative agenda of the vast majority and a 30% share of the Republic of Cyprus's gross domestic product.

Your people have extorted and persist in trying to expropriate disproportionate economic, political and property rights from the natives, via Turkey.

[Lordo]

just two points.
there were tc who fought for independence and killed by the british pre 1960, but i don't expect ignorant fanatic like you to be aware of it.

and please just post a single gc document pre 1960 that claimed eoka was fighting for independence.

as to the 30% power, you really are blind. in 1972 tcs were 20% of population and accepted 20% power and resources and was refused by your glorious megalomaniac leader.

as to 50% of power, that is the price you pay for having multi nationalities in one country. either you have a veto or a legal right to seperate in the constitution, just like here in the uk. the welsh and scotts have the right to seperate. it is the only thin to stop the english from suffocating them.

trouble with you is you blinded by you fanaticism.

[Maximus]

Lordo, your trying to muddy the waters with myths from yester-year.

So, can we expect the Kurds to emerge from the current peace process with the Turks, with rights similar to what you are demanding in Cyprus today?

The kurds make up about 25% of Turkeys population. are they entitled to an autonomous region comprising 37.5% of Turkish territory? How about a veto power against the Legislative agenda of the majority Turks as a protective measure againts Turkish fanaticism? what about a 40% share of Turkeys gross domestic product so they can sit back, dictate and draw welfare checks from the state?

Remember, the Kurds did fight alongside Ataturk in the creation of the Turkish state (so you say)......

[Get Real!]

for everybodys benefit not only do i love cyprus but i am a turkish speaking cypriot
no division and no suffocation
the only way forward is bbf

May we now commence laughing?