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[Oceanside50]

A preemptive strike against your criticism of American policy. In the near future instead of a chemical attack by one of these dictators on his own people, the attack could be nuclear.

[Schnauzer]

A preemptive strike against your criticism of American policy. In the near future instead of a chemical attack by one of these dictators on his own people, the attack could be nuclear.

I think you may have lost me again (if your comments are to be received as something in the form of a reply to my last contribution) as the question of any 'Nuclear' engagements have not been proposed as a resolution to the situation in 'Syria'.

Actually, I have been listening to a speech by 'Obama' in which he (quite clumsily) addressed the sudden reversal of his decision to sanction the use of 'Military Action' (measured or otherwise) and quite deftly 'Passed the Buck' to the members of 'Congress' in the hope that their backing might save a little of both HIS and 'Cameron's' credibility (if they support the use of 'Military Force') which in all probability they will if past performances are anything to go by.

A vast section of the population will be lulled into the usual soporific state required of them whenever their leaders wish to relieve themselves up the general public's backs whilst convincing them that they are only sweating, the 'War Machine' will rumble on and everyone will continue to place their faith in the 'Nosepapers' which provide them ALL necessary knowledge to keep them well 'Misinformed'.

'Nosepapers' are the 'Newspapers' that circulate among those who cannot see beyond the end of their noses.

[Oceanside50]

in 30(2043AD to be exact) years you'll be complaining about the fact that one of these Arabic dictators launched a nuclear weapon against one of his neighbors or even his own people, killing thousands upon thousands of innocents. The word "Nosegay" will creep into your fine diction, while you accuse the Western powers of laziness and indifference to these dictators. "They knew very well that they are capable of mass murder just look at the August 2013 gassing of 1400 innocents"..you will exclaim.. Nosegay will be the word you pin on those indifferent Western leaders, oddly enough the word was first used in September of 2013....

Nosegayyyy....Rosebuddd....

[Schnauzer]

in 30(2043AD to be exact) years you'll be complaining about the fact that one of these Arabic dictators launched a nuclear weapon against one of his neighbors or even his own people, killing thousands upon thousands of innocents. The word "Nosegay" will creep into your fine diction, while you accuse the Western powers of laziness and indifference to these dictators. "They knew very well that they are capable of mass murder just look at the August 2013 gassing of 1400 innocents"..you will exclaim.. Nosegay will be the word you pin on those indifferent Western leaders, oddly enough the word was first used in September of 2013....

Nosegayyyy....Rosebuddd....

Please God I should live so long , but seriously, are you really SO concerned about 'Nuclear Weaponry ?, for goodness sake by the time the dawn rises on 2043, such weapons will be 'Old Hat' BUT, doubtless there will still be the same old arguments about matters which nobody (outside of privileged minorities) will have the faintest clue about, which is WHY I constantly advocate that people should 'Read between the lines' and make their own judgements, particularly when the populations of the whole region of the 'Middle East' are embroiled in struggles to survive the catastrophic events which have been taking place since the end of 'WW2', ALL in the name of 'Progress' (with the corner up).

[Oceanside50]

in 30(2043AD to be exact) years you'll be complaining about the fact that one of these Arabic dictators launched a nuclear weapon against one of his neighbors or even his own people, killing thousands upon thousands of innocents. The word "Nosegay" will creep into your fine diction, while you accuse the Western powers of laziness and indifference to these dictators. "They knew very well that they are capable of mass murder just look at the August 2013 gassing of 1400 innocents"..you will exclaim.. Nosegay will be the word you pin on those indifferent Western leaders, oddly enough the word was first used in September of 2013....

Nosegayyyy....Rosebuddd....

Please God I should live so long , but seriously, are you really SO concerned about 'Nuclear Weaponry ?, for goodness sake by the time the dawn rises on 2043, such weapons will be 'Old Hat' BUT, doubtless there will still be the same old arguments about matters which nobody (outside of privileged minorities) will have the faintest clue about, which is WHY I constantly advocate that people should 'Read between the lines' and make their own judgements, particularly when the populations of the whole region of the 'Middle East' are embroiled in struggles to survive the catastrophic events which have been taking place since the end of 'WW2', ALL in the name of 'Progress' (with the corner up).

Yes i am concerned about nuclear weapons. If any of these despots that have recently been deposed or will be...ie Kadafy, Mubarak, Saddam Hussein, Assad and the others, would have had nuclear weapons, dont you think they would have been used on their own people?... Theyve used chemical weapons on a regular basis on their people, why not nuclear, if they had them?.....The change in that part of the world has been happening since the end of WWII, like you say.

Now imagine this, a dictator, that comes from a minority group of a country, who have ruled for many generations. At his disposal are nuclear warheads, if he is toppled, his tribe, culture will be torn to pieces. Does the dictator use the weapons to save his tribe or doesnt he?

[Schnauzer]

Pray do not concern yourself with the possibility of such scenarios nor embark upon an imaginary campaign of 'Prophetic Destruction' (instigated by whosoever).

'Military Surveillance' in the 'Middle East' (and many other regions of the world) is now so advanced that even a 'FLY' cannot go for a shite and be sure of it's privacy!.

The mere suggestion of the probability of a 'Nuclear Attack' is brilliant 'Propaganda' in all matters relevant to the situation in and around the 'Mediterranean Area' and has been for some time now, the 'Fear' of such is a far more powerful 'Weapon' than the actual 'Fusion Bomb' since the former can control the mind-sets of 'Billions' whilst the latter only capable of destruction.

It is worth considering the fact that SUDDENLY, every ruler in the regions of dispute appear to have taken leave of their senses, every one of the leaders in the 'Middle East' has (at one time or another) been labelled a 'Madman', I do wonder is there something in the air ?, if there IS, perhaps the 'Yanks' should pull out of it before old 'Obama' takes a turn.

Comes to that, we could ALL end up in a 'Mashugana House' if the right 'Nerve Gas' is released by a 'Missile Strike'.

[Oceanside50]

Nerve gas isnt efficient in destroying a culture/country....One would need 100,000+ missiles filled with these nerve gasses in order to do the job..

The point is that the opposition should not be able to retaliate after the first hit, nerve gas just doesnt cut it...

500 nuclear missiles would inhibit the opposition from retaliating....the technology is old enough for someone to come up with especially in these days of infinite information being transmitted. Countries are figuring out that if they do certain things they cant be detected....ie dig out a mountain or go underground, North Korea did just that when it exploded its first nuclear warhead a few years ago, while the UN had cameras in known buildings that were working on creating nuclear weapons. The North Koreans just dug out a mountain with their 50,000 workers and finished off their project..Who's to say that in 20 years they wouldnt be able to knock out the west coast of the usa with newly acquired missile technology?...

[Schnauzer]

As is often said "A week is a long time in Politics" and THIS last week has proven the meaning of the expression admirably.

From our 'Ringside Seats' we have seen the blustering, threatening, bullying posture of the 'War Leaders' of the mighty U.S.A. diminish to a whimpering shadow of their former selves on account of the fact that their murderous plans to attack, received little support from other nations with a bit more intelligence and foresight than the 'Gung Ho' warriors of 'Obama's Bloodthirsty Butchery Brigade'.

Obama is now engaged in a rather amusing 'Face Saving' exercise and has declared that it is his opinion that, had it not been for his original posture, the recent (more civilised) route to an acceptable alternative to 'Military Strikes', would not have been possible.

Believe that if you wish folks, the Political scenario is designed in the hope that you will BUT, just bear in mind the fact that, had it NOT been for the fact that 'Obama' was prevented from making yet another savage assault upon another nation 'At his Whim', many times more innocent civilians (probably) than were the victims of the 'Gassing' would be mourned for this day.

Incidentally, there is STILL no conclusive evidence regarding who should be held accountable for the 'Gas attack', at the very least, there should be neither threat nor action to ANY party until definite proof is available, unfortunately, the way the after events have panned out, it will now be difficult to make ANY decisions which will be met with agreement from those who were firmly in favour of the 'Obama Plan' and those who were against it.

The outcome of the 'Face Saving Exercise' will be a joy to behold'.

[Schnauzer]

The 'Face Saving Exercise' has now been concluded and the results published.

'Obama' has had his 'Black Arse' kicked once again.

Time flies and memories fade BUT, a 'A sore arse is a sore arse' !.

[Paphitis]

The 'Face Saving Exercise' has now been concluded and the results published.

'Obama' has had his 'Black Arse' kicked once again.

Time flies and memories fade BUT, a 'A sore arse is a sore arse' !.

Well it looks like this thread was just a load of baloney.

This whole situation has turned into a victory for all, including Assad. In my opinion, Assad has made an important and clever strategic move which will avert war unless he backflips on what was agreed to.

In the end, his CW arsenal will be disbanded and such a result would never occur without Obama threatening limited strikes!

I just had to read this thread again just for the laughs!