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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby kurupetos » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:33 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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AIPAC is the National Jewisk PR Committee and they are very good friends of the RoC!

Time to get down to business. Big business! :D

I don't think most GCs agree to that. :roll: Only a bunch of charlies, like you and Milti, are so eager to suck Israel's c*ck. :roll:


I beg to differ!

Most GCs will not give a damn because they're not as dumb as you are and good many will actually endorse the actions of our President in looking after RoC interests.

The RoC is not going to isolate itself from the world. It's time to make our mark and play the game.

The only GCs that will object are some die hard AKEL supporters who no one takes seriously anymore because they bought the RoC to its knees!

You can do whatever you think is right P. But we take the decisions in Cyprus. :wink:
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby kurupetos » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:34 pm

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supporttheunderdog wrote:unlike you who bends over and opens your arse to Greece.

You are not a Cypriot, dog. :roll:

And what has that got to do with the price of fish?

:lol: What fish, dog? I thought dogs prefer meat, not? :? :lol:
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby miltiades » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:54 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
AIPAC is the National Jewisk PR Committee and they are very good friends of the RoC!

Time to get down to business. Big business! :D

I don't think most GCs agree to that. :roll: Only a bunch of charlies, like you and Milti, are so eager to suck Israel's c*ck. :roll:


I beg to differ!

Most GCs will not give a damn because they're not as dumb as you are and good many will actually endorse the actions of our President in looking after RoC interests.

The RoC is not going to isolate itself from the world. It's time to make our mark and play the game.

The only GCs that will object are some die hard AKEL supporters who no one takes seriously anymore because they bought the RoC to its knees!

You can do whatever you think is right P. But we take the decisions in Cyprus. :wink:

May I ask whos is "we" ? Unless of course the luntics have taken over.

While we are on the subject, would you care to give just one example of a TANGIBLE benefit that Cyprus would derive by adopting an anti American/ Israel position.No smart answers just ONE ONLY benefit.
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby kurupetos » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:54 pm

miltiades wrote:May I ask whos is "we" ? Unless of course the luntics have taken over.

While we are on the subject, would you care to give just one example of a TANGIBLE benefit that Cyprus would derive by adopting an anti American/ Israel position.No smart answers just ONE ONLY benefit.

We are the Cypriots. Paphitis is a foreigner.

I have never talked about anti-US/Israeli policy or anti-anything, ol' boy. Our only policy should be strengthening our country and depending on our own selves, e.g., by building our own military weapons (you know what :lol: ) in association with our fatherland.

Then we could collaborate with any country as equal partners, and not as beggars and slaves. :wink:
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby Paphitis » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:09 pm

kurupetos wrote:
miltiades wrote:May I ask whos is "we" ? Unless of course the luntics have taken over.

While we are on the subject, would you care to give just one example of a TANGIBLE benefit that Cyprus would derive by adopting an anti American/ Israel position.No smart answers just ONE ONLY benefit.

We are the Cypriots. Paphitis is a foreigner.

I have never talked about anti-US/Israeli policy or anti-anything, ol' boy. Our only policy should be strengthening our country and depending on our own selves, e.g., by building our own military weapons (you know what :lol: ) in association with our fatherland.

Then we could collaborate with any country as equal partners, and not as beggars and slaves. :wink:


My arse you're Cypriot! You're a Charlie!

And don't forget, all the fair dinkum Cypriots are the one's that travel the globe and live in Qatar, UAE and places like Japan and China!

Btw, your fatherland is pretty damn f@#ked.

You are very unrealistic. Not even the US depends on itself. They can't move without their allies. Don't ever think you are more clever than these countries because tge sad truth is you're not very clever at all!
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:33 pm

kurupetos wrote:
miltiades wrote:May I ask whos is "we" ? Unless of course the luntics have taken over.

While we are on the subject, would you care to give just one example of a TANGIBLE benefit that Cyprus would derive by adopting an anti American/ Israel position.No smart answers just ONE ONLY benefit.

We are the Cypriots. Paphitis is a foreigner.

I have never talked about anti-US/Israeli policy or anti-anything, ol' boy. Our only policy should be strengthening our country and depending on our own selves, e.g., by building our own military weapons (you know what :lol: ) in association with our fatherland.

Then we could collaborate with any country as equal partners, and not as beggars and slaves. :wink:


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BTW, a little research reveals that RoC politicians have already been attending AIPAC Conferences in the US and furthermore my immature little boy, they have been working very close with the AHC by colluding against Turkish interests.

Since the early 20th century both Israeli and Greek lobbies have been working in parallel in order to prevent any rising tensions in the unstable Eastern Mediterranean. Greek and Jews lobbies have maintained excellent ties even before the establishment of the bilateral relations of Greece with Israel. American Jewish Committee delegates have visit Greece and maintain contacts with various Greek officials from both political and military background.[67] In their annual meeting in the New York City in December 2012 Greek and Israeli lobbies have assured that relations between Greece and Israel and to some extent Cyprus remain strong due to the common interest of the three countries for democracy and stability in the Eastern Mediterranean. Chairman of the Board of Trustees Nicholas Karacostas together with the other Greek American representatives have announced that they both lobbying groups will remain in contact ahead of the upcoming extraction of natural gas in both Israel and Cyprus, as part of their wider Energy Triangle.[68] Chairman of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee Alan Solow has expressed his enthusiasm in an interview by George Gilson that there is an increasing exchange of information between the two lobbies and leaders of both communities consistenly join forces to solve their common problems.[69]

A new joint action committee for the Greek-Israeli alliance has been created in the U.S. Congress in early 2013. The creation and goals of the Greek-Israeli Caucus under the name Congressional Hellenic-Israel Alliance were announced at a special event held in the Congress.[70] It is co-chaired by Congress members Gus Bilirakis the Republican representative from Florida and Ted Deutch the Democrat from Florida, and the Greek-Israeli Caucus consists of powerful members of both Republican and Democratic party. It is estimated that it may become the most important pressure group in Congress by 2014.[71][72][73]

On the 13 March 2013 in Washington the Israeli ambassador Michael Oren hosted the launching of a new congressional grouping dedicated to improving Israeli-Greek-Cypriot ties.[74][75][76] Attending the launch were the co-chairmen of the newly established Hellenic-Israel Caucus, Ted Deutch and Gus Bilirakis as well as lawmakers including John Sarbanes and Eliot Engel, the senior Democrat on the US House of Representatives Foreign Affairs Committee. Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren in his remarks at the dinner at his residence touted shared economic and strategic interests among Greece, Cyprus and Israel. The Greek ambassador Christos Panagopoulos in Washington announced that cooperation among the three countries would bring “peace, stability and prosperity” to the region. Also addressing the event was Olympia Neocleous, the charge d’affaires at the Cypriot embassy in Washington.[77][78]

In the passing of Greek-American Leader Andrew Athens AJC honored his pioneering work to advance Greek-Jewish and Hellenic-Israeli ties more than once. The most recent occasion occurred in recognition of Athens’ 90th birthday before AJC’s National Board of Governors and invited guests from the political and diplomatic communities, in his hometown of Chicago in 2011. Partnering early on with his cherished friend, the late Maynard Wishner, a fellow Chicagoan and AJC national leader, Athens spearheaded a number of joint AJC and Greek-American delegations to Greece, Cyprus and Israel.


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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby Oceanside50 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:18 pm

Greece and Cyprus go hand and hand, when the Israelis approach Greece with a defense proposal, they approach Cyprus as well and vice versa. When there is a proposal in the American congress against Turkey concerning the East Med. or Aegean, Cyprus/Greece are included or vice versa again... There is no dichotomy between the two countries.

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/a ... hell-turks

as this article notes....

Here's Broder.

"...Pro-Israel powerhouses such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee, all of which had advocated effectively for Turkey before relations between Jerusalem and Ankara began to fray, were among the organizations that joined forces with several Greek-American groups to lobby for passage of the Cyprus resolution. Bilirakis said Jewish lawmakers and members of the pro-Greece caucus teamed up to get
the resolution passed

"Greece determined that closer relations with Israel could diminish the strength of the Turkish-American lobby," said Ekavi Athanassopoulou,a political scientist at the University of Athens.

And the word is getting down to the community too. "The Greek Islands are prettier than the Turkish islands. And Greece is Israel's friend..."
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:25 am

They basically want to tone Turkey's power down just a notch so they can be more obedient to their NATO masters and they plan to use Greece/Cyprus to achieve that. The operation is to be minute and surgically accurate, and parts of it are already being executed by Mr. Alexander Downer and Mr. Anastasiades.

The end result of the operation will be positive for both Tcs and Gcs but it will actually be serving someone else. Turkey will try to stop it, and lose lots of international prestige in the process.

At the end of it all, lots of E.U chapters will be opened to Turkey and some major regional and international powers will try to streamline them through the E.U process and make the Turks believe this is their only chance at anything.
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:49 am

Where is Kurupetos? :lol:
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Re: Upgrade of USA/Cyprus relations

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:54 am

Paphitis wrote:Where is Kurupetos? :lol:


He and Yialoser have buggered off to an EOKA-B meeting.
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