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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:55 pm

kimon07 wrote:
miltiades wrote:Having Israel as OUR friend its like ...manna from heaven.

All those stupid plonkers who posted so much anti Israel crap eat your stupid arses!!

For 7 years now Miltiades was a lone voice on this forum , he has been exonerated by the recent events.

The balance of power is shifting in our favour day by day.


I had enough of this.

Join the queue… he’s as annoying as a fly!
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby miltiades » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:02 pm

kimon07 wrote:
miltiades wrote:Having Israel as OUR friend its like ...manna from heaven.

All those stupid plonkers who posted so much anti Israel crap eat your stupid arses!!

For 7 years now Miltiades was a lone voice on this forum , he has been exonerated by the recent events.

The balance of power is shifting in our favour day by day.


I had enough of this.

Before you post any more fanatic stupidities like the above, I suggest you go find out how Israel was regarding Cyprus since 1945 (if not further back) and what it was planning about it and for it. Even Wiki will help you. And Google too. Try: Israel-Cyprus relations since 1945.

And finally! There is nothing definite or permanent in international relations and bilateral relations between countries and nations. Everything is shifting and changing pursuant to the regional and/or international developments. There are ONLY NATIONAL INTERESTS.

WAKE UP and stop being delirious. We all like what is going on now, and we all support it. And we all hope it will improve and expand further. Me first. But we must all REMEMBER and KNOW how things used to be too and why. Just to make sure of how we manage, interpret and plan things. I mean, plan ahead.

Oh and yes, lest I don’t forget. Try researching a bit the role of Israel in relation to and DURING the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974. Start form WHO rescued the Turkish sailors who survived the sinking of the Turkish Destroyer by the Turkish air force during the Turkish invasion. And how come they were there. And then come back and talk to me. NOT BEFORE. You hear?

I think that you have now finally and fully comprehended the meaning of SELF INTERESTS in political terms.
Yes, Israel was wise enough to act according to her OWN interests, something we Cypriots should have done years ago, but we were more concerned with other nations interests.

Francly I donrt give a shit about your views, knowing where your priorities lay, neither do I give a toss as to how many T/sailors the Israelis saved in 1974, I care what the current situation is and what it means for Cyprus, so Plonker go and f your self and no more stupid kalamaristikes malakies, do you hear boy !!
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:10 pm

I am not sure what you guys are referring to. Perhaps you can enlighten us.

Milti mentioned that Israel saved some Turkish Sailors. If that is the case, what is wrong with that?

If a Turkish Naval boat was sunk, and sailors were at risk of drowning, then why not save them?

I mean honestly people! Must it really come to this? Just prevent as much loss of life as is possible. I would even hope that Greece would save the sailors. We are not animals and there are Conventions we should uphold regardless if Turkey does not. :roll:
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby miltiades » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:49 pm

Paphitis wrote:I am not sure what you guys are referring to. Perhaps you can enlighten us.

Milti mentioned that Israel saved some Turkish Sailors. If that is the case, what is wrong with that?

If a Turkish Naval boat was sunk, and sailors were at risk of drowning, then why not save them?

I mean honestly people! Must it really come to this? Just prevent as much loss of life as is possible. I would even hope that Greece would save the sailors. We are not animals and there are Conventions we should uphold regardless if Turkey does not. :roll:

A sensible post Paphitis !
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby miltiades » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
miltiades wrote:Having Israel as OUR friend its like ...manna from heaven.

All those stupid plonkers who posted so much anti Israel crap eat your stupid arses!!

For 7 years now Miltiades was a lone voice on this forum , he has been exonerated by the recent events.

The balance of power is shifting in our favour day by day.


I had enough of this.

Join the queue… he’s as annoying as a fly!

The arch Israeli hater who posted more anti Israel crap than anyone else has now added his particular blend of more crap.

Havent you joined Al Qeada yet Plonker ?
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:06 pm

kimon07 wrote:
miltiades wrote:Having Israel as OUR friend its like ...manna from heaven.

All those stupid plonkers who posted so much anti Israel crap eat your stupid arses!!

For 7 years now Miltiades was a lone voice on this forum , he has been exonerated by the recent events.

The balance of power is shifting in our favour day by day.


I had enough of this.

Before you post any more fanatic stupidities like the above, I suggest you go find out how Israel was regarding Cyprus since 1945 (if not further back) and what it was planning about it and for it. Even Wiki will help you. And Google too. Try: Israel-Cyprus relations since 1945.

And finally! There is nothing definite or permanent in international relations and bilateral relations between countries and nations. Everything is shifting and changing pursuant to the regional and/or international developments. There are ONLY NATIONAL INTERESTS.

WAKE UP and stop being delirious. We all like what is going on now, and we all support it. And we all hope it will improve and expand further. Me first. But we must all REMEMBER and KNOW how things used to be too and why. Just to make sure of how we manage, interpret and plan things. I mean, plan ahead.

Oh and yes, lest I don’t forget. Try researching a bit the role of Israel in relation to and DURING the Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974. Start form WHO rescued the Turkish sailors who survived the sinking of the Turkish Destroyer by the Turkish air force during the Turkish invasion. And how come they were there. And then come back and talk to me. NOT BEFORE. You hear?


Well Kimon, it looks like you need to get a grip.

In 1974, the TAF attack 3 Turkish Navy Destroyers mistaking them for Hellenic Navy ships reported to be enroute from Rhodos.

The TN Kocatepe sustained a direct hit to its 5 inch gun magazine and detonated, killing 80 sailors and 42 abandoning ship as the Kocateo sank. The other 2 Turkish Destroyers were severely damaged as they too were hit.

An Israeli Merchant ship was nearby and rescued 42 Turkish Sailors.

Any country would have done the same and it is mandatory to answer any ship in distress under Maritime Law.

Once again, it was a mere merchant!

http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_296.shtml

So what seems to be the issue Kimon?
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby kimon07 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:22 pm

Paphitis wrote:Israel did not even exist in 1945.


Try the "People of Israel" and the plans for the formation of the state of Israel.
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:54 am

Another alternative...

Liquefied Natural Gas Tankers

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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby miltiades » Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:19 am

When Cyprus goes to war with Turkey and thrushes the enemy, striking deep in Turkey :lol: :lol: then our victorious army can turn its attention to Israel and punishes it for its past wrongdoings :lol: :lol:

A new alliance can then be created with Al Queda and take on the evil that is America :lol: :lol:

As always some on this forum, blinded by their hatred of the West and in particular of Israel, can not see further than their snotty noses, they very much regret the fact that Israel is now officially an important strategic ally of our island, an alliance that has begun the shift in the balance of power.
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Re: Federation of Cyprus, Greece and Israel

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:15 am

miltiades wrote:As always some on this forum, blinded by their hatred of the West and in particular of Israel, can not see further than their snotty noses, they very much regret the fact that Israel is now officially an important strategic ally of our island, an alliance that has begun the shift in the balance of power.


If they regret their criticism of warmongering nations and now open their arms in welcome, then they are hypocrites - but I haven't seen much of that.

Perhaps they foresaw a future when alliances with these warmongering nations may be necessary (like now) - after all, we have one hell of a huge warmongering nation to defeat and get off our soil so who better to do it then another warmongering nation?

Having foreseen a 'need to ally' with nations, in close proximity to us, who have defended their right to exist so vehemently that they have imparted on the rights of others, perhaps these people that you claim are "blinded by hatred" are in fact people that want everyone to respect the rights of others and would have preferred for these warmongering nations to have gotten their houses in order before our need to ally with them is manifest.
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