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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:56 pm

Lordo wrote:they have to and then your problem will begin. you will buy you out lock stock and barrell.


Pardon? what are you talking about?
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:28 pm

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Maximus wrote:Do you not understand English? do you not understand that political equality according to that definition does not mean equal numerical participation in the federal government?


Look you need to concentrate on the question, for arguements sake we have all accepted the maths 8 vs 2....how do you propose to bring about the following " in safeguards to ensure that the federal government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated states" when you have the imbalance of 8 vs 2? in all reality the 2 have no real effective say in anything, they are symbolic the 8 can do as they wish. Now do you get it?


No I do not get it, please explain to me what you have in mind so I can get it.

Do you get that that was just an example? there are fewer than 100,000 TC's north of the green line today (what is it 75,000 by conservative estimates?). electing one TC MP to sit in the federal government is being generous. NO?


Let me make it even simplier, forget the maths 2 1 or even zero....with whatever combination makes you happy put forward how will achieve what you yourself posted eg "safeguards to ensure that the federal government will not be empowered to adopt any measures against the interests of one community; and in the equality and identical powers and functions of the two federated states"
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Maximus » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:10 pm

I thought I already done that by stipulating that each federated state will more or less be sovereign from a domestic perspective, but with harmonized laws.

I think BBF is BS anyway, you said you want a single citizenship and a single international personality so all Cypriots are the same. :roll:

Therefore, there should just be a left side and a right side.....
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:04 pm

Its now obvious you have no answers because your real aim is not to share but dominate.
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby boulio » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:38 pm

Ok VP how would you solve political deadlock at the federal level?
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:06 am

boulio wrote:Ok VP how would you solve political deadlock at the federal level?


what political deadlock, there will not be any. it is in nobodies interest to create one. i think people learnt their lesson from last time. if they did not then it was not meant to be.

evli evine, koylu koyune, evi olmayanin sican deligine.
home owners to their homes, villagers to their village, those without house to the rat hole.
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Demonax » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:39 am

By Yusuf Kanli

Turkish Cypriots are like that poor young Anatolian girl not only ruthlessly raped by an army of men assumed to have been there to “protect” her, but the ordeal she was subjected to was kept secret to save the honor of the neighborhood.


They've finally said it! :shock:
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Maximus » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:33 pm

Lordo wrote:
boulio wrote:Ok VP how would you solve political deadlock at the federal level?


what political deadlock, there will not be any. it is in nobodies interest to create one. i think people learnt their lesson from last time. if they did not then it was not meant to be.

evli evine, koylu koyune, evi olmayanin sican deligine.
home owners to their homes, villagers to their village, those without house to the rat hole.


So what lesson have you learn Bordo?

Besides the fact that the two sides still disagree on more or less everything to this day, besides the fact that the TC's are still clinging onto apartheid structures, inequality and want to bring back the same mechanism's imposed on the GC's in the 1960's, the chances are very high that history will repeat itself if the TC's get their way undemocratically and try to dominate as a minute minority living in Cyprus as Turks and controlled by Turkey.

The probability of deadlock at the federal level is almost certain.

I agree that it was not meant to be, what was meant to be and what should have happened before 1960 was the repatriation of the TC's back to modern day Turkey and not a Turkish invasion more than a decade afterward. If the TC's cant live in a democratic Cyprus as an ethnic minority then Turkey is always an option and a very wise choice.
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:38 pm

Why is it that we have to leave our country? why dont you bugger off to the country you wanted to gift us to? if you cant live under a BBF with political equality of the 2 states then the current situation can continue. We will never accept minority rights in a GC dominated country so you leave us no choice but to continue the fight to defend our rights.
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Re: The only Option for the Turkish Cypriots!

Postby Lordo » Sat Nov 02, 2013 11:51 pm

Maximus wrote:
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boulio wrote:Ok VP how would you solve political deadlock at the federal level?


what political deadlock, there will not be any. it is in nobodies interest to create one. i think people learnt their lesson from last time. if they did not then it was not meant to be.

evli evine, koylu koyune, evi olmayanin sican deligine.
home owners to their homes, villagers to their village, those without house to the rat hole.


So what lesson have you learn Bordo?

Besides the fact that the two sides still disagree on more or less everything to this day, besides the fact that the TC's are still clinging onto apartheid structures, inequality and want to bring back the same mechanism's imposed on the GC's in the 1960's, the chances are very high that history will repeat itself if the TC's get their way undemocratically and try to dominate as a minute minority living in Cyprus as Turks and controlled by Turkey.

The probability of deadlock at the federal level is almost certain.

I agree that it was not meant to be, what was meant to be and what should have happened before 1960 was the repatriation of the TC's back to modern day Turkey and not a Turkish invasion more than a decade afterward. If the TC's cant live in a democratic Cyprus as an ethnic minority then Turkey is always an option and a very wise choice.

dont you worry your little peasantic mind my friend, the tcs are ahead of you. when it comes to apartheid i am aferaid you are living in dreamworld. what you really want is to reduce the tcs to a minority, but i got news for you not over your dead body. read your constitution, founding nations are never a minority. when will you learn a bit of reality. but i am glad blackjohn has realised the fact that he has to compromise and to say it so publicly. now we are in business.
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