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[Get Real!]

Without a pot to pee in, are the purchase of these two boats to protect the oil potential?

http://cyprus-mail.com/2013/12/18/decis ... -gunboats/


Whilst I can understand the need to protect future investments, and put off antagonistic eyes of such things as the 'Barbarosa'. Is it really necessary at this moment in time, when Cyprus' people are broke and scrabbling around to make ends meet?

Cart before the horse?

I disagree…

Defense is EXTREMELY important because it’s a DETERRENT to your enemies because they know that there won’t be a walk in the park and that there’ll be a heavy price to pay if they try anything stupid.

Only the ones who are prepared to pay that heavy price will attack when you’re well armed and you’ll find that means pretty much nobody!

Look at America, they only attack 3rd world countries that cannot defend them selves! Doesn’t that teach you something?

Look at Turkey… they only invaded Cyprus when Cyprus was in total disarray during the Greek coup!

We keep seeing that the enemy will only attack when you’re weak so it is our duty to NEVER be weak even if it means we lose out on other things that could’ve been done with that money.

Our freedom; as we here in Cyprus know only too well, is our most valuable priority.

[bill cobbett]

Yes of course it's about deterrence but don't look on the purchase of these boats in isolation cos their significance would be to show that CY is playing its part, albeit naturally a small one, with its own real hardware, to the developing regional alliances.

[Lordo]

who are you going to do your fighting for you boys, israel. for them to do it will cost you all the oil and only if us allows it. israel will share with terkey and jod done. us cypriots will get hot air.

[Flying Horse]

I'm not disagreeing with the reasoning behind it. I just feel its slightly wrong on the timing, judging the current financial climate.

For example. The UK bought two aircraft carriers, and the public went nuts(I think they are still being built at massive rising cost). Those carriers are the brunt of many jokes, as there aren't any planes to put on them. A: they decommissioned some very good planes, then B: couldn't afford to buy new ones.
Ever so Slightly different, I know, but I just can't help being cynical about upgrading military stock when you can't afford it.

[Get Real!]

who are you going to do your fighting for you boys, israel. for them to do it will cost you all the oil and only if us allows it. israel will share with terkey and jod done. us cypriots will get hot air.

I for one will be one of those doing the fighting Lordo and I’m pretty sure all the guys at my battalion are also ready as I train with them regularly.

The question you should be asking is who is going to save YOUR sorry arse should push go to shove?

Oh I forgot... you're just a fat slob who runs a fish & chip shop in London!

NB: You do realize I hope, that if there’s a round 2 we can no longer allow for a “TC community” to exist. I’m sure you understand the reasoning behind this.

[Get Real!]

I'm not disagreeing with the reasoning behind it. I just feel its slightly wrong on the timing, judging the current financial climate.

For example. The UK bought two aircraft carriers, and the public went nuts(I think they are still being built at massive rising cost). Those carriers are the brunt of many jokes, as there aren't any planes to put on them. A: they decommissioned some very good planes, then B: couldn't afford to buy new ones.
Ever so Slightly different, I know, but I just can't help being cynical about upgrading military stock when you can't afford it.

I don’t know about Britain’s military aspirations but the corvettes ordered by the CNG are state of the art and can take on multiple targets at once so they are definitely necessary seeing all the recent threats coming from Turkey.

Each of these corvettes can take on 5-6 of those aged Turkish ships simultaneously if they threaten our installations, so they’re a great buy.

We can’t afford NOT to back our hydrocarbons with military firepower.

[Lordo]

who are you going to do your fighting for you boys, israel. for them to do it will cost you all the oil and only if us allows it. israel will share with terkey and jod done. us cypriots will get hot air.

I for one will be one of those doing the fighting Lordo and I’m pretty sure all the guys at my battalion are also ready as I train with them regularly.

The question you should be asking is who is going to save YOUR sorry arse should push go to shove?

Oh I forgot... you're just a fat slob who runs a fish & chip shop in London!

NB: You do realize I hope, that if there’s a round 2 we can no longer allow for a “TC community” to exist. I’m sure you understand the reasoning behind this.

no reh spano du charlui. i now live in cyprus in the south to be exact and dont worry when the fighting starts i will be right behind you.

[Paphitis]

Without a pot to pee in, are the purchase of these two boats to protect the oil potential?

http://cyprus-mail.com/2013/12/18/decis ... -gunboats/


Whilst I can understand the need to protect future investments, and put off antagonistic eyes of such things as the 'Barbarosa'. Is it really necessary at this moment in time, when Cyprus' people are broke and scrabbling around to make ends meet?

Cart before the horse?

I disagree…

Defense is EXTREMELY important because it’s a DETERRENT to your enemies because they know that there won’t be a walk in the park and that there’ll be a heavy price to pay if they try anything stupid.

Only the ones who are prepared to pay that heavy price will attack when you’re well armed and you’ll find that means pretty much nobody!

Look at America, they only attack 3rd world countries that cannot defend them selves! Doesn’t that teach you something?

Look at Turkey… they only invaded Cyprus when Cyprus was in total disarray during the Greek coup!

We keep seeing that the enemy will only attack when you’re weak so it is our duty to NEVER be weak even if it means we lose out on other things that could’ve been done with that money.

Our freedom; as we here in Cyprus know only too well, is our most valuable priority.

It's usually the third world countries that are despots!

Look at North Korea! What a silly fucked up situation that is.

[Paphitis]

Without a pot to pee in, are the purchase of these two boats to protect the oil potential?

http://cyprus-mail.com/2013/12/18/decis ... -gunboats/


Whilst I can understand the need to protect future investments, and put off antagonistic eyes of such things as the 'Barbarosa'. Is it really necessary at this moment in time, when Cyprus' people are broke and scrabbling around to make ends meet?

Cart before the horse?

These OPVs are very important and will be able to joint interoperational missions with the Isarely Navy and that is extremely important for the RoC.

Missile Capability is extremely important to, so the RoC will need to include that upgrade.

Also, there are unconfirmed reports of a Corvette order from France.

[GreekIslandGirl]

For example. The UK bought two aircraft carriers, and the public went nuts(I think they are still being built at massive rising cost).

First, the UK is not under direct threat, as is Cyprus from Turkey. And second, the public went nuts (for a day) because of where they were going to be constructed.