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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby Lordo » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:49 pm

tsukoui wrote:
Lordo wrote:Galimerhaba tsukui my friend, just my human rights will be sufficient. they will include everything we need.

It is terggy that is stifling your human rights with their occupation. If you are not blaming them then I suspect it is because you secretly want your language and religion to dominate like your terggish masters. We can accommodate a synthesis. We can move towards communal living, not looking back to Ottoman times but forward to a new age. But perhaps I am missing you? If not language and religion, what "human" rights are you talking about? Are you saying you are different from us?

come now tsoukui, i thought we were making progress here. it is not terggy that is doing anything. our rights were taken from us before terggish soldiers set foot on this island. its no good you posting such careless thoughts and waking up the vampire from lesbos island into our nightmares. we have a hard life as it is do not complicate it.
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby tsukoui » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:31 am

Lordo wrote:
tsukoui wrote:
Lordo wrote:Galimerhaba tsukui my friend, just my human rights will be sufficient. they will include everything we need.

It is terggy that is stifling your human rights with their occupation. If you are not blaming them then I suspect it is because you secretly want your language and religion to dominate like your terggish masters. We can accommodate a synthesis. We can move towards communal living, not looking back to Ottoman times but forward to a new age. But perhaps I am missing you? If not language and religion, what "human" rights are you talking about? Are you saying you are different from us?

come now tsoukui, i thought we were making progress here. it is not terggy that is doing anything. our rights were taken from us before terggish soldiers set foot on this island. its no good you posting such careless thoughts and waking up the vampire from lesbos island into our nightmares. we have a hard life as it is do not complicate it.

Look how Cuba is bringing Latin America together...Cyprus could do the same with Greece and Turkey...it just needs independence...
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:53 am

tsukoui wrote:
Lordo wrote:
tsukoui wrote:
Lordo wrote:Galimerhaba tsukui my friend, just my human rights will be sufficient. they will include everything we need.

It is terggy that is stifling your human rights with their occupation. If you are not blaming them then I suspect it is because you secretly want your language and religion to dominate like your terggish masters. We can accommodate a synthesis. We can move towards communal living, not looking back to Ottoman times but forward to a new age. But perhaps I am missing you? If not language and religion, what "human" rights are you talking about? Are you saying you are different from us?

come now tsoukui, i thought we were making progress here. it is not terggy that is doing anything. our rights were taken from us before terggish soldiers set foot on this island. its no good you posting such careless thoughts and waking up the vampire from lesbos island into our nightmares. we have a hard life as it is do not complicate it.

Look how Cuba is bringing Latin America together...Cyprus could do the same with Greece and Turkey...it just needs independence...


...well said.
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby kurupetos » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:48 pm

tsukoui wrote:
Lordo wrote:
tsukoui wrote:
Lordo wrote:Galimerhaba tsukui my friend, just my human rights will be sufficient. they will include everything we need.

It is terggy that is stifling your human rights with their occupation. If you are not blaming them then I suspect it is because you secretly want your language and religion to dominate like your terggish masters. We can accommodate a synthesis. We can move towards communal living, not looking back to Ottoman times but forward to a new age. But perhaps I am missing you? If not language and religion, what "human" rights are you talking about? Are you saying you are different from us?

come now tsoukui, i thought we were making progress here. it is not terggy that is doing anything. our rights were taken from us before terggish soldiers set foot on this island. its no good you posting such careless thoughts and waking up the vampire from lesbos island into our nightmares. we have a hard life as it is do not complicate it.

Look how Cuba is bringing Latin America together...Cyprus could do the same with Greece and Turkey...it just needs independence...

:lol:
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:34 am

14 December 2014

THE «BICOMMUNAL FAMAGUSTA INITIATIVE»: ANNOUNCEMENT

The Bicommunal Famagusta Initiative strongly supports and welcomes the formation of the MOVEMENT FOR FEDERAL CYPRUS, urges all sides to avoid actions that undermine the peace process and calls on the two leaders to resume negotiations leading to a comprehensive settlement and a Federal Cyprus.

The Bicommunal Famagusta Initiative was formed in November 2013 out of a desire for a common vision for a sustainable revival of the wider Famagusta region. The Bicommunal Famagusta Initiative will pursue the goal of the revival of Famagusta both before and after a comprehensive settlement, and shall collaborate with all stakeholders, including municipalities, residents, NGO's, experts and business people.

The Bicommunal Famagusta Initiative,

Famagusta, Cyprus

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https://www.facebook.com/go4famagusta?h ... n=timeline

http://www.thecypriotpuzzle.org/2014/12 ... ative.html
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Dec 27, 2014 7:30 pm

Last week deputy Zorlu Töre took the floor during the parliamentary debate on budgetary issues in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC), making a patriotic speech as usual.
Following his performance deputy Doğuş Derya took the floor and said the following: “By reliance on a story of constant victimhood, we are always told that we were the only ones who suffered in war, as if there is a winning party. We were never told that others also suffered. Not only did we lose but other people who lived in this country also lost. They were forced to leave their homes and properties; they were raped. The [Cyprus Orthodox] Church permitted abortion in 1974 for the first time because there were so many Greek women that had been raped. For this reason, we need to remember that there are people we ignored because we objectified them as enemies. By looking through the lens of a federalist point of view, we could confront the reality and the truth of others. That would maybe mean remembering how to be ashamed; remembering that we have a consciousness. We need to consider the future, not just the past. We need to show determination to build a future. If we do this, then we would fulfill our responsibility.”

The statement attracted the ire of many, including other deputies, who repeated well-known formulaic statements and arguments. The Cultural Association of People from Hatay, the Cultural Association of People from the Black Sea and nationalists of all sorts -- mainly from mainland Turkey -- further launched a smear campaign.

There are some significant developments regarding the federalist argument referenced by Deputy Doğuş Derya. Although this is not the first time, a comprehensive and remarkable initiative toward a federal solution was presented by the grassroots organization, Federal Cyprus Initiative. The initiative, which was founded on Dec. 14 with the support of Cypriot Greeks, Cypriot Turks, Armenians and Maronites, states: “To create a unified Federal Cyprus, we need to address the longstanding clichés raised by official circles and the conventional perception of realities. We also need to confront the realities and truths of those we considered enemies.” http://en.cihan.com.tr/news/Federal-Cyp ... YzNDE4Ni81

This is a very valuable initiative as a mainstream internal dynamic with no link to Britain, Greece, the EU, the UN, the US or Turkey. This is also a spontaneous initiative not based on political calculations and for this reason alone, disturbs nationalists on both ends of the island.

Let us also look at what deputy Derya referred to in another part of her speech: “Today, RIK TV, which is a state-run broadcasting body, talks about the suffering of Turkish Cypriots between 1963 and 1974. Greek Cypriots started a process of confrontation. Those who witness this from both sides feel uncomfortable because when a federal Cyprus becomes integrated with the world, a lot of things in the current illegal stage would change.”
Derya's speech can be accessed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr-Q-tzg_3s
Former president of Cyprus, Demetris Christofias, also recently said something along the same lines: “The Greek Cypriots should hail the brave attitude of Derya and show the same bravery. Is it not true that some Greek Cypriots raped women and children, executed unarmed prisoners and committed bloody attacks in Maratha, Aoli, Sandalaris and Tohni? The mutual trust and rapprochement between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots may not bring about the settlement of the Cyprus issue, but this is the precondition for a federal solution.”

Yet the smear campaign against Derya is not a coincidence.

Note: There is shocking and well-documented information provided by Professor Niyazi Kızılyürek in Yeni Düzen newspaper on the rapes that occurred during the 1974 military intervention.
http://www.yeniduzen.com/Yazarlar/niyazi-kizil ... ardir/5422
The whole matter is not about American, Greek, Serbian or Turkish armies' discipline during wars, it is about the character of men with a weapon in their hands in an environment of total chaos that we call war.

Merry Christmas to Christian readers.

CENGİZ AKTAR (Cihan/Today's Zaman)


http://en.cihan.com.tr/news/Federal-Cyp ... YzNDE4Ni81

Federal Cyprus and its enemies


a very hopeful article, i think.
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby kurupetos » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:34 pm

^^ In what way, RW? :?
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:30 am

...the truth, re kurupetos, to hear the truth is hopeful.
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:17 pm

CYPRUS is one of the most militarized countries in the world, according to the Global Militarisation Index (GMI) issued by the Bonn International Center for Conversion.

According to the latest study, the world's most militarized country is Israel, followed by Singapore, Armenia, Syria, Russia, Cyprus, South Korea, Jordan, Greece and Azerbaijan.

The index is based on data from the year 2013, and covers a total of 152 countries.

The most heavily militarised countries in Europe are Armenia, Russia, Cyprus, Greece, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Ukraine, Finland, Estonia and Turkey.

The world's least militarised countries are Panama, Costa Rica and Haiti.
— © FAMAGUSTA GAZETTE CYPRUS
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Re: Goodwill Forward

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jan 29, 2015 10:41 pm



PRESS CONFERENCE FOR THE PRESENTATION OF THE BI-COMMUNAL PROJECT «THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY MATTERS – SOCIAL ACTORS HAVE THEIR SAY»

Initial statement by Pavlos Kalosinatos

(co-ordinator of the project)

The Cyprus problem is a long pending problem which constitutes the greatest barrier obstructing the economic and social development of the Cypriot people as a whole. In the past decades countless negotiation processes have not resulted to a breakthrough that could lead to a just, fair and viable solution of the Cyprus problem. With the intension to support the negotiation process commencing in Fall 2013, this project is giving an effort to address a weakness of previous negotiations rounds: the lack of mobilisation of social actors.

Social actors are of strategic importance for the solution of the Cyprus problem, not only because their support to the process may generate wide acceptance and active participation for the implementation of a negotiated solution. Social actors may deliver with their expertise useful feedback that could assist the elaboration of essential provisions of the solution that are indispensable for the economic and social cohesion of the common future state and thus indispensable for the viability of the negotiated solution.

The main objective of this bi-communal project is to encourage the democratic participation of social actors in the process by providing space to them to intervene collectively (Turkish and Greek Cypriots together with one voice), timely (parallel to the negotiation process) and in an organised and co-ordinated manner (within the framework of a structured process) in the course of the forthcoming negotiations. The project is being implemented by the Cyprus Labour Institute in co-operation with PEO and DEV-İŞ and includes following activities:

Production of a Framework Document. The document is going to be a study on how economic and social cohesion is safeguarded and promoted in federal state structures. It will discuss international practices and develop a draft model of development for Cyprus, based on the economic performance and characteristics of the two communities.
Formation of the social actors’ network. The network will consist or various social organisations from the wide spectrum of the country’s economic and social life. To this end, the project is going to co-operate with the bi-communal All Cyprus Trade Union Forum.

Convention of thematic conferences. The network will organise thematic conferences, addressing to representatives to trade unions and social organisations. The thematic conferences will focus on issues related with the economic and social cohesion, such social security and protection, labour relations, trade unions rights, equality and combating discrimination, access to education and health services, etc. Thematic conferences will be striving at concluding unanimous adopted thematic memoranda.
Dissemination of outcomes. With various activities, the network will disseminate its products (publications, creation of a trilingual website, dissemination in social media, press conferences, handing over of memoranda to the negotiators and the community leaders).
Nicosia, 15 January 2015
http://www.peo.org.cy/en/index.php/news ... ur-country
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