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[Paphitis]

Oh yes, not me you.
You have zero evidence, not it's you who has zero evidence.
How more childish can you be?

I have all the evidence I need to understand that MH370 is in the Indian Ocean approximately where the search is currently underway.

As to physical evidence, I am certain the authorities have loads of it.

You really are not making any sense!

Now where do you think MH370 is?

And why are you so much against the search effort and investigation?

[Pyrpolizer]

But I think (after the childish comments) you raised some reasonable questions that need to be clarified.
You will surely notice that I did not really care for this incident until many days have passed whereas you dealt with from the first day because of your profession.

You are wrong that I want this investigation to fail. Assuming they had announced the cause of MH370 within say 1-2 weeks I would just hear it from the news and forget all about it .

I got curious after that, and started looking at the whole matter. The more I looked into it, the more my doubts increased as to what the real truth behind this incident is.
I have nothing against the Americans-British-Australians in fact I share your belief that they are the most Technologically advanced to reveal the truth.
The fact that they achieved nothing, the so many obvious lies, simply made them my #1 suspects of trying to hide the truth than reveal it.

I could even suspect the Russians having done something given the fact that the incident almost coincided with the Crimea crisis, but I have nothing in hand to support it.
I could even suspect the Chinese, but hey, they are just as confused in everything I wouldn’t really make them the honor of suspecting them cheating up on the whole world.

Much to my regret I think this matter will close within about 8 days with absolutely no results.
If the Americans or the Russians had anything to do with this we will simply never know.

NB. Thanks for your PM

What I basically disagree with you is your beleif that everything is straight forward and as clear as the sky. Your belief that If a plane disappeared then (based on the law of gravity) it should be somewhere, that good scientists and benevolent powers will finally find it.

[Paphitis]

Search operation for Malaysia Airlines aircraft: Update 27

Search activities for Saturday have now concluded. Approximately 252,000 square kilometres were searched.
Aircraft in the search area have continued to report sightings of objects similar to those reported on Friday.
A Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force Ilyushin IL-76 reported sighting three objects in the search area.
A Royal Australian Air Force P3 Orion also reported sighting multiple objects in a different part of the search area.
The objects sighted by aircraft cannot be verified or discounted as being from MH370 until they are relocated and recovered by ships.
The Haixun 01 and HMAS Success reported they have retrieved a number of objects from the ocean but so far no objects confirmed to be related to MH370 have been recovered.
Today’s search activities involved a total of eight aircraft.
They included three Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) P3 Orions, a Japanese Coast Guard jet, a Japanese P3 Orion, a Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) P3 Orion, a Chinese People’s Liberation Army Air Force Ilyushin IL-76, and one civil jet acting as a communications relay.
HMAS Success, the Chinese Maritime Safety Administration ship Haixun 01, China Rescue and Salvage Bureau ship Nan Hai Jiu, and the Chinese Navy ship Jinggang Shan arrived in the search area today and a further five ships should arrive tomorrow.
The ANZAC class frigate HMAS Toowoomba left Perth earlier tonight and is due to arrive at the search area in about three days.
The weather in the search area was described as reasonable for searching however visibility was reduced to about four kilometres with rain showers.
The search will resume in the morning.

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/documents ... date27.pdf

As suspected, the Chinese Ship and HMAS Success have retrieved debris according to the above AMSA report but they refuse to confirm that it is debris from the ill fated MH370.

Another 5 Ships are due to arrive tomorrow!

HMAS Toowoomba due in 3 days.

[Pyrpolizer]

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The Haixun 01 and HMAS Success reported they have retrieved a number of objects from the ocean but so far no objects confirmed to be related to MH370 have been recovered.

Excuse me Pahitis but what do you understand from this?
I understand it says ok they retrieved some objects but they are not related to MH370.

[Paphitis]

But I think (after the childish comments) you raised some reasonable questions that need to be clarified.
You will surely notice that I did not really care for this incident until many days have passed whereas you dealt with from the first day because of your profession.

You are wrong that I want this investigation to fail. Assuming they had announced the cause of MH370 within say 1-2 weeks I would just hear it from the news and forget all about it .

I got curious after that, and started looking at the whole matter. The more I looked into it, the more my doubts increased as to what the real truth behind this incident is.
I have nothing against the Americans-British-Australians in fact I share your belief that they are the most Technologically advanced to reveal the truth.
The fact that they achieved nothing, the so many obvious lies, simply made them my #1 suspects of trying to hide the truth than reveal it.

I could even suspect the Russians having done something given the fact that the incident almost coincided with the Crimea crisis, but I have nothing in hand to support it.
I could even suspect the Chinese, but hey, they are just as confused in everything I wouldn’t really make them the honor of suspecting them cheating up on the whole world.

Much to my regret I think this matter will close within about 8 days with absolutely no results.
If the Americans or the Russians had anything to do with this we will simply never know.

NB. Thanks for your PM

What I basically disagree with you is your beleif that everything is straight forward and as clear as the sky. Your belief that If a plane disappeared then (based on the law of gravity) it should be somewhere, that good scientists and benevolent powers will finally find it.

Let's get a few things straight. Yes the aircraft has crashed somewhere in the Indian Ocean. I believe 100% that they will find some floating debris and according to the latest report some debris has already been retrieved by the Australian and Chinese Ship. The Black Box will prove to be a lot more difficult. They have already begun searching for it today but it is like looking for a needle in a haystack. The batteries will die in a few days but they did find AF447 after 2 years. Thus thing will not due after 8 days. The Australians and Americans will probably continue to search for MH370 for possibly many months if not years and it is gong to cost a fortune, possibly over a Billion Dollars. That is how Important this is!

The aircraft was not shot down, at least not by the Americans. The Diego Garcia theory of yours does not hold much water for many reasons. I also seriously doubt any other country shot it down and that includes the Russians or Chinese. The Russians would not do this despite Crimea. First of all it was a Malaysian Aircraft but in any case I just simply do not believe the Russians will shoot down airliners.

The most likely scenario is Human Intervention and quite sadly I must admit that the possibility of Pilot Suicide is being considered by investigators. It is still early days of course and I hope maybe Malaysian Authorities show some respect to the crew until there is concrete evidence. The aircraft did change course and it was picked up by Primary Radars in Malaysia and Thailand.

So either the Pilot(s) had something to do with it or one of the passengers hijacked the aircraft. There was an Aircraft Engineer on board the aircraft as well so I guess this individual will also be investigated.

As stated earlier, it appears that some debris has been recovered but AMSA is very cautious about making premature statements. I anticipate more debris to be retrieved tomorrow.

[Pyrpolizer]

Now answering your question
Now where do you think MH370 is?
"Is" means it exists either as parts or as a whole. I have my doubts for each one.

My only means to guess is information from the internet, some basic logic, and the sort of sense most humans have that something ain't right. At this stage the only thing that it can convince me is the finding of the fuselage plus human bodies and objects within it.Plus the Black box.
Anything else will be inconclusive.
I am sure the truth is somewhere on the internet and someone already spotted it.
It remains to be seen if we will ever be able to double cross it with real evidence.

[Paphitis]

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The Haixun 01 and HMAS Success reported they have retrieved a number of objects from the ocean but so far no objects confirmed to be related to MH370 have been recovered.

Excuse me Pahitis but what do you understand from this?
I understand it says ok they retrieved some objects but they are not related to MH370.

It says that no objects are confirmed as belonging to MH370!

It could be the Lift Dumper that was spotted by the Kiwi Orion for all we know but unless the objects are scrutinized by qualified engineers, they just simply can't make the call unless the pulled some debris with MAS markings on it.

You need to improve your English Pyro!

[Paphitis]

Now answering your question
Now where do you think MH370 is?
"Is" means it exists either as parts or as a whole. I have my doubts for each one.

My only means to guess is information from the internet, some basic logic, and the sort of sense most humans have that something ain't right. At this stage the only thing that it can convince me is the finding of the fuselage plus human bodies and objects within it.Plus the Black box.
Anything else will be inconclusive.
I am sure the truth is somewhere on the internet and someone already spotted it.
It remains to be seen if we will ever be able to double cross it with real evidence.

Mate get over it. If they find debris in the Indian Ocean and confirm it as belonging to MH370 then that is conclusive evidence that MH370 crashed in the Indian Ocean somewhere.

If Australia at any stage picked up the aircraft on its JORN Surveillance system then that is additional evidence if they release such data.

[Pyrpolizer]

Quote;
The Haixun 01 and HMAS Success reported they have retrieved a number of objects from the ocean but so far no objects confirmed to be related to MH370 have been recovered.

Excuse me Pahitis but what do you understand from this?
I understand it says ok they retrieved some objects but they are not related to MH370.

It says that no objects are confirmed as belonging to MH370!

It could be the Lift Dumper that was spotted by the Kiwi Orion for all we know but unless the objects are scrutinized by qualified engineers, they just simply can't make the call unless the pulled some debris with MAS markings on it.

You need to improve your English Pyro!

I think my English is good enough.The sentence allows for multiple explanations including that one first sight they are not related.
Perhaps they are trying to emphasize that until further examination they cannot confirm they are related or not.
So what's the big expectation for?
Did you ever think that after having spotted almost 400 objects from satellites they wouldn't ever manage to pull something up?
There is a possibility however that the currents in the region are simply gathering garbage thrown out of ships.And maybe those objects were there for years...I heard one of the objects has already been recognized. and it was nothing else but a fishing buoy

[GreekIslandGirl]

(Just to sum up for my own benefit.)

The failure to find debris means, either:

1. Nobody really knows where the plane *landed* (stupidity).
2. They know, but don't want to find any give-away signs too soon (cover-up).

- Even if or when they do find debris, will we ever be told the truth as to whether it was hijacked/shot down or subject to forces beyond our control?