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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:42 pm

Linichka wrote:Paphitis, I noticed your other post lauding CNN's coverage of this story, and thought I would note that I have preferred your own accounts here, reporting on the reporting and offering your own learned observations. Thank you.


Thank you Linichka!

I have tried to keep it very simple and real. There really is no point in doing anything else.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:45 pm

HMAS Toowommba is cruising towards ADV Ocean Shield at 28 knots.

My guess is that it is going to pick up the Oil Sample and head back to Garden Island where they can analyze it. It will be some days before we find out more about this oil.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:51 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:He said two litres of oil were found by Australian vessel Ocean Shield i



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol:
:lol:

And it did stay there waiting for them for one month inside that huge washing machine called Indian Ocean


You're so dumb!

They clearly stated they had found an oil slick and had picked up a 2 liter sample for testing and analysis.

They never said anything less or beyond this.

Vlaka! Learn some English!



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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:16 pm

For the malaka of the forum who has not even read GIG's link before opening his filthy mouth.

GIG’s Link

http://news.sky.com/story/1241978/mini- ... lick-found

wrote: Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, leading the search, told a news conference an oil slick had been found within the current search zone of the southern Indian Ocean.

Speaking at a press conference in Perth, he said: "We haven't had a single detection in six days so I guess it's time to go underwater."

Mr Houston cautioned that the use of unmanned submarine, Bluefin-21, should not raise hopes that debris from the aircraft will be found.
Pilot and captain Flight Lieutenant McAlevey, and flight engineer Poole look from the cockpit of a RNZAF P-3K2 Orion aircraft during the search over the southern Indian Ocean for missing flight MH370. Crew members look out from the cockpit of a P-3K2 Orion aircraft

"Again, I emphasise that this will be a slow process," he said.

He said two litres of oil were found by Australian vessel Ocean Shield in the area where four "pings" possibly from a black box recorder were detected last week.

The oil is being examined to see if it is aviation fuel, but that process could take several days.

The slick was found 5,500 metres from where the possible signals were detected.
HMS Echo HMS Echo is helping in the search

Eleven military aircraft, one civil aircraft and 15 ships are scouring an area of more than 18,400 square miles (47,600 square km) in today's search.

The centre of the search zone is around 1,400 miles (2,200km) northwest of Perth on the western coast of Australia.

Ocean Shield will stop using its Towed Pinger Locator to try to locate the Boeing 777’s black boxes later today.

The submarine will then be deployed from the vessel.
Bluefin 21, the Artemis AUV, is hoisted back on board the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield after a buoyancy test in the southern Indian Ocean during the continuing search for missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 Bluefin-21 was used to find the Air France plane that crashed in 2009

Each of its missions will take 24 hours and the first will cover an area 5km by 8km, Mr Houston said.

The US-manufactured submarine, a 16.2ft (4.93m) long sonar device, can operate at a depth of up to 14,700ft (4,500m), roughly the depth of the ocean floor where the "pings" were detected.

There are fears the plane's black boxes have now stopped transmitting signals, as the batteries last around a month and the plane disappeared more than five weeks ago.

Bad weather is expected to hit the search area this week, making the search more difficult.

The jet, which was carrying 239 people, vanished while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.


Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, leading the search, told a news conference an oil slick had been found within the current search zone of the southern Indian Ocean.

Speaking at a press conference in Perth, he said: "We haven't had a single detection in six days so I guess it's time to go underwater."

Mr Houston cautioned that the use of unmanned submarine, Bluefin-21, should not raise hopes that debris from the aircraft will be found.
Pilot and captain Flight Lieutenant McAlevey, and flight engineer Poole look from the cockpit of a RNZAF P-3K2 Orion aircraft during the search over the southern Indian Ocean for missing flight MH370. Crew members look out from the cockpit of a P-3K2 Orion aircraft

"Again, I emphasise that this will be a slow process," he said.

He said two litres of oil were found by Australian vessel Ocean Shield in the area where four "pings" possibly from a black box recorder were detected last week.

The oil is being examined to see if it is aviation fuel, but that process could take several days.

The slick was found 5,500 metres from where the possible signals were detected.
HMS Echo HMS Echo is helping in the search

Eleven military aircraft, one civil aircraft and 15 ships are scouring an area of more than 18,400 square miles (47,600 square km) in today's search.

The centre of the search zone is around 1,400 miles (2,200km) northwest of Perth on the western coast of Australia.

Ocean Shield will stop using its Towed Pinger Locator to try to locate the Boeing 777’s black boxes later today.

The submarine will then be deployed from the vessel.
Bluefin 21, the Artemis AUV, is hoisted back on board the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield after a buoyancy test in the southern Indian Ocean during the continuing search for missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 Bluefin-21 was used to find the Air France plane that crashed in 2009

Each of its missions will take 24 hours and the first will cover an area 5km by 8km, Mr Houston said.

The US-manufactured submarine, a 16.2ft (4.93m) long sonar device, can operate at a depth of up to 14,700ft (4,500m), roughly the depth of the ocean floor where the "pings" were detected.

There are fears the plane's black boxes have now stopped transmitting signals, as the batteries last around a month and the plane disappeared more than five weeks ago.

Bad weather is expected to hit the search area this week, making the search more difficult.

The jet, which was carrying 239 people, vanished while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:07 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'm losing track of events.

- Can we make a list of everything we know or is confirmed, so far?

So far:

1. The flight was deliberately diverted.

2. Its communication systems manually switched off.


3. No new electronic pings have been heard since April 8th (and even those were unconfirmed as genuine).


4. Revealed that "experts" are no longer certain whether the plane had run out of fuel or not.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:15 pm

Weren't their estimates on the crash-landing site based on accurate fuel consumption/expiration data?
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:16 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'm losing track of events.

- Can we make a list of everything we know or is confirmed, so far?

So far:

1. The flight was deliberately diverted.

2. Its communication systems manually switched off.


3. No new electronic pings have been heard since April 8th (and even those were unconfirmed as genuine).


4. Revealed that "experts" are no longer certain whether the plane had run out of fuel or not.


They have what is called "most likely causes". In other words, investigators have a number of scenarios, one which is of course deliberate ditching into the ocean. The extremity of the search activists in the Southern Ocean is where Aircraft Performance Analysts had calculated as the extremity of the aircraft's range under the most likely of aircraft configuration or the last known configuration when it was list from Primary Radar.

They work back from there exhausting all possibilities along the Inmarsat handshake arc. That is all they can do.

It is unlikely the aircraft had run out of fuel at the current most probable crash site unless the aircraft was thrashed at M0.92 or was at some ridiculous altitude like at 1000 FT or something. All these things are possibilities.

They never said that the aircraft had run out of fuel but stated that under normal flight configurations it may have gone as far as the Southern Indian Ocean.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:17 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Weren't their estimates on the crash-landing site based on accurate fuel consumption/expiration data?


Yes it was but they were never sure or certain of the aircraft's configuration, speed or altitude all of which can drastically alter fuel consumption and range.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:20 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:For the malaka of the forum who has not even read GIG's link before opening his filthy mouth.

GIG’s Link

http://news.sky.com/story/1241978/mini- ... lick-found

wrote: Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, leading the search, told a news conference an oil slick had been found within the current search zone of the southern Indian Ocean.

Speaking at a press conference in Perth, he said: "We haven't had a single detection in six days so I guess it's time to go underwater."

Mr Houston cautioned that the use of unmanned submarine, Bluefin-21, should not raise hopes that debris from the aircraft will be found.
Pilot and captain Flight Lieutenant McAlevey, and flight engineer Poole look from the cockpit of a RNZAF P-3K2 Orion aircraft during the search over the southern Indian Ocean for missing flight MH370. Crew members look out from the cockpit of a P-3K2 Orion aircraft

"Again, I emphasise that this will be a slow process," he said.

He said two litres of oil were found by Australian vessel Ocean Shield in the area where four "pings" possibly from a black box recorder were detected last week.

The oil is being examined to see if it is aviation fuel, but that process could take several days.

The slick was found 5,500 metres from where the possible signals were detected.
HMS Echo HMS Echo is helping in the search

Eleven military aircraft, one civil aircraft and 15 ships are scouring an area of more than 18,400 square miles (47,600 square km) in today's search.

The centre of the search zone is around 1,400 miles (2,200km) northwest of Perth on the western coast of Australia.

Ocean Shield will stop using its Towed Pinger Locator to try to locate the Boeing 777’s black boxes later today.

The submarine will then be deployed from the vessel.
Bluefin 21, the Artemis AUV, is hoisted back on board the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield after a buoyancy test in the southern Indian Ocean during the continuing search for missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 Bluefin-21 was used to find the Air France plane that crashed in 2009

Each of its missions will take 24 hours and the first will cover an area 5km by 8km, Mr Houston said.

The US-manufactured submarine, a 16.2ft (4.93m) long sonar device, can operate at a depth of up to 14,700ft (4,500m), roughly the depth of the ocean floor where the "pings" were detected.

There are fears the plane's black boxes have now stopped transmitting signals, as the batteries last around a month and the plane disappeared more than five weeks ago.

Bad weather is expected to hit the search area this week, making the search more difficult.

The jet, which was carrying 239 people, vanished while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.


Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, leading the search, told a news conference an oil slick had been found within the current search zone of the southern Indian Ocean.

Speaking at a press conference in Perth, he said: "We haven't had a single detection in six days so I guess it's time to go underwater."

Mr Houston cautioned that the use of unmanned submarine, Bluefin-21, should not raise hopes that debris from the aircraft will be found.
Pilot and captain Flight Lieutenant McAlevey, and flight engineer Poole look from the cockpit of a RNZAF P-3K2 Orion aircraft during the search over the southern Indian Ocean for missing flight MH370. Crew members look out from the cockpit of a P-3K2 Orion aircraft

"Again, I emphasise that this will be a slow process," he said.

He said two litres of oil were found by Australian vessel Ocean Shield in the area where four "pings" possibly from a black box recorder were detected last week.

The oil is being examined to see if it is aviation fuel, but that process could take several days.

The slick was found 5,500 metres from where the possible signals were detected.
HMS Echo HMS Echo is helping in the search

Eleven military aircraft, one civil aircraft and 15 ships are scouring an area of more than 18,400 square miles (47,600 square km) in today's search.

The centre of the search zone is around 1,400 miles (2,200km) northwest of Perth on the western coast of Australia.

Ocean Shield will stop using its Towed Pinger Locator to try to locate the Boeing 777’s black boxes later today.

The submarine will then be deployed from the vessel.
Bluefin 21, the Artemis AUV, is hoisted back on board the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield after a buoyancy test in the southern Indian Ocean during the continuing search for missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 Bluefin-21 was used to find the Air France plane that crashed in 2009

Each of its missions will take 24 hours and the first will cover an area 5km by 8km, Mr Houston said.

The US-manufactured submarine, a 16.2ft (4.93m) long sonar device, can operate at a depth of up to 14,700ft (4,500m), roughly the depth of the ocean floor where the "pings" were detected.

There are fears the plane's black boxes have now stopped transmitting signals, as the batteries last around a month and the plane disappeared more than five weeks ago.

Bad weather is expected to hit the search area this week, making the search more difficult.

The jet, which was carrying 239 people, vanished while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.



That's because there has been a lot of nonsense from the media such as the above report just like there is a lot more nonsense from you. I have seen the press conference from Angus Houston, whom I have met a few times and respect very much, who clearly stated that there is an oil slick and they have collected 2L for analysis and testing.

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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:23 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
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GreekIslandGirl wrote:I'm losing track of events.

- Can we make a list of everything we know or is confirmed, so far?

So far:

1. The flight was deliberately diverted.

2. Its communication systems manually switched off.


3. No new electronic pings have been heard since April 8th (and even those were unconfirmed as genuine).


4. Revealed that "experts" are no longer certain whether the plane had run out of fuel or not.


5. Over 5 weeks later, still no debris found.
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