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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:32 pm

Any info as to why the previous guy John Young was replaced with this retired General Houston?
I will even accept info from you Paphitis.
I liked John Young. He was holding press conferences with nice presentations.
Ever since this Houston got over, hmmm... nothing other than dry announcements

http://www.amsa.gov.au/media/incidents/mh370-search.asp
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:36 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:The black box pingers story was necessary to conclude the matter at this precise ending with just circumstantial evidence.
In the next few days they will confirm those oils were from an "aircraft" without knowing which type of aircraft :wink:
The next step is to add more such circumstantial evidence and they will do that slowly so that the masses digest it.
I wonder what will be the next one....


I don't know how they can make such a claim with a straight face that the so called oil sleek is jet fuel when there are no aircraft parts floating in the same vicinity, but I'm afraid they will do as you have suggested to complete the whole MH370 saga with everything based on phantom evidence.


What's also questionable is why they did not make so much fuss the previous time they found similar sliks?
Unless someone told them "hey don't miss ANY circumstantial evidence again. We need all you can find to feed the masses until they digest it". :wink:


They might now throw one or two aircraft seat cushions into the sea in the vicinity of the so-called oil sleek to make the claim that they have found parts of the missing aircraft, and then claim that all the dead bodies has been eaten by the sharks, as to the reason why there are no bodies floating anywhere.


I kind of suspected that. :wink: Plus maybe some terrible quality underwater pictures showing "man made" objects :lol:
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:45 pm

Linichka wrote:Paphitis, I noticed your other post lauding CNN's coverage of this story, and thought I would note that I have preferred your own accounts here, reporting on the reporting and offering your own learned observations. Thank you.


lol, cheers.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:03 pm

I think it’s time they started designing planes that cannot be hijacked. You can achieve this by making the pilot’s cabin inaccessible from the passenger’s area.

A small slot can allow trays of food and other small objects to be passed to the pilots during a flight.

Any threats of harming crew or passengers should be completely ignored by pilots whose emergency reaction should only be the emergency landing to the closest port.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Kikapu » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:21 pm

Get Real! wrote:I think it’s time they started designing planes that cannot be hijacked. You can achieve this by making the pilot’s cabin inaccessible from the passenger’s area.

A small slot can allow trays of food and other small objects to be passed to the pilots during a flight.

Any threats of harming crew or passengers should be completely ignored by pilots whose emergency reaction should only be the emergency landing to the closest port.


And the pilots can have a special toilet they can use while flying without leaving their seats, just like astronauts. :wink:
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:48 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I think it’s time they started designing planes that cannot be hijacked. You can achieve this by making the pilot’s cabin inaccessible from the passenger’s area.

A small slot can allow trays of food and other small objects to be passed to the pilots during a flight.

Any threats of harming crew or passengers should be completely ignored by pilots whose emergency reaction should only be the emergency landing to the closest port.


And the pilots can have a special toilet they can use while flying without leaving their seats, just like astronauts. :wink:

There’s nothing wrong with pilots having their own little toilet incorporated somewhere in the new cabin design.

It’s obvious that the world needs to move on from the traditional 1940s plane designs and prepare for a hijack-free future where eventually computers will make human pilots obsolete.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:21 pm

...funny, the same thought crossed my mind.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:I think it’s time they started designing planes that cannot be hijacked. You can achieve this by making the pilot’s cabin inaccessible from the passenger’s area.

A small slot can allow trays of food and other small objects to be passed to the pilots during a flight.

Any threats of harming crew or passengers should be completely ignored by pilots whose emergency reaction should only be the emergency landing to the closest port.


I could be wrong but I think I 've read somewhere the cockpit doors are now (?) been made in such a way that nobody can get in unless they punch some secret codes on a controller. Also cabin crew is trained to communicate with the cockpit every say 15-20 minutes to confirm everything is ok.

Regardless of that....
The more I read about those beacons the more I am convinced they are totally useless in help finding a plane that crashed in the sea.
It's a totally obsolete technology, and it proved to be so from the times of the Air France crash.
Something much more effective is required.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:32 am

Kikapu wrote:
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If the "oil" sleek discovered is for real and not a phantom one like everything else so far, it is more than likely an oil tanker cleaned out its tanks in the open seas. A very common practice.

It can hardly be a Jet fuel, since any leftover jet fuel on MH370 would have evaporated from the ocean surface in the last month or so in the Southern Indian Ocean's heat, assuming there even be a sleek to speak of from the little fuel the MH370 had left aboard. Further more, where there is an oil sleek, there should be broken plane parts floating on the water at the same vicinity, so where is the debris from MH370? I don't think there would be that much engine oil or Hydraulic fluid on the Boeing 777 to create such a sleek from the depths of 4500m.


They clearly stated that they detected an oil slick and if you check Marine Traffic you will see that the nearest ships are thousands of kms away. The only ships in the area are ADV Ocean Shield and HMS Echo.

They also said that the slick was down sea from the pings and that they will analyze a sample to ascertain its origins.


But if it's only a very small oil sleek, it could have come from any one of the many search ships in the area when the auto pumps pump out their bilges. :idea:


I don't know where you get this from.

The Authorities never mentioned how big or small the oil slick was. It was obviously big enough to warrant closer inspection and for them to collect a sample and investigate its origins. This is one of the last rolls of the dice unfortunately, so let's hope there is a connection to MH370 because this will be a solid indication about the validity of the Black Box detections and the location of MH370.
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Re: What happened to flight MH370?

Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:38 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:For the malaka of the forum who has not even read GIG's link before opening his filthy mouth.

GIG’s Link

http://news.sky.com/story/1241978/mini- ... lick-found

wrote: Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, leading the search, told a news conference an oil slick had been found within the current search zone of the southern Indian Ocean.

Speaking at a press conference in Perth, he said: "We haven't had a single detection in six days so I guess it's time to go underwater."

Mr Houston cautioned that the use of unmanned submarine, Bluefin-21, should not raise hopes that debris from the aircraft will be found.
Pilot and captain Flight Lieutenant McAlevey, and flight engineer Poole look from the cockpit of a RNZAF P-3K2 Orion aircraft during the search over the southern Indian Ocean for missing flight MH370. Crew members look out from the cockpit of a P-3K2 Orion aircraft

"Again, I emphasise that this will be a slow process," he said.

He said two litres of oil were found by Australian vessel Ocean Shield in the area where four "pings" possibly from a black box recorder were detected last week.

The oil is being examined to see if it is aviation fuel, but that process could take several days.

The slick was found 5,500 metres from where the possible signals were detected.
HMS Echo HMS Echo is helping in the search

Eleven military aircraft, one civil aircraft and 15 ships are scouring an area of more than 18,400 square miles (47,600 square km) in today's search.

The centre of the search zone is around 1,400 miles (2,200km) northwest of Perth on the western coast of Australia.

Ocean Shield will stop using its Towed Pinger Locator to try to locate the Boeing 777’s black boxes later today.

The submarine will then be deployed from the vessel.
Bluefin 21, the Artemis AUV, is hoisted back on board the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield after a buoyancy test in the southern Indian Ocean during the continuing search for missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 Bluefin-21 was used to find the Air France plane that crashed in 2009

Each of its missions will take 24 hours and the first will cover an area 5km by 8km, Mr Houston said.

The US-manufactured submarine, a 16.2ft (4.93m) long sonar device, can operate at a depth of up to 14,700ft (4,500m), roughly the depth of the ocean floor where the "pings" were detected.

There are fears the plane's black boxes have now stopped transmitting signals, as the batteries last around a month and the plane disappeared more than five weeks ago.

Bad weather is expected to hit the search area this week, making the search more difficult.

The jet, which was carrying 239 people, vanished while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.


Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, leading the search, told a news conference an oil slick had been found within the current search zone of the southern Indian Ocean.

Speaking at a press conference in Perth, he said: "We haven't had a single detection in six days so I guess it's time to go underwater."

Mr Houston cautioned that the use of unmanned submarine, Bluefin-21, should not raise hopes that debris from the aircraft will be found.
Pilot and captain Flight Lieutenant McAlevey, and flight engineer Poole look from the cockpit of a RNZAF P-3K2 Orion aircraft during the search over the southern Indian Ocean for missing flight MH370. Crew members look out from the cockpit of a P-3K2 Orion aircraft

"Again, I emphasise that this will be a slow process," he said.

He said two litres of oil were found by Australian vessel Ocean Shield in the area where four "pings" possibly from a black box recorder were detected last week.

The oil is being examined to see if it is aviation fuel, but that process could take several days.

The slick was found 5,500 metres from where the possible signals were detected.
HMS Echo HMS Echo is helping in the search

Eleven military aircraft, one civil aircraft and 15 ships are scouring an area of more than 18,400 square miles (47,600 square km) in today's search.

The centre of the search zone is around 1,400 miles (2,200km) northwest of Perth on the western coast of Australia.

Ocean Shield will stop using its Towed Pinger Locator to try to locate the Boeing 777’s black boxes later today.

The submarine will then be deployed from the vessel.
Bluefin 21, the Artemis AUV, is hoisted back on board the Australian Defence Vessel Ocean Shield after a buoyancy test in the southern Indian Ocean during the continuing search for missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 Bluefin-21 was used to find the Air France plane that crashed in 2009

Each of its missions will take 24 hours and the first will cover an area 5km by 8km, Mr Houston said.

The US-manufactured submarine, a 16.2ft (4.93m) long sonar device, can operate at a depth of up to 14,700ft (4,500m), roughly the depth of the ocean floor where the "pings" were detected.

There are fears the plane's black boxes have now stopped transmitting signals, as the batteries last around a month and the plane disappeared more than five weeks ago.

Bad weather is expected to hit the search area this week, making the search more difficult.

The jet, which was carrying 239 people, vanished while flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on March 8.



That's because there has been a lot of nonsense from the media such as the above report just like there is a lot more nonsense from you. I have seen the press conference from Angus Houston, whom I have met a few times and respect very much, who clearly stated that there is an oil slick and they have collected 2L for analysis and testing.

Vlaka!


Reh ILITHIE read your own reply (copied below) on my copy-pasting from GIG's link. What's GIG's link got to do with my English?
Where was your link on the first place? hmm... nowhere?

wrote: You're so dumb!

They clearly stated they had found an oil slick and had picked up a 2 liter sample for testing and analysis.

They never said anything less or beyond this.

Vlaka! Learn some English!


You are all over the place. It was you that stated that I replied to "g"IG's link in a rude manner and I certainly had no idea what you were on about. Now you say I didn't. Really confused with you.

I suggest you go to the Kafeneio and talk your nonsense to your heart's content there!
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