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[Pyrpolizer]

Paphitis do you remember your excitement when they found that slick telling us how fast the HMAS Toshiba or whatever was running to take it for analysis running as fast as what 47(?) knots then delivering the stuff to some chopper etc etc?
When all evidence and logical arguments pointed to the impossibility of the fact?

In fact you are all but excitements even from the times the satellites were spotting erm... ..... garbage.

Of course I was excited. But not at any stage did I say that it was Jet Fuel.

All I said is that it might be and it will need to be analyzed.

I also like seeing the ADF doing a good job. The world is really noticing their professionalism and they have done a great job.

Whether they find it or not, I don't believe anyone can find any flaws with the way the Aussies have handled this difficult task.

Even spotting garbage from space is pretty damn impressive. This country never ceases to amaze me. Always they are capable of miracles so don't be too surprised if they find MH370.

All Ok about that, but concentrate on your excitement! You couldn't hide the fact that you were so happy and actually believing it should be from MH370 otherwise they wouldn't collect it on the first place.

[Pyrpolizer]

The only evidence to support the conclusions aside from common sense, are the Inmarsat Handshake Pings and the calculations from Aircraft Performance Analysts and Performance Engineers.

Which are highly disputed and for which the Malaysian Government will eventually be sued.

http://marvinsthinking.blogspot.com/201 ... ocean.html

Sued for what?

No the Inmarsat data is not disputed by experts from at least a dozen countries including China.

It's the conclusions from those data that are disputed. And you will see it soon in courts when the Malaysian Government is sued on behalf of the families.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis do you remember your excitement when they found that slick telling us how fast the HMAS Toshiba or whatever was running to take it for analysis running as fast as what 47(?) knots then delivering the stuff to some chopper etc etc?
When all evidence and logical arguments pointed to the impossibility of the fact?

In fact you are all but excitements even from the times the satellites were spotting erm... ..... garbage.

Of course I was excited. But not at any stage did I say that it was Jet Fuel.

All I said is that it might be and it will need to be analyzed.

I also like seeing the ADF doing a good job. The world is really noticing their professionalism and they have done a great job.

Whether they find it or not, I don't believe anyone can find any flaws with the way the Aussies have handled this difficult task.

Even spotting garbage from space is pretty damn impressive. This country never ceases to amaze me. Always they are capable of miracles so don't be too surprised if they find MH370.

All Ok about that, but concentrate on your excitement! You couldn't hide the fact that you were so happy and actually believing it should be from MH370 otherwise they wouldn't collect it on the first place.

Pyro,

The most exciting lead so far is the 4 detections which are highly likely to be from the Black Box. There are still some big challenges.

Considering the progress that has been made over the last month, it is easy to be excited about the ingenuity from so many countries who have come together to search for MH370.

The Malaysians could have handled things a bit better but I can't blame them. Imagine if Cyprus was faced with this! We would have made fools of ourselves 100%

Australia's handling has been excellent. I am very proud of the ADF's efforts. I also feel comfort how Government Agencies such as AMSA and JACC have handled this most unusual and extremely difficult situation. It really say's a lot about Australia.

I just hope they can find MH370. It is important for everyone, including the relatives. But even if that does not happen, the Australians have really thrown everything at it. They have been cautious, careful, and their communications were always sincere, and to the point!

And yes, it is pretty exciting seeing HMAS Toowoomba in full flight doing their job so professionally in order to get the Oil to the mainland.

[Paphitis]

The only evidence to support the conclusions aside from common sense, are the Inmarsat Handshake Pings and the calculations from Aircraft Performance Analysts and Performance Engineers.

Which are highly disputed and for which the Malaysian Government will eventually be sued.

http://marvinsthinking.blogspot.com/201 ... ocean.html

Sued for what?

No the Inmarsat data is not disputed by experts from at least a dozen countries including China.

It's the conclusions from those data that are disputed. And you will see it soon in courts when the Malaysian Government is sued on behalf of the families.

The data has already been analyzed by several countries such as the US, Australia, UK and China. They all find the data as extremely credible!

[Kikapu]

I also like seeing the ADF doing a good job. The world is really noticing their professionalism and they have done a great job.

Whether they find it or not, I don't believe anyone can find any flaws with the way the Aussies have handled this difficult task.

Even spotting garbage from space is pretty damn impressive. This country never ceases to amaze me. Always they are capable of miracles so don't be too surprised if they find MH370.

No one for a minute said anything negative against the men and women in Australian uniform in performing their jobs. They followed orders and gave it their all. It's the people at the top in the government is where my suspicions are.

And here I will make a prediction, that the Aussies will find the MH370 in pieces right about where they think it is right now in the next few months, but ONLY if indeed it was shot down by the Americans near Diego Garcia. For all we know, the last 4 weeks has been designed to lay the seeds in the minds of everyone that the present search area to be the crash site, and soon, when it is announced that the search mission is over at full scale and it will be scaled back to bare minimum, all of the MH370 collected from another crash site will be brought and dumped to this "crash site", including the Black Boxes, but with a new data written over the old one, indicating the new crash site as the ONLY crash site. This still won't explain what happened in the air an hour after the MH370 took off from KL and then diverted to heading South West.

[Paphitis]

I also like seeing the ADF doing a good job. The world is really noticing their professionalism and they have done a great job.

Whether they find it or not, I don't believe anyone can find any flaws with the way the Aussies have handled this difficult task.

Even spotting garbage from space is pretty damn impressive. This country never ceases to amaze me. Always they are capable of miracles so don't be too surprised if they find MH370.

No one for a minute said anything negative against the men and women in Australian uniform in performing their jobs. They followed orders and gave it their all. It's the people at the top in the government is where my suspicions are.

And here I will make a prediction, that the Aussies will find the MH370 in pieces right about where they think it is right now in the next few months, but ONLY if indeed it was shot down by the Americans near Diego Garcia. For all we know, the last 4 weeks has been designed to lay the seeds in the minds of everyone that the present search area to be the crash site, and soon, when it is announced that the search mission is over at full scale and it will be scaled back to bare minimum, all of the MH370 collected from another crash site will be brought and dumped to this "crash site", including the Black Boxes, but with a new data written over the old one, indicating the new crash site as the ONLY crash site. This still won't explain what happened in the air an hour after the MH370 took off from KL and then diverted to heading South West.

I also believe the Australian Government has been very sincere at all levels and always willing to throw a massive amount of money and resources to the effort. They have worked very well with some 26 other countries that have contributed in some way.

Now, if MH370 was shot down, then clues will be found within the FDR. Surely they would not want to find it.

I also will go on record and state that I believe the Australians are very close to MH370. I say this because I personally believe they have detected the ELTs of the Black Box. I don't believe these sounds can be accurately duplicated. But, they are still a long way from finding MH370 some 4500m below the ocean. There is also a small chance that the detections were from another source so don't take this for a given.

The search is still extremely difficult. And if they find MH370, retrieval is also going to be a massive challenge but it is achievable!

[Pyrpolizer]

Let's not mess Cyprus in this, we might be a small country but we are at least smart enough to look into legal books and decide what to do.Cyprus would NEVER declare the plane crashed into some ocean and conclude that all passengers are dead without concrete evidence.
If one of her planes went missing and absolutely no country has clues or evidence as to where it is, Cyprus would simply go by the book, declare it missing, and I think within 30(?) days by international law, everybody is assumed dead and the relatives get compensated by insurance companies.
We wouldn't play it Gods, and we wouldn't draw conclusions that we couldn't support.

[Paphitis]

Let's not mess Cyprus in this, we might be a small country but we are at least smart enough to look into legal books and decide what to do.Cyprus would NEVER declare the plane crashed into some ocean and conclude that all passengers are dead without concrete evidence.
If one of her planes went missing and absolutely no country has clues or evidence as to where it is, Cyprus would simply go by the book, declare it missing, and I think within 30(?) days by international law, everybody is assumed dead and the relatives get compensated by insurance companies.
We wouldn't play it Gods, and we wouldn't draw conclusions that we couldn't support.

Sorry Pyro but if Cyprus or Greece were caught up in this in place of Malaysia, it would have been a debacle.

The biggest shame in MH370 is how Malaysia didn't hand over the entire operation to Australia from day 1. That was a big mistake!

Put it this way. I don't believe there are many countries in the world that would of come out of situation similar to this unscathed. So let's not be too harsh on the Malaysians either.

Perhaps only a handful of countries have the resources and ability to handle things like this.

[Pyrpolizer]

The only evidence to support the conclusions aside from common sense, are the Inmarsat Handshake Pings and the calculations from Aircraft Performance Analysts and Performance Engineers.

Which are highly disputed and for which the Malaysian Government will eventually be sued.

http://marvinsthinking.blogspot.com/201 ... ocean.html

Sued for what?

No the Inmarsat data is not disputed by experts from at least a dozen countries including China.

It's the conclusions from those data that are disputed. And you will see it soon in courts when the Malaysian Government is sued on behalf of the families.

The data has already been analyzed by several countries such as the US, Australia, UK and China. They all find the data as extremely credible!

Please please stop the assumptions.The data and the analyses themselves will have to be revealed in Court and then you will see how accurate they were.The data themselves left no possibility for scientific conclusions. AT BEST they would only prove a certain degree of probability nothing more than that.And if the probability was say 60% you will see what happens.

[Paphitis]

Please please stop the assumptions.The data and the analyses themselves will have to be revealed in Court and then you will see how accurate they were. AT BEST they would only prove a certain degree of probability nothing more than that.And if the probability was say 60% you will see what happens.

No they do not!

According to the regulations, the details of the investigation, including all data have to be tabled to the Aviation Regulator in Malaysia. It is up to the regulator to decide if there is a case to answer in court.

There is no court that can bypass the aviation regulator's jurisdiction.