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[Viewpoint]

The above GC mindset is frightening. Thank god for division.

the Tc should give everything back and stop holding the GC's property, country and national identity hostage to historical revisionism and endless Turkish negotiations.

Whats your mindset VP? that the GC's and TC's are twins from different mothers? whats your problem and your thanking Allah for the invasion, ethnic cleansing and theft of north Cyprus?

The fact that innocent people suffered in the past is regretful but your attitude and mindeset on this forum just reconfirms why it went so wrong and why you deserve the current division. You are not fit to share with us and it would place us in great danger if we were to agree to any of your stupid suggestions. You are the modern day eoka terrorist that should not be trusted.

[repulsewarrior]

The above GC mindset is frightening. Thank god for division.

the Tc should give everything back and stop holding the GC's property, country and national identity hostage to historical revisionism and endless Turkish negotiations.

Whats your mindset VP? that the GC's and TC's are twins from different mothers? whats your problem and your thanking Allah for the invasion, ethnic cleansing and theft of north Cyprus?

The fact that innocent people suffered in the past is regretful but your attitude and mindeset on this forum just reconfirms why it went so wrong and why you deserve the current division. You are not fit to share with us and it would place us in great danger if we were to agree to any of your stupid suggestions. You are the modern day eoka terrorist that should not be trusted.

with few words, vp, what kind of language is that? either way, "this" must stop, i would hope that it would be you who would choose to be not just civil, but helpful toward a cause, and that is one Cyprus, where at least the "Greeks", or the "Turks" are not in control.

...curious do you have a kind of a rubber stamp in your drawer, because suddenly Maximus gets to be everything and all, a reason to use the "Greek" word, as though all Greeks are "Greek"; i've read this before.

@Maximus, i have gone back to look to the root of vp's outburst, it seems that you are blameless, at least that your account of the truth is no less realistic as Erolz, i may say that kuru and the Beeber really know how to wind up a crowd, and so well said. (@vp, and you with your knickers on, just wants to play the same old game, with the same old boys (:a smiley face for bored))

My view is consistent with what was happening in the region at the time.The ottomans were being deported from the lands that they occupied to free the people and the countries they oppressed and claimed ownership of. They were being repatriated to modern day Turkey by Britain and France but this did not happen in Cyprus and its the only anomaly. The TC's were eventually used as pawns instead of being tucked away safe and sound in modern day Turkey. Where are the "Turkish Egyptians" or the "Turkish Israelis", or the "Turkish Syrians" or the "Turkish Iraqis" and the "Turkish Palestinians" to form 'equal partnerships' and land share in the governments of these respective countries?What the Tc's and Turkey should do today in my opinion, is to return everything they have stolen and accept that they are an ethnic minority in a democratic Cyprus and be free. alternatively, they can use their "GC" European or Turkish passports and live elsewhere, to stop harassing the GC's and leave them alone..

...would you accept a Unitary State, where within there is another level of Government, so that, not just as Individuals, but as Persons, there is representation that serves Cypriots as Citizens, and as electors closer to their tax dollars; what is a BBF? and to stay on topic, would you be grateful for the privilege to visit a mosque, as i'm sure the mullah felt being welcomed in a church; is this the Cypriot way?

and i hope to read vp's reply after yours...

[Maximus]

The above GC mindset is frightening. Thank god for division.

the Tc should give everything back and stop holding the GC's property, country and national identity hostage to historical revisionism and endless Turkish negotiations.

Whats your mindset VP? that the GC's and TC's are twins from different mothers? whats your problem and your thanking Allah for the invasion, ethnic cleansing and theft of north Cyprus?

The fact that innocent people suffered in the past is regretful but your attitude and mindeset on this forum just reconfirms why it went so wrong and why you deserve the current division. You are not fit to share with us and it would place us in great danger if we were to agree to any of your stupid suggestions. You are the modern day eoka terrorist that should not be trusted.

But you have not answered anything. What is Turkeys and the TCs problem? The reconciliation process is to put right all those things that were and are wrong in Cyprus today. dont you want peace?

Reconcile-
give back all the property that is Turkish controlled and does not belong to Turkey or the TC's.
Restore all historical Cypriot monuments and heritage that has been deliberately and systematically destroyed.
remove that tribal picture from the mountain.
accept democracy and your communities minority status in Cyprus or depart,
accept that the settlers will be leaving the island too,
accept the same human rights as everyone else otherwise,
accept that Cyprus is in the EU and the Gc's and Christian orthodoxy is the majority and native to Cyprus
accept that your side are the invaders, oppressors and terrorists in Cyprus.
accept that there is no recognition for crimes.
accept that the Turkish army has to depart and never return
pay that $1.3 billion electricity bill from the RoC,

and you call me a terrorist for looking for legal and morally correct solutions to the problems in Cyprus?

VP, you are a modern day example of why the ottoman subjects were escorted out of the lands that they occupied. You (like them) live in cloud cuckoo land and your mind set is a danger to yourself and others who are not Turkish enough round you. what is your problem with the GC's eh?

[Maximus]

Repulse,

VP is calling me a terrorist while he supports Turkey's occupation and the looting of Cyprus and while the TMT try to prevent an Easter service.

[Lordo]

i can see you is havin a little difficulty understandin a very simple idea. you will have no say about the north. get it. no say means no say. you will have all rights in the south and thats it. till that is the tcs vote in the north to change it. till then nooooooooooooooooooo saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy

now repeat after me.

no say.

come on you know you can do it.

[Viewpoint]

The above GC mindset is frightening. Thank god for division.

the Tc should give everything back and stop holding the GC's property, country and national identity hostage to historical revisionism and endless Turkish negotiations.

Whats your mindset VP? that the GC's and TC's are twins from different mothers? whats your problem and your thanking Allah for the invasion, ethnic cleansing and theft of north Cyprus?

The fact that innocent people suffered in the past is regretful but your attitude and mindeset on this forum just reconfirms why it went so wrong and why you deserve the current division. You are not fit to share with us and it would place us in great danger if we were to agree to any of your stupid suggestions. You are the modern day eoka terrorist that should not be trusted.

But you have not answered anything. What is Turkeys and the TCs problem? The reconciliation process is to put right all those things that were and are wrong in Cyprus today. dont you want peace?

Reconcile-
give back all the property that is Turkish controlled and does not belong to Turkey or the TC's.
Restore all historical Cypriot monuments and heritage that has been deliberately and systematically destroyed.
remove that tribal picture from the mountain.
accept democracy and your communities minority status in Cyprus or depart,
accept that the settlers will be leaving the island too,
accept the same human rights as everyone else otherwise,
accept that Cyprus is in the EU and the Gc's and Christian orthodoxy is the majority and native to Cyprus
accept that your side are the invaders, oppressors and terrorists in Cyprus.
accept that there is no recognition for crimes.
accept that the Turkish army has to depart and never return
pay that $1.3 billion electricity bill from the RoC,

and you call me a terrorist for looking for legal and morally correct solutions to the problems in Cyprus?

VP, you are a modern day example of why the ottoman subjects were escorted out of the lands that they occupied. You (like them) live in cloud cuckoo land and your mind set is a danger to yourself and others who are not Turkish enough round you. what is your problem with the GC's eh?

Maximus demands yet again but has great difficulty comprehending that he does not call the shots, he can demand all he wants but he will never get all of the list above, the North was lost in 1974 and will never be returned to him on a plate. The best he can hope for is a BBF with political equality of the two states under a federal structure with property rights restored along the parameters we have discussed many times. All armies will leave, settlers will go from both sides, but its a partnership deal not a majority minority unitary state....this was not the case in 1960 nor will it be if we ever agree a new agreement, you must understand this because it looks like your leaders have because thats what they are negotiating today in 2014.

[Maximus]

so how will your partnership state work VP once Turkey has left and the TC's have returned practically everything in the north to the GC's?

remember, Cyprus is in the EU and will have one international personality.

[Viewpoint]

The above GC mindset is frightening. Thank god for division.

the Tc should give everything back and stop holding the GC's property, country and national identity hostage to historical revisionism and endless Turkish negotiations.

Whats your mindset VP? that the GC's and TC's are twins from different mothers? whats your problem and your thanking Allah for the invasion, ethnic cleansing and theft of north Cyprus?

The fact that innocent people suffered in the past is regretful but your attitude and mindeset on this forum just reconfirms why it went so wrong and why you deserve the current division. You are not fit to share with us and it would place us in great danger if we were to agree to any of your stupid suggestions. You are the modern day eoka terrorist that should not be trusted.

with few words, vp, what kind of language is that? either way, "this" must stop, i would hope that it would be you who would choose to be not just civil, but helpful toward a cause, and that is one Cyprus, where at least the "Greeks", or the "Turks" are not in control.

...curious do you have a kind of a rubber stamp in your drawer, because suddenly Maximus gets to be everything and all, a reason to use the "Greek" word, as though all Greeks are "Greek"; i've read this before.

@Maximus, i have gone back to look to the root of vp's outburst, it seems that you are blameless, at least that your account of the truth is no less realistic as Erolz, i may say that kuru and the Beeber really know how to wind up a crowd, and so well said. (@vp, and you with your knickers on, just wants to play the same old game, with the same old boys (:a smiley face for bored))

My view is consistent with what was happening in the region at the time.The ottomans were being deported from the lands that they occupied to free the people and the countries they oppressed and claimed ownership of. They were being repatriated to modern day Turkey by Britain and France but this did not happen in Cyprus and its the only anomaly. The TC's were eventually used as pawns instead of being tucked away safe and sound in modern day Turkey. Where are the "Turkish Egyptians" or the "Turkish Israelis", or the "Turkish Syrians" or the "Turkish Iraqis" and the "Turkish Palestinians" to form 'equal partnerships' and land share in the governments of these respective countries?What the Tc's and Turkey should do today in my opinion, is to return everything they have stolen and accept that they are an ethnic minority in a democratic Cyprus and be free. alternatively, they can use their "GC" European or Turkish passports and live elsewhere, to stop harassing the GC's and leave them alone..

...would you accept a Unitary State, where within there is another level of Government, so that, not just as Individuals, but as Persons, there is representation that serves Cypriots as Citizens, and as electors closer to their tax dollars; what is a BBF? and to stay on topic, would you be grateful for the privilege to visit a mosque, as i'm sure the mullah felt being welcomed in a church; is this the Cypriot way?

and i hope to read vp's reply after yours...

When you went back and checked maximums posts can you honestly say what he demands is condusive to bring about a solution? his extremist fascist ignorant eoka minded views are what has brought on my opinion that he is nothing more that a modern day ekoa terrorist thug who cannot and should never be trusted. Can you plase confirm if the majority of people in South Cyprus are like Maximus? and that his views are widespread and this is what we would face in a united Cyprus? do enlighten us repulse.

[Viewpoint]

so how will your partnership state work VP once Turkey has left and the TC's have returned practically everything in the north to the GC's?

remember, Cyprus is in the EU and will have one international personality.

Do you know the difference between soverignty and personal property rights, GCs having property right in the norht does chnage the fact that the TCs will administer the North state. How our pertnership Works depends on whether you stick to your part of the deal and how effective the guarantees are .

[Maximus]

so how will your partnership state work VP once Turkey has left and the TC's have returned practically everything in the north to the GC's?

remember, Cyprus is in the EU and will have one international personality.

Do you know the difference between soverignty and personal property rights, GCs having property right in the norht does chnage the fact that the TCs will administer the North state. How our pertnership Works depends on whether you stick to your part of the deal and how effective the guarantees are .

this is not what I am asking though is it?

so Turkey is gone and the Tc's have returned practically all of the north back to the GC's, now how does your partnership state work?