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Re: Eroglu is an - "Obstacle to Peace"

Postby erolz66 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:31 pm

boulio wrote: the gc oppose a turkish "federation"which always is a confederation,the two states will have there duties which each states fullfills and the federal govt will have there duties as well which the will fullfill.


As I have said before I do not give a toss about labels and arguments about federation, co-federation or whatever you want to call it. For me the 'acid test' is simple. If the structure would give TC the right and means to stop the imposition off something like ENOSIS on them against their will in their own shared homeland then its good enough for me and if it would not then its not. Call it whatever you like. Does your proposed solution meet my acid test or not ? That is all I need to know.
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Re: Eroglu is an - "Obstacle to Peace"

Postby boulio » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:23 pm

erolz66 wrote:
boulio wrote: the gc oppose a turkish "federation"which always is a confederation,the two states will have there duties which each states fullfills and the federal govt will have there duties as well which the will fullfill.


As I have said before I do not give a toss about labels and arguments about federation, co-federation or whatever you want to call it. For me the 'acid test' is simple. If the structure would give TC the right and means to stop the imposition off something like ENOSIS on them against their will in their own shared homeland then its good enough for me and if it would not then its not. Call it whatever you like. Does your proposed solution meet my acid test or not ? That is all I need to know.



It depends is it just enosis or anything else that you would like to include.that can all be inouted into the a plan.
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Re: Eroglu is an - "Obstacle to Peace"

Postby erolz66 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:56 pm

boulio wrote: It depends is it just enosis or anything else that you would like to include.that can all be inouted into the a plan.


Is what I say really that hard to comprehend ? The principal is clear. If GC choose to act / vote / pursue agendas that are not 'Cypriot' but in fact 'Greek' then the TC should legitimately have an equal voice in our shared homeland to express their will as people who are not Greek. Is that concept really that hard to comprehend ? It is the principal that matters to me. ENOSIS is the most extreme example not only because it clearly and obviously was not the will of a unitary Cypriot people but only the will of those who called themselves GC and universally opposed by those who called themselves TC it also sought to actually destroy the very thing it claim to be the will off, namely a unitary Cypriot people and state.
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Re: Eroglu is an - "Obstacle to Peace"

Postby boulio » Tue Apr 29, 2014 11:44 pm

What agendas will they pursue that are greek?even within the EU cyprus as a state should be status neutral to Greece as a member and turkey as a potential member.
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