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[kurupetos]

Will you two fascist fickos puss off...!!! ... and take the Mad Woman with you!

You are a goblin.

[yialousa1971]

Will you two fascist fickos puss off...!!! ... and take the Mad Woman with you!

You are a goblin.

I think he wants feeding.

[Pyrpolizer]

For example, the rape of Leda by Zeus, materializing like a swan, with large wings, is the later Bible version of the winged Angel who told Mary she was carrying God's child.

imo both the bible and other religious books actually tell the true story about the history of the human race in a rather "fairy tail" manner. And either we like it or not we are not the product of the Creator but rather a product of engineered genes (most probably from some apes). We have been extincted and recreated multiple times Noah's ark, Atlantis, were just 2 of them.
Our evolution was completely unnatural and speed up, and our purpose of existence was and still is to form an army of slaves.
We understand our world with only five senses, whereas we know from observation to animals that there are more, telepathy to just name one.
Even our 5 senses have limited capacity compared to those of animals that evolved naturally. Vision, hearing, smell, taste, you name it, we are inferior to all.

What do you mean by our evolution being completely unnatural? We followed the same path as other highly evolved species (Chimps etc). We just went a little further with the cognitive development after our grunts became more sophisticated.

And I don't think you can generalise that our 5 senses have limited capacity. They work in unison mostly and all 5 work very well individually. Some species have lost their hearing (e.g. snakes) others their sight (e.g. cave-dwelling bats) and cats have barely any taste buds (they smell their food). All in all, we are on a par with many.

As for telepathy: which animals use telepathy? Are you confusing it with echo-location or migratory signals?

if you study evolution that's a very slow process. it takes billions of years. we did not evolve over billions of years. i mean we did evolve a little but we never went through the whole process.
we have not left behind historic prints of a slowly evolving intelligent species.it;s just sudden jumps that surprise surprise brought us to civilization standards some 8k years ago.
besides if we went through the whole process what makes you think we would be the only species on earth with intelligence today.
google telephathy in animals. they do communicate through thought, not necessarily from a distance and also expose some form of paranormal abilities.

[GreekIslandGirl]

For example, the rape of Leda by Zeus, materializing like a swan, with large wings, is the later Bible version of the winged Angel who told Mary she was carrying God's child.

imo both the bible and other religious books actually tell the true story about the history of the human race in a rather "fairy tail" manner. And either we like it or not we are not the product of the Creator but rather a product of engineered genes (most probably from some apes). We have been extincted and recreated multiple times Noah's ark, Atlantis, were just 2 of them.
Our evolution was completely unnatural and speed up, and our purpose of existence was and still is to form an army of slaves.
We understand our world with only five senses, whereas we know from observation to animals that there are more, telepathy to just name one.
Even our 5 senses have limited capacity compared to those of animals that evolved naturally. Vision, hearing, smell, taste, you name it, we are inferior to all.

What do you mean by our evolution being completely unnatural? We followed the same path as other highly evolved species (Chimps etc). We just went a little further with the cognitive development after our grunts became more sophisticated.

And I don't think you can generalise that our 5 senses have limited capacity. They work in unison mostly and all 5 work very well individually. Some species have lost their hearing (e.g. snakes) others their sight (e.g. cave-dwelling bats) and cats have barely any taste buds (they smell their food). All in all, we are on a par with many.

As for telepathy: which animals use telepathy? Are you confusing it with echo-location or migratory signals?

if you study evolution that's a very slow process. it takes billions of years. we did not evolve over billions of years. i mean we did evolve a little but we never went through the whole process.
we have not left behind historic prints of a slowly evolving intelligent species.it;s just sudden jumps that surprise surprise brought us to civilization standards some 8k years ago.
besides if we went through the whole process what makes you think we would be the only species on earth with intelligence today.
google telephathy in animals. they do communicate through thought, not necessarily from a distance and also expose some form of paranormal abilities.

Nope, if they communicated through telepathy, it would work at a distance. The reason it only works short distance is because animals usually use their more sensitive hearing or smelling sensors, and these work over a short distance. This is how some dogs can sense that their owners have cancer - and why we now train dogs to detect cancer from smelling someone's breath or wee. We're also about to see an interest in pheromones which we know a lot about in moths and butterflies but are now discovering all over the animal kingdom. These are 'undetectable' chemicals (to our conscious) that are picked-up in molecule-quantities from quite long distances and cause behavioral (and some physiological) changes.

As for speed of evolution, you're only considering Gradualism (the slow evolutionary process that sees small changes over time). It ticks along consistently and can produce amazing results, even then. But Punctuated evolution explains how we have suddenly seen massive biological changes happen very quickly. We know most of these rapid steps took place when mutations occurred in various control centers of the genes (e.g. homeobox) and these lead to a cascade of developmental changes resulting in species looking very different.

Anyway, I can demonstrate 'evolution' to you in a few hours. Take bacteria (life cycle: 20 minutes) that are sensitive to an antibiotic (say, penicillin) and grow them in its presence. This will kill them off apart from those few naturally occurring mutants trundling along not having any advantage, ordinarily. This environment then gives those penicillin mutants the advantage and suddenly they multiply without competition from the others (now dead) - they become the majority in less than an hour. Bingo. They are 'evolved' with a new set of genes (alleles).

All the chemicals we need to become "us" are all around us. They are just combined nicely. It's not magic.

[kurupetos]

Will you two fascist fickos puss off...!!! ... and take the Mad Woman with you!

You are a goblin.

I think he wants feeding.

No, he wants kicking.

[Pyrpolizer]

Nope, if they communicated through telepathy, it would work at a distance. The reason it only works short distance is because animals usually use their more sensitive hearing or smelling sensors, and these work over a short distance. This is how some dogs can sense that their owners have cancer - and why we now train dogs to detect cancer from smelling someone's breath or wee. We're also about to see an interest in pheromones which we know a lot about in moths and butterflies but are now discovering all over the animal kingdom. These are 'undetectable' chemicals (to our conscious) that are picked-up in molecule-quantities from quite long distances and cause behavioral (and some physiological) changes.

As for speed of evolution, you're only considering Gradualism (the slow evolutionary process that sees small changes over time). It ticks along consistently and can produce amazing results, even then. But Punctuated evolution explains how we have suddenly seen massive biological changes happen very quickly. We know most of these rapid steps took place when mutations occurred in various control centers of the genes (e.g. homeobox) and these lead to a cascade of developmental changes resulting in species looking very different.

Anyway, I can demonstrate 'evolution' to you in a few hours. Take bacteria (life cycle: 20 minutes) that are sensitive to an antibiotic (say, penicillin) and grow them in its presence. This will kill them off apart from those few naturally occurring mutants trundling along not having any advantage, ordinarily. This environment then gives those penicillin mutants the advantage and suddenly they multiply without competition from the others (now dead) - they become the majority in less than an hour. Bingo. They are 'evolved' with a new set of genes (alleles).

All the chemicals we need to become "us" are all around us. They are just combined nicely. It's not magic.

Dogs smelling 'cancer" is certainly not telepathy. But how do you explain dogs even predicting "heart attacks" , or sensing the death of their master from hundreds of miles away?

Do I get it right that you consider the evolution from hobo sapiens over some millions of years to sudden advanced civilization levels as a natural phenomenon of evolution? If that's so how we cannot understand the purpose and still searching for the secrets of pyramids ? Those were only made a few thousand years ago by our presumably first advanced civilization.
Where's the continuity between that civilization and the ones that followed?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Dogs smelling 'cancer" is certainly not telepathy.

That's right. It's not telepathy. They can smell the giveaway chemicals produced by certain cancers long before the patient is aware anything is wrong with them.

But how do you explain dogs even predicting "heart attacks" ,

Same as the sensing (above) when someone has cancer. Prior to a heart attack, the person is likely to be more distressed and emit fear hormones - which dogs can smell. Also, this isn't my field, but I would postulate that during or just prior to a heart attack, again your body's metabolism has gone wrong enough that it produces specific chemicals - again, which dogs can smell because of their superior sense.

or sensing the death of their master from hundreds of miles away?

Now, how often has this occurred that you can theorize with it? Dogs act funny for all sorts of reasons throughout the day. If at some point someone also happened to die, people would say "Oh, my dog was behaving funny earlier". Well, my dog behaves funny most times.

Do I get it right that you consider the evolution from hobo sapiens over some millions of years to sudden advanced civilization levels as a natural phenomenon of evolution? If that's so how we cannot understand the purpose and still searching for the secrets of pyramids ? Those were only made a few thousand years ago by our presumably first advanced civilization.
Where's the continuity between that civilization and the ones that followed?

The evolution of man started 3.5 BILLION years ago - there's no "sudden" civilization about it. But when things happen once, and they are advantageous, then they spread very quickly.

I don't see where there is any mystery concerning pyramids? Care to explain? Also, why do you think civilizations have been discontinuous? That's not how cave paintings, early tools, pots and other historical developments relate our past.

[Get Real!]

The evolution of man started 3.5 BILLION years ago -

Did they use Stephen Hawking's time machine to establish that?

[Paphitis]

The evolution of man started 3.5 BILLION years ago -

Did they use Stephen Hawking's time machine to establish that?

Fossils!

By the way, your fossils will one day be on display of how evolution can also get it wrong!

[Get Real!]

If it took 3.5 billion years of “evolution” to result in a Paphitis, a Kouroupetos, a Yialoser, a Miltiades, and a Sotos, then this horrible slow thing has to be stopped immediately!

I so want my money back!


Oh my tummy…

For the love of God, someone turn this thing off!