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[Jerry]

Actually no,

Israel is more than willing to accept a 2 State Solution at some point under a comprehensive settlement which it will hope will afford it security. Such a situation is however not possible with Hamas, and further to this it is Hamas that has attacked Israel thus provoking Israeli action against it in Gaza.

Are you seriously suggesting that Israel will give up the settlements in the West Bank?

If the Greek Cypriots attacked Turkish troops in the north would you consider the GCs to be the instigators of the the conflict?

[Paphitis]

Actually no,

Israel is more than willing to accept a 2 State Solution at some point under a comprehensive settlement which it will hope will afford it security. Such a situation is however not possible with Hamas, and further to this it is Hamas that has attacked Israel thus provoking Israeli action against it in Gaza.

Are you seriously suggesting that Israel will give up the settlements in the West Bank?

If the Greek Cypriots attacked Turkish troops in the north would you consider the GCs to be the instigators of the the conflict?

Eventually, the West Vank will be ceded over for the formation of a Palestinian State. This will only occur when they feel assured that their security is pretty much assured. The Israeli Settlers will be allowed to stay but will of course not want to.

Your comparison to Cyprus is not accurate. Hamas has been launching rocket attacks into Israel territory. It is not land under occupation. The Turks however are illegally occupying RoC territory.

[supporttheunderdog]

High time Cyprus had a female President.

I'll vote for you, only if you give me free reign.

And since you are all for girl power, then you wouldn't mind me forming an entire female infantry, and mechanized division like this!

There will be women infantry, driving tanks and flying planes and lots of female officers commanding them!

Err, do you suffer from impure thoughts about women in uniform?

I don't think I am suffering!

Hi Paphitis

Here is women in uniform for you - the new head of the UNFICYP

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[miltiades]

Rather prematurely, the poll finishes tomorrow, the votes tell a story. A story of dissaproval of GRs views.

May your god ...cure you

[Jerry]

Eventually, the West Vank will be ceded over for the formation of a Palestinian State. This will only occur when they feel assured that their security is pretty much assured. The Israeli Settlers will be allowed to stay but will of course not want to.

Your comparison to Cyprus is not accurate. Hamas has been launching rocket attacks into Israel territory. It is not land under occupation. The Turks however are illegally occupying RoC territory.[/quote

There are 650,000 Israelis in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, they continue to build on Palestinian land and you seriously believe they will get up and leave one day if a Palestinian State is ever created, dream on.

As to Hamas launching attacks on Israeli territory, a more accurate description would be Israeli OCCUPIED territory (rather like Cyprus). Where the hell do you think the Gaza refugees came from, the moon?

Enlighten yourself, http://www.forcedmigration.org/research ... ldocuments

[Paphitis]

Eventually, the West Vank will be ceded over for the formation of a Palestinian State. This will only occur when they feel assured that their security is pretty much assured. The Israeli Settlers will be allowed to stay but will of course not want to.

Your comparison to Cyprus is not accurate. Hamas has been launching rocket attacks into Israel territory. It is not land under occupation. The Turks however are illegally occupying RoC territory.[/quote

There are 650,000 Israelis in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, they continue to build on Palestinian land and you seriously believe they will get up and leave one day if a Palestinian State is ever created, dream on.

As to Hamas launching attacks on Israeli territory, a more accurate description would be Israeli OCCUPIED territory (rather like Cyprus). Where the hell do you think the Gaza refugees came from, the moon?

Enlighten yourself, http://www.forcedmigration.org/research ... ldocuments

Maybe not from East Jerusalem but from the West Bank I most certainly do believe that the settlers will leave voluntarily after a settlement.

Jerry, your descriptor is terribly woeful. Israel is NOT an occupied land. It is a sovereign country that is a member of the UN and it is recognized the world over. As a result, it has a legal right to lawfully defend its territory from external attack.

The rocket and tunnel attacks by Hamas are an attack on Israel, and as a result of this, Israel has a right to defend itself. That might include an offensive against Hamas terrorists deep within Gaza in a crowded urban environment which is the civilian shield of Hamas from Israeli attack. The IDF issues warnings and evacuation instructions before the begin their military operations in that area.

Yes it is awful to see innocent people getting hurt it killed. It's a real shame, but Hamas probably enjoy it a little too much because they use this for political mileage. The Israeli's know that this damages them internationally. But as far as they are concerned, the price of this is justified by the total destruction of Hamas.

If you place any country in Israel's shoes then you would quickly understand that they would do the same as Hamas attacks simply can't be tolerated by anyone. Bottom line is, if Hamas stop the rocket attacks, then Israel wouldn't go anywhere near Gaza.

[Oceanside50]

Eventually, the West Vank will be ceded over for the formation of a Palestinian State. This will only occur when they feel assured that their security is pretty much assured. The Israeli Settlers will be allowed to stay but will of course not want to.

Your comparison to Cyprus is not accurate. Hamas has been launching rocket attacks into Israel territory. It is not land under occupation. The Turks however are illegally occupying RoC territory.[/quote

There are 650,000 Israelis in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, they continue to build on Palestinian land and you seriously believe they will get up and leave one day if a Palestinian State is ever created, dream on.

As to Hamas launching attacks on Israeli territory, a more accurate description would be Israeli OCCUPIED territory (rather like Cyprus). Where the hell do you think the Gaza refugees came from, the moon?

Enlighten yourself, http://www.forcedmigration.org/research ... ldocuments

I don't think the comparison between Cyprus and Palestine holds much water. The lands these people are talking about was not owned individually but rather owned by one person who sharecropped his land to Palestinian families.. The Cypriots own and have title deeds to the illegally occupied lands. Title deeds were started by the Brits ( guessing) the same empire Palestine was under.. I can't recall a Palestinian showing a deed to his property in Israel....plus a lot of the land was purchased by the Zionist pre 48

[Jerry]

I suggest both the respondents to my post take the time to the link I posted. Yes, Israel is a recognised State but the UN does not recognise its right to some of the the territory it currently occupies, read the link, it gives a blow by blow account of how Israel expanded at the expense of deed holding Palestinians.

You are defending the indefensible.

[Paphitis]

I suggest both the respondents to my post take the time to the link I posted. Yes, Israel is a recognised State but the UN does not recognise its right to some of the the territory it currently occupies, read the link, it gives a blow by blow account of how Israel expanded at the expense of deed holding Palestinians.

You are defending the indefensible.

I am aware of it Jerry!

However, Hamas rocket attacks were on Israel proper. The world of course does not recognize Israeli ownership of the Gaza (Israel doesn't claim to own it either) and the West Bank. However, Jerusalem is fairly contentious. An attack on Israel, equates to the right of self defence, and that includes military action against Hamas in Gaza. This military action does not have as its objective Israeli expansionism into Gaza.

Hamas however claim all of Jerusalem and calls for the destruction of the State of Israel which makers everything very difficult.

[Jerry]

Hardly surprising that Hamas claims the whole of Jerusalem is it?

http://www.passia.org/palestine_facts/M ... ership.htm