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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:45 pm

The Iraqi air force is apparently bombing DAESH targets in the vicinity of that genocidal movement's headquarters in Raqqa, Syria.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:10 pm

According to US secretary of state John Kerry:

"Kobane does not define the strategy for the coalition in respect to Daesh [ISIL in Arabic]. Kobane is one community and it is a tragedy what is happening there. And we do not diminish that," Kerry said.

"But we have said from day one that it is going to take a period of time to bring the coalition thoroughly to the table to rebuild some of the morale and capacity of the Iraqi army. And to begin the focus of where we ought to be focusing first which is in Iraq. That is the current strategy."


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 59892.html
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:42 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:According to US secretary of state John Kerry:

"Kobane does not define the strategy for the coalition in respect to Daesh [ISIL in Arabic]. Kobane is one community and it is a tragedy what is happening there. And we do not diminish that," Kerry said.

"But we have said from day one that it is going to take a period of time to bring the coalition thoroughly to the table to rebuild some of the morale and capacity of the Iraqi army. And to begin the focus of where we ought to be focusing first which is in Iraq. That is the current strategy."


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeas ... 59892.html


Spot the contradiction:

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry spoke out against hate and discrimination on Friday, the 19th anniversary of the Srebrenica massacre of 8,000 Muslim males during the Bosnian civil war.

Kerry issued a statement saying the anniversary is about more than keeping alive the memories of the victims -- it also is saying loudly and clearly "no more, never again."


http://www.voanews.com/content/kerry-sa ... 56057.html
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:56 pm

According to PYD (the forces defending Kobane from genocide) sources, today DAESH attacked the town in two columns on the south-west front, but both attacks were repelled killing at least 53 members of the genocidal organisation. This may not be the most objective news source, but as long as they are still there giving reports, this means they must be hanging on.

http://www.radikal.com.tr/dunya/kobanid ... ti-1218550
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:04 pm

According to Major General Craig Orm from Australia's Joint Task Force, DAESH is vulnerable in Iraq and its defeat is imminent. Not sure if this is premature but I sense the tide is turning myself.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/10/1 ... vulnerable
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:00 am

Paphitis wrote:According to Major General Craig Orm from Australia's Joint Task Force, DAESH is vulnerable in Iraq and its defeat is imminent. Not sure if this is premature but I sense the tide is turning myself.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/10/1 ... vulnerable


It is good to see the Iraqi military starting to do something about an invasion of its sovereign territory.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:13 am

Tim Drayton wrote:While Erdoğan and his regime stand by and watch as genocide beckons on their borders and they unleash armed goons to fire live ammunition into anti-genocide protests in their own country, not everyone in Turkey in Turkey is standing idly by. It is reported that 29-year-old Bosphorous University student Suphi Nejat Ağırnaslı died on 7 October while fighting in the ranks of the YPG to defend Kobane from genocide.

The young man’s father, Hikmet Cur, commented, “I have lost my son, my comrade, Nejat in Kobane. With other glittering lives ahead of him, he chose revolutionary solidarity. He kept his word. He did not let me down. He gave me the gift of being part of me. All pain is great. There will not be another like him. I bow down before him with respect.”

http://www.birgun.net/news/view/bogazic ... tirdi/7104


Incidentally, it transpires that this young man was not of Kurdish origin, which helps to prove that the Turkish left is with Kobane and not just Kurds.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:18 am

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:Erdoğan and his AKP regime are Islamists; their main goal is the forcible Islamisation of the secular Republic of Turkey. The difference from DAESH is one of tactics and speed. DAESH force people to return to the Middle Ages overnight, the AKP are prepared to do it step by step over 50 years. However, since they have the same ultimate goal, AKP supports DAESH, but at the same time, its place within the Western alliance means that the Turkish regime has to give lip service to being in the anti-DAESH alliance. There is a wider Turkish-Qatari-Saudi plan to see Islamist regimes installed in Syria and Iraq to act as a bulwark against Iranian influence in the region - secular, socialist Rojava stands in the way of this plan. For both of the above reasons, Erdoğan and his AKP regime are happy to sit back and watch genocide take place on their own doorstep.


What I do not understand uis why aren't the Kemalists planning a Coup? I would have thought that a Coup attempt would have occured by now.


I don't think that coups are on the agenda any more, after the defeat of Ergenekon, and I think it is true to say that coups in Turkey only ever succeeded when America wanted them to. I am sure Western intelligence is well aware of the above - in fact, there was a scandal not long ago when it emerged that German intelligence had started to "listen" to Turkey again, the Germans justifying this on the grounds that Turkey was an unreliable ally in Syria. Joe Biden let the cat out of the bag a week or so ago when he said in a lecture that Erdoğan was partly to blame for the emergence of DAESH, but had to apologise later in the day. I am sure they could arrange for Erdoğan to have an "accident" if they really wanted him out of the way. The fact that this doesn't happen shows that his usefulness to them still outweighs the disadvantages. And that is if we assume that the US is really committed to the defence of Kobani in progressive, secular Rojova.


When I was in North Anerica recently I was curious to see the skewed reporting that is so famous on Fox News. They had a Republican Neoconservative you was very blunt about his criticism of Turkey. He too blamed Turkey for the emergence of DAESH and even went as far as saying that Turkey practically funded them. Joe Biden is a slave to his boss and the Democrats. The Republicans are calling the spade a spade for the moment.


The stop press news is that Denmark is threatening to freeze relations with Turkey because the regime there has released an Islamist maniac who attempted to assassinate the prime-minister of Denmark and whose extradition was requested by the latter country. For all we know, he has already fled to Syria and is beheading people.


It is being claimed that this suspected assassin whose extradition was requested by Denmark - a Danish citizen of Lebanese origin - was released under an agreement with DAESH that the Turkish regime would release 150 of its detainees in Turkey against the release of the 39 Turkish hostages that DAESH was holding (believed by many to have been staged).
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:11 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Paphitis wrote:According to Major General Craig Orm from Australia's Joint Task Force, DAESH is vulnerable in Iraq and its defeat is imminent. Not sure if this is premature but I sense the tide is turning myself.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/10/1 ... vulnerable


It is good to see the Iraqi military starting to do something about an invasion of its sovereign territory.


It should be a lot easier for them now that they have the support of a vast coalition. They push them out, and we can kill them from the air.
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Re: For civilised discussion about Islamic State

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:29 pm

Kurdish fighters battling Islamic State (IS) say they have recaptured a strategically important hilltop west of Kobane on Syria's border with Turkey.
The advances were made after a series of air strikes by the US-led coalition.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29611673

Mind you, other reports say that the head-chopping jihadists now hold half of the town.
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