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[repulsewarrior]

...i remind you, that the first person to congratulate him on his election as President of Greece, was a Cypriot of Turkish origin who called him "my brother", a Turk of Kurdish origin was second.

[GreekIslandGirl]

instead of buying planes to put out fires they bought f16s

Not such a stupid move considering Turkish state authorised and instigated starting fires in Greece to destroy their economy.

Outrage As Former Turkish Prime Minister Says The Country Secretly Started Huge Forest Fires In Greece

ADAM TAYLOR

DEC. 28, 2011, 12:05 AM 2,356 8

Comments by former Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz at the weekend in newspaper Birgun have led to outrage in Greece and a denial from Yilmaz.

In the interview with Yilmaz, the former PM allegedly admitted that the Turkish state had given funds and support to secret agents who started a number of forest fires in Greece in the 1990s — a covert act in response to suspicions Greek agents had started a number of fires in Turkish tourist areas.

Specifically, Yilmaz, alleges that agents of the Turkish secret service set fire to Greek forests during the leadership of his arch-rival Tansu Ciller, from 1995 to 1998.

While the state's involvement in the fires had long been suspected, the admission would be the first acknowledgment of the operations.

http://www.businessinsider.com/turkey-g ... 11-12?IR=T

Turkish deep state and Greek forest fires


We now have a growing crisis at hand with Greece. All of a sudden it appears that the Greeks have found a plausible explanation for some of the devastating forest fires in the past. And it seems to me that this will lead to a serious crisis between Greece and Turkey.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist/or ... 66931.html

[Oceanside50]

instead of buying planes to put out fires they bought f16s

Not such a stupid move considering Turkish state authorised and instigated starting fires in Greece to destroy their economy.

Outrage As Former Turkish Prime Minister Says The Country Secretly Started Huge Forest Fires In Greece

ADAM TAYLOR

DEC. 28, 2011, 12:05 AM 2,356 8

Comments by former Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz at the weekend in newspaper Birgun have led to outrage in Greece and a denial from Yilmaz.

In the interview with Yilmaz, the former PM allegedly admitted that the Turkish state had given funds and support to secret agents who started a number of forest fires in Greece in the 1990s — a covert act in response to suspicions Greek agents had started a number of fires in Turkish tourist areas.

Specifically, Yilmaz, alleges that agents of the Turkish secret service set fire to Greek forests during the leadership of his arch-rival Tansu Ciller, from 1995 to 1998.

While the state's involvement in the fires had long been suspected, the admission would be the first acknowledgment of the operations.

http://www.businessinsider.com/turkey-g ... 11-12?IR=T

Turkish deep state and Greek forest fires


We now have a growing crisis at hand with Greece. All of a sudden it appears that the Greeks have found a plausible explanation for some of the devastating forest fires in the past. And it seems to me that this will lead to a serious crisis between Greece and Turkey.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist/or ... 66931.html

For some reason between the years of 95-98, there were issues that came to a boiling point between Greece and Turkey. HugeAir Force Dog Fights over the Aegean (over 100 planes at a time)The Imia crises, S-300's in Cyprus and the events at Dherinia..It may have been because of these Turk agents setting fires

[GreekIslandGirl]

instead of buying planes to put out fires they bought f16s

Not such a stupid move considering Turkish state authorised and instigated starting fires in Greece to destroy their economy.

Outrage As Former Turkish Prime Minister Says The Country Secretly Started Huge Forest Fires In Greece

ADAM TAYLOR

DEC. 28, 2011, 12:05 AM 2,356 8

Comments by former Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz at the weekend in newspaper Birgun have led to outrage in Greece and a denial from Yilmaz.

In the interview with Yilmaz, the former PM allegedly admitted that the Turkish state had given funds and support to secret agents who started a number of forest fires in Greece in the 1990s — a covert act in response to suspicions Greek agents had started a number of fires in Turkish tourist areas.

Specifically, Yilmaz, alleges that agents of the Turkish secret service set fire to Greek forests during the leadership of his arch-rival Tansu Ciller, from 1995 to 1998.

While the state's involvement in the fires had long been suspected, the admission would be the first acknowledgment of the operations.

http://www.businessinsider.com/turkey-g ... 11-12?IR=T

Turkish deep state and Greek forest fires


We now have a growing crisis at hand with Greece. All of a sudden it appears that the Greeks have found a plausible explanation for some of the devastating forest fires in the past. And it seems to me that this will lead to a serious crisis between Greece and Turkey.

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist/or ... 66931.html

For some reason between the years of 95-98, there were issues that came to a boiling point between Greece and Turkey. HugeAir Force Dog Fights over the Aegean (over 100 planes at a time)The Imia crises, S-300's in Cyprus and the events at Dherinia..It may have been because of these Turk agents setting fires

Yes, and I wouldn't be surprised if Turkey was behind that last lot of fires that devastated Greece a few years ago. They came just before the tourist season and I know of two families (friends) that cancelled their holidays to Greece. One lot then went to frigging Turkey for their holiday.

Just last week some Turkish minister stated they didn't want Greece to leave the eurozone because then their holidays would become cheap again and they would pose serious competition for Turkey's tourism industry. Seems the Turks guard their tourism zealously which explains why their adverts promote all the Greek history attached to Turkey (but without stating it is Greek!).

[Robin Hood]

The Delphi Declaration — Paul Craig Roberts

The Delphi Conference on the European/Russian crisis created by Washington (my address to the conference is here: http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/06/19/paul-craig-roberts-address-international-conference-europeanrussian-crisis-created-washington/ ) issued a declaration repudiating the EU attack on the Greek nation.

The Delphi Declaration asks the European peoples, especially the Germans, to do the right thing and object to the plunder of Greece by the One Percent. This appeal to good will is likely to fall on deaf ears even though the pillage of Greece will create a precedent that can then be applied to Italy, Spain, France, and even Germany.

Full declaration:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/06/23/delphi-declaration/

[Lordo]

your fires were started by ikarus and his sword. you cant blame the tergs for that one.

the pine trees easily burn naturally. nature starts fires even in griik lands.

Forest fires always start by one of two ways - naturally caused or human caused. Natural fires are generally started by lightning, with a very small percentage started by spontaneous combustion of dry fuel such as sawdust and leaves. On the other hand, human-caused fires can be due to any number of reasons.

stopcooking souvla near dry grass for a start.

[Get Real!]

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That's all for now folks...

[Cap]

The Greeks will never capitulate to reforms and austerity measures.
It's an anarchic society and like GiGs said, they're of the land, and some things will never change.
It's never about the good of the country, it's always about individualism, political affiliation and self interest.

The EU and IMF have no idea what they're getting themselves into.
Let's see if they can clinch a 'deal'...

[GreekIslandGirl]

The Greeks will never capitulate to reforms and austerity measures.
It's an anarchic society and like GiGs said, they're of the land, and some things will never change.
It's never about the good of the country, it's always about individualism, political affiliation and self interest.

The EU and IMF have no idea what they're getting themselves into.
Let's see if they can clinch a 'deal'...

On the contrary, the individualism you ascribe to Greeks is a strong, positive aspect for the country as a whole (nationalism ring a bell?). Otherwise, they would not have one of the oldest societies in Europe. It is due to this loyalty, and the fact they spoke so honestly about their desire to be team players for the European dream, that they are now being tested to breaking point.

Their connection to the land will see them through - as always, though.

For sure, they are making that (despised) 1% extremely rich. It's now up to the the EU/ECB/IMF to offer some sweeteners in order for Greece to continue to feed them longer term.

...despite the hardline position of most eurozone finance ministers, EU leaders expressed the political will at a summit in Brussels to take half a step towards Greece.

Guardian

[repulsewarrior]

...odds makers in Las Vegas give Greece 2:1 odds for staying in the eurozone.