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[Tim Drayton]

Of course, there is an alternative argument that this is all a question of the right of self-determination. One could argue that the Saudis are perfectly entitled to live under an absolutist monarchy and mired in the dark ages, with all forms of thought that deviate from the established Wahabbist interpretation of Islam persecuted as heresy. On the other hand, under this same argument, a country such as France, the home of Voltaire, is equally free to flourish as a democratic, pluralistic, multicultural country in which the right to free expression of peoples of all faiths and none is guaranteed. Three and a half million French people demonstrated yesterday that this is the popular will in their country.

and yet trade with saudi arabia with no guilt.

If you accept the premise - and there is no reason why you necessarily have to - that this is their right to self-determination, then yes.

[Paphitis]

Of course, there is an alternative argument that this is all a question of the right of self-determination. One could argue that the Saudis are perfectly entitled to live under an absolutist monarchy and mired in the dark ages, with all forms of thought that deviate from the established Wahabbist interpretation of Islam persecuted as heresy. On the other hand, under this same argument, a country such as France, the home of Voltaire, is equally free to flourish as a democratic, pluralistic, multicultural country in which the right to free expression of peoples of all faiths and none is guaranteed. Three and a half million French people demonstrated yesterday that this is the popular will in their country.

and yet trade with saudi arabia with no guilt.

Yes absolutely with no guilt. they are an ally and i don't think we have any right to be telling them what to do in their country.

Their country, their right to do what they wish with it. Plus we need the Oil and are only too happy to buy it from them.

They do not invade and occupy other countries.

Likewise, I don't think the Saudis have a right to be judging France's pluralist society.

[Lordo]

like in normal life, you are judged by the friends you keep.

[miltiades]

like in normal life, you are judged by the friends you keep.

Same as you and GR

[Lordo]

in what way am i friends with gr. i have only ever agreed with one thing with him and that is the west and what it does to the rest of the world particularly using dictators to rob their resources.

when i start saying ta out of cyprus now, then i would agree with you. but i di not, ta out of cyprus after bbf.
where as you on the other hand are in cahoots with netenyahu ffs and killing thousands of children over the years particularly when he was in the army and invaded lebanon. interestingly kikapus avatar ends with u too. is that a coincidence or is he jewish.

[miltiades]

in what way am i friends with gr. i have only ever agreed with one thing with him and that is the west and what it does to the rest of the world particularly using dictators to rob their resources.

when i start saying ta out of cyprus now, then i would agree with you. but i di not, ta out of cyprus after bbf.
where as you on the other hand are in cahoots with netenyahu ffs and killing thousands of children over the years particularly when he was in the army and invaded lebanon. interestingly kikapus avatar ends with u too. is that a coincidence or is he jewish.

And here was I thinking he is your half brother

[Lordo]

interesting. do i have to disagree with everything gr says. what if he is right for once. go i have to disagree in case you think i am his friend. blooming heck old man you have had a very sheltered life.

[boomerang]

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[boomerang]

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[boomerang]

If the kkk can parade in full colours with out incidents the muslims should do the same and shut the fuck up....they need to understand what counts these days is the rule of law and not some paedophile's rumblings...the muslims need to clearly understand they are not the chosen people on this earth....everyone is and everyone has an opinion to express....