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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:17 pm

miltiades wrote:
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miltiades wrote:Cyprus needs the National Guard AT ALL COSTS.

Nobody can seriously suggest that the CNG can single handedly take on the Turkish army, that is why we must forge closer alliances with powerful nations such as the USA and Israel.

The unrest in the ME will not go away, America would be more than happy to have bases in Cyprus and so would Israel.

As for the comments made regarding the NG, talking from personal experience, my son in law is a regular for fore than 15 years, I have met many other regulars from his unit and I was very impressed with them all. His unit is well known by all in Cyprus.


I have suggested that the CNG can give a good account of itself and take on Turkey. I firmly believe this and stand by this 100%. But I believe that the ADF can take on the might of Russia. Do you think I am insane? It's been proven time and time again even today. Little David has defeated Goliath many times.

You keep this defeatist crap to yourself and stop writing such nonsense!

Any Officer who disagrees with this should retire at once, including your son in law.

I think we had this discussion a few years back. The ADF is not the CNG, you should know this.

Turkey has a masive military machine and although it may suffer heavy casulties it can not be defeated by a tiny nation such as Cyprus. Be realistic now, by our selves we can not win, we need powerful allies.


The ADF and the CNG are completely different. The ADF can mobilize forces very quickly to the four corners of the globe and pack a pretty decent punch with advance weapons.

The CNG is excellent for operations in Cyprus and defending its lines. It could pack a pretty severe punch against Turkish Forces in Cyprus but it can't project power globally obviously.

Both have developed great capabilities according to the likely threats they may face, or in the ADF's case to protect Australia's strategic interest across the globe (Gulf, Iraq, SE Asian Trade Routes, Natural Resources etc).
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby miltiades » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:19 pm

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Cyprus needs the National Guard AT ALL COSTS.

Nobody can seriously suggest that the CNG can single handedly take on the Turkish army, that is why we must forge closer alliances with powerful nations such as the USA and Israel.

The unrest in the ME will not go away, America would be more than happy to have bases in Cyprus and so would Israel.

As for the comments made regarding the NG, talking from personal experience, my son in law is a regular for fore than 15 years, I have met many other regulars from his unit and I was very impressed with them all. His unit is well known by all in Cyprus.


I have suggested that the CNG can give a good account of itself and take on Turkey. I firmly believe this and stand by this 100%. But I believe that the ADF can take on the might of Russia. Do you think I am insane? It's been proven time and time again even today. Little David has defeated Goliath many times.

You keep this defeatist crap to yourself and stop writing such nonsense!

Any Officer who disagrees with this should retire at once, including your son in law.

I think we had this discussion a few years back. The ADF is not the CNG, you should know this.

Turkey has a masive military machine and although it may suffer heavy casulties it can not be defeated by a tiny nation such as Cyprus. Be realistic now, by our selves we can not win, we need powerful allies.


The ADF and the CNG are completely different. The ADF can mobilize forces very quickly to the four corners of the globe and pack a pretty decent punch with advance weapons.

The CNG is excellent for operations in Cyprus and defending its lines. It could pack a pretty severe punch against Turkish Forces in Cyprus.

Both have developed great capabilities according to the likely threats they may face, or in the ADF's case to protect Australia's interest across the globe.

Paphitis, calm down and be reasonable. We are talking not only about the TA in Cyprus but the Turkish military, the 8th most pwerfull army in the world according to this.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/35-most-p ... rld-2014-7
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:23 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:Cyprus needs the National Guard AT ALL COSTS.

Nobody can seriously suggest that the CNG can single handedly take on the Turkish army, that is why we must forge closer alliances with powerful nations such as the USA and Israel.

The unrest in the ME will not go away, America would be more than happy to have bases in Cyprus and so would Israel.

As for the comments made regarding the NG, talking from personal experience, my son in law is a regular for fore than 15 years, I have met many other regulars from his unit and I was very impressed with them all. His unit is well known by all in Cyprus.


I have suggested that the CNG can give a good account of itself and take on Turkey. I firmly believe this and stand by this 100%. But I believe that the ADF can take on the might of Russia. Do you think I am insane? It's been proven time and time again even today. Little David has defeated Goliath many times.

You keep this defeatist crap to yourself and stop writing such nonsense!

Any Officer who disagrees with this should retire at once, including your son in law.

I think we had this discussion a few years back. The ADF is not the CNG, you should know this.

Turkey has a masive military machine and although it may suffer heavy casulties it can not be defeated by a tiny nation such as Cyprus. Be realistic now, by our selves we can not win, we need powerful allies.


The ADF and the CNG are completely different. The ADF can mobilize forces very quickly to the four corners of the globe and pack a pretty decent punch with advance weapons.

The CNG is excellent for operations in Cyprus and defending its lines. It could pack a pretty severe punch against Turkish Forces in Cyprus.

Both have developed great capabilities according to the likely threats they may face, or in the ADF's case to protect Australia's interest across the globe.

Paphitis, calm down and be reasonable. We are talking not only about the TA in Cyprus but the Turkish military, the 8th most pwerfull army in the world according to this.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/35-most-p ... rld-2014-7


I am being reasonable. You're the one not being reasonable and all that despite everything you have to say has been disproven over and over. Look at the headache DAESH have caused against the most strongest military nations on the planet. Look at Israel. Look at Ukraine.

I have never heard or seen any evidence of defeatist attitudes like yours by the Ukrainian leadership. NO WAY!

DAESH not only is facing the number 1 military power on the planet, but another 20 odd nations.
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:50 pm

Atheist wrote:If you think CNG can defeat the Turkish Army then you are way beyond the realm of realism.

Who says you’re going up against the Turkish Army? That’s something you’ve invented but I’ve already explained that Turkey won’t be abandoning her country to drop all her soldiers off in Kyrenia for the sake of Cyprus!

Atheist wrote:I served in the army and I still serve as a reserve. That is how I know their sorry state.

If you’re in a sorry state then I’m sorry for you because everyone has been practicing their military role for decades with repeat exercises so I can’t understand why some of you feel you still can’t do it!

If our forefathers who were so uneducated, had no military training and next to zero equipment managed to shoot down 14 Super Sabres in 1974, then you must be very stupid if you’re still having difficulty in your area of expertise after so many decades of practice! :?
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:52 pm

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Atheist wrote:I disagree with pretty much everything that you said but there is no reason to keep repeating myself.

The way you put it we may as well just go and kill ourselves to save Turkey the hasslle FFS.

Hade man the Fuck up, if you want to bend over with your trousers down ready to receive a Turkish soujouk then do so, but pleaseeeeee, don't expect the rest of us to do the same. We are 'Axoi' to stand and fight even in the face of defeat, we will do what we can.

The CNG should be reinforced by taxing other areas, especially Athiest who talk shit, little fucking cowards that want to surrender before Turkey even says Boo!

Tax the crossing points, tax the TC taxis that come to Larnaca, Tax the carpet baggers that come to Larnaca/Paphos then go over, look for other areas to tax to raise further funds for the CNG. Long Live the CNG.

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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby Cap » Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:47 pm

People understandably want to do away with the CNG because in their minds it would prove useless against the Turkish army which is DUH! superior in numbers.
What they don't know is that the CNG has been honing and refining their air and border defence capabilities for years.

The purpose of the CNG is for DEFENSE not INVASION.
We don't 'claim' to be able to defeat the Turkish army or any other army for that matter.

In this volatile part of the world where the threat is greatest, neighboring countries in turmoil and geopolitical and military alliances being forged and broken constantly left right and centre we'd be INSANE not to have at least some sort of defense to protect the citizens of this country.

The possible scenarios are many.
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:46 pm

Cap wrote:People understandably want to do away with the CNG because in their minds it would prove useless against the Turkish army which is DUH! superior in numbers.
What they don't know is that the CNG has been honing and refining their air and border defence capabilities for years.

The purpose of the CNG is for DEFENSE not INVASION.
We don't 'claim' to be able to defeat the Turkish army or any other army for that matter.

In this volatile part of the world where the threat is greatest, neighboring countries in turmoil and geopolitical and military alliances being forged and broken constantly left right and centre we'd be INSANE not to have at least some sort of defense to protect the citizens of this country.

The possible scenarios are many.

if the cng cannot defend you against terggey then what is it for. that is just stupid and music to the ears of the weapons manufacturers. here is a list of the countries that do not have an army. they must all be insane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby miltiades » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:59 pm

Cyprus needs a defence force able to send a message to terrggy that she can not just walk into OUR country, occupy kill and rape. Send the frigging terggggs a message, we have powerful allies, not least the greatest nation on earth ( after Cyprus ) the great and all powerful US of A.
You don't mess with ammerigans boy :lol: :lol:
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby Cap » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:02 pm

Lordo wrote:
Cap wrote:People understandably want to do away with the CNG because in their minds it would prove useless against the Turkish army which is DUH! superior in numbers.
What they don't know is that the CNG has been honing and refining their air and border defence capabilities for years.

The purpose of the CNG is for DEFENSE not INVASION.
We don't 'claim' to be able to defeat the Turkish army or any other army for that matter.

In this volatile part of the world where the threat is greatest, neighboring countries in turmoil and geopolitical and military alliances being forged and broken constantly left right and centre we'd be INSANE not to have at least some sort of defense to protect the citizens of this country.

The possible scenarios are many.

if the cng cannot defend you against terggey then what is it for. that is just stupid and music to the ears of the weapons manufacturers. here is a list of the countries that do not have an army. they must all be insane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces



Yeah, none are located in the middle east and none have terggy as a neighbor.
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Re: Practical ways for improving our economy

Postby B25 » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:14 pm

Cap wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Cap wrote:People understandably want to do away with the CNG because in their minds it would prove useless against the Turkish army which is DUH! superior in numbers.
What they don't know is that the CNG has been honing and refining their air and border defence capabilities for years.

The purpose of the CNG is for DEFENSE not INVASION.
We don't 'claim' to be able to defeat the Turkish army or any other army for that matter.

In this volatile part of the world where the threat is greatest, neighboring countries in turmoil and geopolitical and military alliances being forged and broken constantly left right and centre we'd be INSANE not to have at least some sort of defense to protect the citizens of this country.

The possible scenarios are many.

if the cng cannot defend you against terggey then what is it for. that is just stupid and music to the ears of the weapons manufacturers. here is a list of the countries that do not have an army. they must all be insane.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces



Yeah, none are located in the middle east and none have terggy as a neighbor.


And are all piss pot nobody countries. I bet most don't even know they exist. Further, it also says that their defence is provided by another country.
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