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[Kikapu]

which direction has the terggish empire gone territory wise since 1924.

double double shlangggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

hatay and north cyprus springs to mind. sooner or later part of iraq, syria and the rest of cyprus will be upgraded to terggish lands once again.

allahu ekber

amin.

Not only the Ottomans/Turkey lost a lot of land in the last 100 years or so, but they have lost ALL of the Oil & Gas too. But what really awaits Turkey in the future is, further loses of land, like half of present Turkey to Armenians and the Kurds.

[Lordo]

which direction has the terggish empire gone territory wise since 1924.

double double shlangggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

hatay and north cyprus springs to mind. sooner or later part of iraq, syria and the rest of cyprus will be upgraded to terggish lands once again.

allahu ekber

amin.

Not only the Ottomans/Turkey lost a lot of land in the last 100 years or so, but they have lost ALL of the Oil & Gas too. But what really awaits Turkey in the future is, further loses of land, like half of present Turkey to Armenians and the Kurds.

just remind me again what lands did they lose since 1924.

[Kikapu]

which direction has the terggish empire gone territory wise since 1924.

double double shlangggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

hatay and north cyprus springs to mind. sooner or later part of iraq, syria and the rest of cyprus will be upgraded to terggish lands once again.

allahu ekber

amin.

Not only the Ottomans/Turkey lost a lot of land in the last 100 years or so, but they have lost ALL of the Oil & Gas too. But what really awaits Turkey in the future is, further loses of land, like half of present Turkey to Armenians and the Kurds.

just remind me again what lands did they lose since 1924.

100 years or so means to 1915 and earlier!

[Lordo]

you are really as stupid as your gc friends. assholes here are saying terggys days are numbered and that it has been reducing in size. i asked how much has it reduced since 1924 which one year after terggy was formed. and there you are talking about 1915. how the hell does that make sense. was terggy formed in 1915. what are you smoking. cut it down it aint helping your brain or lungs ffs.

[Kikapu]

you are really as stupid as your gc friends. assholes here are saying terggys days are numbered and that it has been reducing in size. i asked how much has it reduced since 1924 which one year after terggy was formed. and there you are talking about 1915. how the hell does that make sense. was terggy formed in 1915. what are you smoking. cut it down it aint helping your brain or lungs ffs.

If Erdogan can use the Ottomans as his roots, why can't I use the Ottoman Empire as Turkey's roots?

Are there any distinctions between the two?

No, I didn't think so either!

[Lordo]

you are really as stupid as your gc friends. assholes here are saying terggys days are numbered and that it has been reducing in size. i asked how much has it reduced since 1924 which one year after terggy was formed. and there you are talking about 1915. how the hell does that make sense. was terggy formed in 1915. what are you smoking. cut it down it aint helping your brain or lungs ffs.

If Erdogan can use the Ottomans as his roots, why can't I use the Ottoman Empire as Turkey's roots?

Are there any distinctions between the two?

No, I didn't think so either!

otomans were controlled by the ottomans. not even the padishah was terggish, he was only an eighth terggish at best. his wife, children, the vezir and the army were all non-terggish. where as terggy today is as terggish as you can get government wise. but you have more urgent problems to deal with.

how long have you been feeling at the same level as erdogan. and even more importantly how long have you been asking questions and answering them yourself. man you need some serious help.

are you hearing voices.

[Kikapu]

you are really as stupid as your gc friends. assholes here are saying terggys days are numbered and that it has been reducing in size. i asked how much has it reduced since 1924 which one year after terggy was formed. and there you are talking about 1915. how the hell does that make sense. was terggy formed in 1915. what are you smoking. cut it down it aint helping your brain or lungs ffs.

If Erdogan can use the Ottomans as his roots, why can't I use the Ottoman Empire as Turkey's roots?

Are there any distinctions between the two?

No, I didn't think so either!

otomans were controlled by the ottomans. not even the padishah was terggish, he was only an eighth terggish at best. his wife, children, the vezir and the army were all non-terggish. where as terggy today is as terggish as you can get government wise. but you have more urgent problems to deal with.

how long have you been feeling at the same level as erdogan. and even more importantly how long have you been asking questions and answering them yourself. man you need some serious help.

are you hearing voices.

Oh yes, I hear your nonsense ALL the time!

[Lordo]

i would get it seen to if i was you. thank god i am not you.

on another issue of courase you do realise that erdogan is pontian from a town called potamia in garadeniz terggy. what do you expect from a greek discard.

[Pyrpolizer]

If there going to be any guarantees then they must be very specific, and very detailed. We will not accept any guarantees that will be vague giving anyone the right to act at will. For example the 1960 guarantees were presumably for preserving the constitutional order. With those guarantees Turkey could "interfere" even if there was a unanimous vote for changing just one law of the constitution, or even when one law was by mistake unconstitutional. Remember what happened in 1963 with the proposal of the 13 points? Several such laws already happen in RoC as for example the recent parliament law that the shops should be closed on Sundays. The Government thinks it’s unconstitutional…Furthermore with that vagueness Turkey could translate those guarantees as meaning invading and occupying almost half of Cyprus, doing ethnic cleansing, stealing lands and properties etc etc.
Regarding the idea that Turkey should only "guarantee" the TC Fed state, I wonder if that would be any better than the vague 1960 guarantees.Firstly the TC Fed State would just be a region within the Federation. How about the it’s powers at Federal level? I am not so sure those guarantees are suitable either. Unless they are examined in their every detail and be very very specific they should not be accepted either.
Furthermore it should be the exclusive right of people of Cyprus to abolish them if they vote positively in separate referenda every say 3 years.

[Jerry]

The guarantees effectively mean that the ROC is not and never has been a sovereign State. It would be interesting to see what international courts thought about the matter. In the meantime, and as a compromise, in order to keep the talks on track the ROC may be advised to accept guarantees but only for the northern component. Enforcement of the guarantee by Turkey would almost certainly be a consequence of a breakdown of the federation/confederation anyway.