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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Lordo » Mon May 18, 2015 3:50 pm

listen jerry. when you sign a contract are you allowed to pull off any time you please. where did you learn your contract law. where in this universe does such a thing exists. roc uk greace and terggy singned this contract. can you please explain to me how it can be removed. which court will remove it under what precedent. have you all lost your senses. its like talking to a 2 year old child.

no charlui you cant have a new toy, we agreed on that yesterday.

but mummy i want one today, i changed my mind.

slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

get it.
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Paphitis » Mon May 18, 2015 4:47 pm

Lordo wrote:listen jerry. when you sign a contract are you allowed to pull off any time you please. where did you learn your contract law. where in this universe does such a thing exists. roc uk greace and terggy singned this contract. can you please explain to me how it can be removed. which court will remove it under what precedent. have you all lost your senses. its like talking to a 2 year old child.

no charlui you cant have a new toy, we agreed on that yesterday.

but mummy i want one today, i changed my mind.

slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

get it.


Turkey breached the contract a long time ago!
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Jerry » Mon May 18, 2015 6:32 pm

Lordo wrote:listen jerry. when you sign a contract are you allowed to pull off any time you please. where did you learn your contract law. where in this universe does such a thing exists. roc uk greace and terggy singned this contract. can you please explain to me how it can be removed. which court will remove it under what precedent. have you all lost your senses. its like talking to a 2 year old child.

no charlui you cant have a new toy, we agreed on that yesterday.

but mummy i want one today, i changed my mind.

slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

get it.

I studied The Law of Contract for four years, idiot. There's such a thing as breach of contract and Turkey broke it when it ethnically cleansed, colonised and divided the island. Shove that where the sun don't shine!

Strictly speaking it's an international agreement not a contract in the usual sense, but no doubt the same principles apply especially if Lordo says so :lol:
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Kikapu » Mon May 18, 2015 6:36 pm

Lordo wrote:listen jerry. when you sign a contract are you allowed to pull off any time you please. where did you learn your contract law. where in this universe does such a thing exists. roc uk greace and terggy singned this contract. can you please explain to me how it can be removed. which court will remove it under what precedent. have you all lost your senses. its like talking to a 2 year old child.

no charlui you cant have a new toy, we agreed on that yesterday.

but mummy i want one today, i changed my mind.

slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

get it.


You don't know what the hell you are talking about, Lordo.

Lets use the below example, then apply it to Cyprus.

When SWISSAIR was flying for many many years, they had many contracts signed with the employees, banks, suppliers, airports, stock market and so on. When SWISSAIR shutdown 10+ years ago, ALL those contracts became null & void and many people lost their jobs, stocks and money. When SWISSAIR became just SWISS shortly after, every contract had to be re-negotiated before it can fly with new contracts. Those who lost everything with SWISSAIR, their loses were not given back to them when the airline became just SWISS.

Now, substitute SWISSAIR to ROC, and substitute SWISS to CYPRUS FEDERATION and you can see the parallels.

The fact that Turkey has no intention giving up her guarantee rights in the ROC's "contract" is up to Turkey, but it does not mean Turkey has any legal rights in CYPRUS FEDERATION to have ANY guarantor rights if CYPRUS FEDERATION does not sign a new contract with Turkey. Turkey cannot force CYPRUS FEDERATION to sign any contract with Turkey. ALL Turkey can do is be a spoiler in settlement talks by preventing the TCs from reaching an agreement with the GCs on a new CYPRUS FEDERATION. In the end, the TCs will pay the price by being left in a limbo without a future in the north. TCs biggest "enemy" today is not the GCs, but Turkey. The ball really is in the TCs corner in how they want their future to be. Free and equal Cypriot citizens or with no future in the north and gradually become extinct, caused by Turkey. This will be how Turkey genocide the TCs in the 21st Century, just as how the Ottomans genocide the Armenians in the 20th Century.
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby bill cobbett » Mon May 18, 2015 9:24 pm

Hang on a mo boys...!!! ...

Let's get the basics straight please...

1. The Republic wasn't a signatory to the Unholy Trinity of ToG. Isn't that right...???

2. ... and let's not talk about Turkey's guarantor "rights", Jerkey doesn't have any rights whatsoever on CY. (It had a duty to act, and not necessarily act militarily, to restore a constitution)
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Nikitas » Mon May 18, 2015 9:34 pm

Kikapu has a MAJOR point. If the RoC is dissolved and a new entity created, existing treaties will have to be individually validated by the new entity.

There is an irony in this. Turkey insists on dissolution of the RoC, but wants to retain the guarantees for all three guarantor powers.

The RoC does not want to be dissolved and rejects the notion of the virgin birth of a new state. It would rather have the new entity be a continuation of the old, yet rejects the status of any foreign nations as guarantors.

Personally, I think that the final compromise will be a separate guarantee for each constituent region with the rights of each guarantor power stopping at the demarcation line, a sort of territorial guarantee to its co ethnic community and not further. Stationing of troops will be allowed with restrictions that will prevent these troops from visiting the "other" region, even as tourists.

There can be no stronger indication of partition than this.
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Lordo » Mon May 18, 2015 10:09 pm

Jerry wrote:
Lordo wrote:listen jerry. when you sign a contract are you allowed to pull off any time you please. where did you learn your contract law. where in this universe does such a thing exists. roc uk greace and terggy singned this contract. can you please explain to me how it can be removed. which court will remove it under what precedent. have you all lost your senses. its like talking to a 2 year old child.

no charlui you cant have a new toy, we agreed on that yesterday.

but mummy i want one today, i changed my mind.

slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

get it.

I studied The Law of Contract for four years, idiot. There's such a thing as breach of contract and Turkey broke it when it ethnically cleansed, colonised and divided the island. Shove that where the sun don't shine!

Strictly speaking it's an international agreement not a contract in the usual sense, but no doubt the same principles apply especially if Lordo says so :lol:

if thats the case the case whats all the fuss about. you take terggy to court and remove her from her obligations. why you not done that. thats how break a contract not like a cockerel at dawn.

enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFhUzAwDEz4
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Jerry » Mon May 18, 2015 10:33 pm

Lordo wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Lordo wrote:listen jerry. when you sign a contract are you allowed to pull off any time you please. where did you learn your contract law. where in this universe does such a thing exists. roc uk greace and terggy singned this contract. can you please explain to me how it can be removed. which court will remove it under what precedent. have you all lost your senses. its like talking to a 2 year old child.

no charlui you cant have a new toy, we agreed on that yesterday.

but mummy i want one today, i changed my mind.

slaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

get it.

I studied The Law of Contract for four years, idiot. There's such a thing as breach of contract and Turkey broke it when it ethnically cleansed, colonised and divided the island. Shove that where the sun don't shine!

Strictly speaking it's an international agreement not a contract in the usual sense, but no doubt the same principles apply especially if Lordo says so :lol:

if thats the case the case whats all the fuss about. you take terggy to court and remove her from her obligations. why you not done that. thats how break a contract not like a cockerel at dawn.

enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFhUzAwDEz4


Now you are being really silly, "take Turkey to court". Turkey takes no notice of any court or international body - it does as it pleases until it is squeezed.
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Lordo » Mon May 18, 2015 10:43 pm

on the contrary my friend, take turkey to international court and get her guarantorship removed and do not worry about enforcing it. lets have it in law and the rest will follow.
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Re: cyprus talks to resume may 15,2015

Postby Paphitis » Tue May 19, 2015 9:29 am

Lordo wrote:on the contrary my friend, take turkey to international court and get her guarantorship removed and do not worry about enforcing it. lets have it in law and the rest will follow.


We don't need to.

A new country or entity will be born, and Treaties like this one have to be ratified.

The GCs will not accept a Federation with these types a treaties, so there we have it in a nutshell = DEAD END!

We will just continue on our merry way with all the International Recognition.
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