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Re: O X I !!!

Postby Nikitas » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:50 am

Guys,

Going to the drachma and expecting things to remain the same is total madness. This country IMPORTS 70 per cent of it raw materials, over 80 per cent of its food. How can you expect prices to remain stable when you import, ie pay with foreign currency which is purchased with devalued local currency? In the 70s we had an annual devaluation of the drchma, due to natural currency fluctuation, not official dvaluation, up to 36 per cent annually!!!!

Seeing the people involved in the negotiating disaster of the last six months, would you trust them to be in charge of money printing? With a revised status of the Bank of Greece, ie it will no longer be an independent authority subject to the ECB, but locally governed.

Be honest now!
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby miltiades » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:58 am

Nikitas wrote:Guys,

Going to the drachma and expecting things to remain the same is total madness. This country IMPORTS 70 per cent of it raw materials, over 80 per cent of its food. How can you expect prices to remain stable when you import, ie pay with foreign currency which is purchased with devalued local currency? In the 70s we had an annual devaluation of the drchma, due to natural currency fluctuation, not official dvaluation, up to 36 per cent annually!!!!

Seeing the people involved in the negotiating disaster of the last six months, would you trust them to be in charge of money printing? With a revised status of the Bank of Greece, ie it will no longer be an independent authority subject to the ECB, but locally governed.

Be honest now!

Absolutely correct. Greece must remain in the EZ if any progress is made.
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby Garavnoss » Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:29 pm

Miltiades wrote: Fuck that I said to my other third.



Glad to know that your other third also experiences your inability to express yourself without resorting to filthy language. :lol:
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby miltiades » Tue Jul 21, 2015 1:00 pm

Garavnoss wrote:
Miltiades wrote: Fuck that I said to my other third.



Glad to know that your other third also experiences your inability to express yourself without resorting to filthy language. :lol:


FUCK OFF !
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby Garavnoss » Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:29 pm

miltiades wrote:
Garavnoss wrote:
Miltiades wrote: Fuck that I said to my other third.



Glad to know that your other third also experiences your inability to express yourself without resorting to filthy language. :lol:


FUCK OFF !


As stated. :lol: :lol:
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby Nikitas » Tue Jul 21, 2015 3:09 pm

From today's report by the Civil Service Inspector General:

"6. η μείωση της γραφειοκρατίας με την συνεχή απλούστευση των διαδικασιών και επέκταση
της ηλεκτρονικής διακυβέρνησης που ήδη άρχισε να εφαρμόζεται σταδιακά. Χρήσιμο θα
ήταν το κράτος να αποκτήσει επιτέλους εμπιστοσύνη στους πολίτες και όχι, στην προσπάθεια
του να προστατευθεί, να ορθώνει διάφορα γραφειοκρατικά εμπόδια,"

"6-Decrease of buraucracy hrough the continuous simplifcation of procedures and extension of computerised administration that began to be applied gradually. It would be useful if the state starts to trust the citizens and not, in its attempt to protect itself, raise various buraucratic obstacles,"

This applies to most buraucarcy laden countries, the IG could have been talking about Belarus and the problems Milti faced there.

It is hopeful that at least one Greek official can diagnose the problem and offer a solution. Not that politicians listen that much.

The IG is an honorary judge of the supreme court.
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:16 pm

I'm just amazed the German Embassy is still standing.

Mark my words people. I foresee a lot of social unrest in the near future. Greece is a powder keg waiting to explode.

There is no way Greeks will leave this National Humiliation go unanswered. The EZ has just signed its own death warrant.

Greece is now under occupation. It won a battle against the Eurothugs but lost the war, until next time that is.

We shall be talking again in about 3 years from now.
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby miltiades » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:55 pm

Paphitis wrote:I'm just amazed the German Embassy is still standing.

Mark my words people. I foresee a lot of social unrest in the near future. Greece is a powder keg waiting to explode.

There is no way Greeks will leave this National Humiliation go unanswered. The EZ has just signed its own death warrant.

Greece is now under occupation. It won a battle against the Eurothugs but lost the war, until next time that is.

We shall be talking again in about 3 years from now.

The Greeks have no one to blame but them selves. This " humiliation" was self inflicted. First they have to undertake a great deal of changes to their borrowing habits. You can not expect the lenders to forego money owed by Greece.
There will be no social unrest more like social amends.
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:16 pm

Thealonikis reformist mayor Boutaris, interesting fellow. This all goes back to that Greece is a hard country to govern from Ancient times to today. There are too many geographical barriers the sea, the mountainous terrain. The central government has to give authorities in the local areas more freedom to act.


http://www.spiegel.de/international/eur ... 15289.html

"...But Boutaris also intends to ask officials in other countries how they dispose of their garbage and manage their ports. No one can repair or improve a broken system, he says. "It has to be discarded, and something else has to take its place," says Boutaris..."
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Re: O X I !!!

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:18 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I'm just amazed the German Embassy is still standing.

Mark my words people. I foresee a lot of social unrest in the near future. Greece is a powder keg waiting to explode.

There is no way Greeks will leave this National Humiliation go unanswered. The EZ has just signed its own death warrant.

Greece is now under occupation. It won a battle against the Eurothugs but lost the war, until next time that is.

We shall be talking again in about 3 years from now.

The Greeks have no one to blame but them selves. This " humiliation" was self inflicted. First they have to undertake a great deal of changes to their borrowing habits. You can not expect the lenders to forego money owed by Greece.
There will be no social unrest more like social amends.


No sorry but no country deserves what was served up to Greece.

National sovereignty has to respected and now Greece has to do whatever it takes to stand on its feet and prepare for all eventualities. This will not go unanswered. The best thing about Greeks is how they are unwilling to conform to the toxicity of the EZ. They are not slaves and when they get pushed into the corner, then watch out.

Tick tock tick tock.

If you want to be a part of this skullduggery then that is your business and I am not surprised but I am no bitch. The war will continue, mark my words.
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