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Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:51 pm

Who is brave enough or strong enough to stop this despot and megalomaniac killing-machine?

Erdogan hopes a new poll, after weeks of fighting the Kurds, will draw the support of nationalists attracted by the anti-terror narrative and splinter the HDP. Only then, with a restored majority, would Erdogan turn his attention to a groundswell that could define the region’s very future. The danger is that the increasingly mercurial Turkish leader is in danger of pursuing his own political and national interests at the expense of the search for a wider regional settlement that could at last offer peace to the region.


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Re: Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:59 pm

what we need is greace to man up and attack erdogan and do the terggs a big favour. after all last time when the fascists were in government in greace it was the terggs intervention that saved the gcs in cyprus and griiks in greace.
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Re: Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:32 pm

Lordo wrote:what we need is greace to man up and attack erdogan and do the terggs a big favour. after all last time when the fascists were in government in greace it was the terggs intervention that saved the gcs in cyprus and griiks in greace.


Who needs saving? The Kurds? The Syrians? The Iraqis? The Iranians? What have they to do with Greece?

Are you proposing an uncalled for Greek invasion that will ethnically cleanse 20 million Turks from their homes and kill some 10 million plus make some 4 million disappear as a solution? Then, set up apartheid and destroy all signs of Turkish habitation in nearly 50% of Turkey whilst trying to find some 20 million Greeks to colonise the occupied areas?

That's the only equivalent that makes sense of your proposal.

Of course, going by what made it all possible for Turkey in 1974, we would need a Kissinger-equivalent from the States to assist in this endeavour...

Much simpler for the Turks to have another coup and oust the despot and no one interfere! But of course, that's assuming Turkish people have a backbone and some sense of morality.
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Re: Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby Lordo » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:14 pm

surely being the mother of democracy you owe it to the people near greace to save them not just sink them with your financial bankruptcy. never mind the rest, your terggish brothers and sisters need your help to save them from erdogan.
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Re: Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby Maximus » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:24 am

Perhaps ISIS will stage a coup in Turkey because Turkey is in their plans for their caliphate.

The Greeks should then conduct a peace operation and ethnically cleanse 40% of western Anatolia to save the Turks.

What do you say Bordo? Makes sense to you right?
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Re: Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:17 am

Erdoğan has obviously set his sights on fresh elections in the autumn, and has embarked on a strategy of reigniting the disastrous civil war of the 80's and 90's on the grounds that this will attract the votes of nationalists to the AKP and enable them to be returned with a majority. Sadly, the polls are showing an increase of around 2% in support for the AKP since the implementation of this deaths for votes policy. Erdoğan is obviously getting desperate and this strategy could still backfire. Those of us who wish to see the end of this tyrant and Turkey develop as a secular democracy can only hope so.
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Postby kurupetos » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:25 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Erdoğan has obviously set his sights on fresh elections in the autumn, and has embarked on a strategy of reigniting the disastrous civil war of the 80's and 90's on the grounds that this will attract the votes of nationalists to the AKP and enable them to be returned with a majority. Sadly, the polls are showing an increase of around 2% in support for the AKP since the implementation of this deaths for votes policy. Erdoğan is obviously getting desperate and this strategy could still backfire. Those of us who wish to see the end of this tyrant and Turkey develop as a secular democracy can only hope so.

Why would anyone want that, Tim? :?

My wish is to see the end of Turkey (or Terggy in Lurucadi :? ), the establishment of a Kurdish state and the freedom of Asia Minor. :wink:
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Re: Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:57 am

I essentially have the same aspiration for all of humanity, which includes the Middle East, and a successful secular democracy in Turkey will offer a model for the whole region, which hopefully will take it out of the mire in which it currently finds yourself. You will find that of the roughly seven billion people on the planet, only the 20 or so million people of Greek origin (0.3%) who have been brainwashed from birth with an irrational hatred of Turks and Turkey share your view - the rest don't. There is obviously no scope for debate with those holding views that lack any rational basis, so just enjoy your silly delusions.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:11 am

Tim Drayton wrote:I essentially have the same aspiration for all of humanity, which includes the Middle East, and a successful secular democracy in Turkey will offer a model for the whole region, which hopefully will take it out of the mire in which it currently finds yourself. You will find that of the roughly seven billion people on the planet, only the 20 or so million people of Greek origin (0.3%) who have been brainwashed from birth with an irrational hatred of Turks and Turkey share your view - the rest don't. There is obviously no scope for debate with those holding views that lack any rational basis, so just enjoy your silly delusions.


Tim, you shouldn't lump all 20 million Greeks in the same basket. It would be an incredible insult to even suggest that all Greeks compare to some of the dimwits that post in this forum.

I for one do not possess any irrational hatred towards Turkey or Turkish People. The people and the country is fine, despite it having some issues at present as is Greece.

What I hate is Turkey's continued international law violations against the Republic of Cyprus, the continued illegal occupation and the crimes Turkey committed against the island.

In addition, I would say there are millions of Greeks who feel the same way but do not have the irrational hatred you speak of.
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Re: Erdogan's Megalomania Fuels Terrorism!

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:15 pm

Yes, I am probably going too much by the views I see here. My hopes and aspirations for the Eastern Mediterranean is for a repeat of what we have seen in Western Europe over the past 70 years, with countries previously locked in a destructive cycle of hostility and combat establishing good neighbourly relations, although, as you say, every country has to recognise and respect international law for that to happen. I think this scenario is far more possible given a Turkey that is developing in the direction of a secular democracy than one in the hands of a tyrannical lunatic.
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