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[miltiades]

This was an atrocious incident. It is beyond my comprehension that some people here seek to exonerate these policemen.

That was a disgraceful act totally reprehensible. The man might very well have been known to the police even as a common criminal, however the police are there to uphold the law not to inflict violence on a suspect.

[Get Real!]

This was an atrocious incident. It is beyond my comprehension that some people here seek to exonerate these policemen.

I couldn’t care less if a small number of criminals get a beating or two if it means that my country will be a safer place to live. As a law abiding person (minus a few traffic violations) I know that I’ll never be one of the capricious ones challenging the authority so I’ve got nothing to fear.

As for those wanting to weaken the Police at the grave risk of strengthening crime for the sake of the Human Rights of selfish criminals who don’t have a care for society… I can only question their IQs.

Your families are far more important than the Human Rights of those who have no respect for themselves let alone you and will gladly make you their victim, so start using your heads and get your priorities in order... the lot of you!

[erolz66]

I couldn’t care less if a small number of criminals get a beating or two if it means that my country will be a safer place to live. As a law abiding person (minus a few traffic violations) I know that I’ll never be one of the capricious ones challenging the authority so I’ve got nothing to fear.

The point is do you care if a small number of people who are NOT criminals get a beating or two, if it makes the place you live 'safer' (for those who do not get such beatings) ? The idea that the police are infallible and thus would only ever beat 'criminals' is absurd. Should they be able to beat anyone they think is criminal ? Or should it depend on the severity of how criminal ? Or only those that refuse to co operate with them ? What constitutes 'non co operation' ? Giving the police a 'funny look' maybe ? Is that sufficient grounds to warrant a summary beating ?

Allowing and supporting the notion that the police can and should operate outside of the law themselves 'to make you safer' is itself absurd.

[Get Real!]

The point is do you care if a small number of people who are NOT criminals get a beating or two, if it makes the place you live 'safer' (for those who do not get such beatings) ?

I trust that our Police force will use their good judgement before handing out such punishment. The last time such a thing happened was in 2011 I think, so it's fair to say that they are isolated cases in the RoC.

The idea that the police are infallible and thus would only ever beat 'criminals' is absurd. Should they be able to beat anyone they think is criminal ? Or should it depend on the severity of how criminal ? Or only those that refuse to co operate with them ? What constitutes 'non co operation' ? Giving the police a 'funny look' maybe ? Is that sufficient grounds to warrant a summary beating ?

I didn't say they're infallible but I certainly don't think it's worth making a scene out of it and thus elevate the criminal community, when a mistake is made.

Again, I trust that our Police force will use their good judgement.

I just don't buy the notion that cops wake up one morning and decide to go beat the shit out of someone because they had nothing better to do!

Allowing and supporting the notion that the police can and should operate outside of the law themselves 'to make you safer' is itself absurd.

I'm not so sure it's outside the law... there's a time to beat and there's a time to shoot when you're a cop. I'll let the courts decide although I've already made my decision... non compliance with basics is enough violation for me to warrant a beating.

God knows what this is gonna cost the state now in our difficult financial situation and all because some little shit refused to abide by the law and caused a commotion!

I'd love to hand this spoiled fucker the BILL at the end of it all!


Now here's a question for you Erol:

Having been beaten to a pulp, what's the probability that this wiseguy will not comply again the next time he's asked to be frisked?

[Tim Drayton]

This was an atrocious incident. It is beyond my comprehension that some people here seek to exonerate these policemen.

I couldn’t care less if a small number of criminals get a beating or two if it means that my country will be a safer place to live. As a law abiding person (minus a few traffic violations) I know that I’ll never be one of the capricious ones challenging the authority so I’ve got nothing to fear.

As for those wanting to weaken the Police at the grave risk of strengthening crime for the sake of the Human Rights of selfish criminals who don’t have a care for society… I can only question their IQs.

Your families are far more important than the Human Rights of those who have no respect for themselves let alone you and will gladly make you their victim, so start using your heads and get your priorities in order... the lot of you!

If you stopped to think for a minute, you would realise that you were guilty of contradiction.

One the one hand, you say that you want to live in peace and security - and so do I - and this is surely a basic human right. On the other hand, the right of a person suspected by the police to be treated in accordance with due procedure is also a human right. You cannot support one set of human rights and deny another set without making nonsense of the very notion of human rights.

[Lordo]

gr's mentalidy is what caused the cyprus problem. i see that the actual problem is still there. that police can dish out punishment is beyond belief. when one person becomes judge jury and executioner is when we descend into chaos like the 60s and the 70s.

asshole that you are gr what you really need is one of these policemen to mistake you for a criminal and punish you accordingly and you will soon change your mind you keyboard coward.

[Sotos]

gr's mentalidy is what caused the cyprus problem. i see that the actual problem is still there. that police can dish out punishment is beyond belief. when one person becomes judge jury and executioner is when we descend into chaos like the 60s and the 70s.

asshole that you are gr what you really need is one of these policemen to mistake you for a criminal and punish you accordingly and you will soon change your mind you keyboard coward.

What caused the Cyprus problem is the Turkish mentality that they have a "right" to impose what they want undemocratically. Whenever there is something bad happening in the RoC you are trying to use it as a "proof" that GCs are "evil" to excuse your crimes against us when the truth is that in just about everything related to human rights and governing the Turks are far WORST.

[Get Real!]

If you stopped to think for a minute, you would realise that you were guilty of contradiction.

One the one hand, you say that you want to live in peace and security - and so do I - and this is surely a basic human right. On the other hand, the right of a person suspected by the police to be treated in accordance with due procedure is also a human right. You cannot support one set of human rights and deny another set without making nonsense of the very notion of human rights.

But you’re conveniently ignoring the fact that this individual had…

1. Refused to be frisked
2. Assaulted a police officer
3. Was taken to jail where he refused to comply with the jail process
4. He was screwing the cops around for 3-4 hours before the video incident took place.

So, I’d say that this chap FORFEITED his Human Rights by stepping all over the Human Rights of the cops, the citizens, and the State .

A good beating was in order…

[Get Real!]

gr's mentalidy is what caused the cyprus problem. i see that the actual problem is still there. that police can dish out punishment is beyond belief. when one person becomes judge jury and executioner is when we descend into chaos like the 60s and the 70s.

asshole that you are gr what you really need is one of these policemen to mistake you for a criminal and punish you accordingly and you will soon change your mind you keyboard coward.

You’ve lived in England for many years I understand, so you should know very well the sorry state that the British Police are in and how they got there…

Is that what you want for Cyprus? Are you sure?

[Sotos]

A good beating was in order…

No GR... especially when he was already down and they kept hitting him. They could have used as much force as was needed to throw him in a cell, and then a court would judge his behavior and sentence him accordingly. What we need are stricter courts, not uneducated police officers deciding the punishment. Also we need stricter courts for when the police is not polite and they misuse their position. I was also stopped for traffic violations and I comply because so far the policemen are polite with me. But I remember one time (many years ago) when I was at some deserted hill late at night with my girlfriend (not doing anything illegal), and some police car arrived and the two cops were acting a bit like assholes implying I must be doing something wrong. They didn't persist too much and they left, but I remember how I started to get a bit pissed off at them. It is not hard to imagine how an asshole policeman assuming that the other person is doing something illegal, would behave inappropriately and cause the other person to react.