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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:18 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:

...about 30 minutes.

...is this propaganda, you decide.

Come on RW what looks like a bullshit and smells like a bullshit is bullshit. Hamas was elected and as soon as they were, the borders closed all round them. They had done nothing wrong. If anything back in the 90s they actually supported the Oslo accord despite what it said in their objectives. They also changed their objectives back in 2017, I suggest you read it. Anybody who stands between two Azraeli flag to talk is an Azraeli or their apologist but most of all they are full of shit. If anybody cannot be trusted is Azrael particularly Nutenyahu and I have no doubt all the Zionists in Azrael too.

They can all go to hell.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:56 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Is it just me but ......

Every video posted on here is 'Unavailable and Restricted" ! I can see nothing! :?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMeWY4w-N5c

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Thank you. It seems to have rectified itself ...... I didn't do anything knowingly! :oops:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Londonrake » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:04 pm

You're welcome.
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:45 pm

Just one of the reasons I don’t place very much faith in the MSM. This guy has researched from mainly Israeli sources and comes up with a very different picture of events on 7th October 2023.

The Real News, The Chris Hedges Report.

What really happened in Israel on Oct. 7 ? w/Max Blumenthal 622,558 views Premiered Nov 17, 2023 (He seems to have more readers than many MSM publications ......

For all the sensationalism surrounding the events of Oct. 7, when Hamas broke through the Gaza fence and seized territory in the Gaza Envelope as part of Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, there is still much that we do not know. The official Israeli death toll from the attack is estimated at 1,200 civilians, revised from an initial estimate of 1,400. Among this figure are several hundred civilians, which Israel says were killed by Hamas militants. Other testimony from survivors of Oct. 7 suggests an alternative explanation—that in its fervor to defeat Hamas, Israeli commanders may have willingly targeted and sacrificed Israeli soldiers and civilians in the crossfire.

Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone joins The Chris Hedges Report for an in-depth look.

Video ..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0gECjlpXF8
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Lordo » Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:51 pm

Bit by bit, day by day a bit more of the truth is coming out. Azraeli public are in for a shocks when they find out what IDF did to their own people.
Israeli media has reported the children, who were British-Israeli, were held hostage by Hamas gunmen in a building that caught fire during a stand-off with Israeli forces.


I wonder how the fire started. Let me see now, it was not the IDF firing a hellfire missile at the building implementing Hannibal Directive was it?

No No No, it can't be right?
IDF does not kill their own civilians do they?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67495736
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Nov 24, 2023 3:31 am

“We are the only EU state which is making a very concrete, structured, coherent effort in consultation with the Palestinians, conveying their concerns, proposals, suggestions and reflections.” Kombos noted that that Nicosia is in regular contact with Palestinians over the issue, without delving into specifics.
https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/11/21/fore ... -gaza-war/


''Foreign minister defends Cyprus’ stance on Israel-Gaza war''
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:15 am

IDF Knew Real Hamas HQ While Lying About al-Shifa - Consortium News November 23, 2023

While telling the world that Hamas HQ was under al-Shifa Hospital, the IDF had already found the actual command center 8.5km away, reports Gareth Porter.

Although corporate news media have made it clear they don’t buy the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) claim that al-Shifa Hospital has been a cover for a Hamas command and control center and weapons armory, Western media have failed to report a much bigger story.

The IDF and the Israeli government already knew when they launched their propaganda campaign about al-Shifa that Hamas had no military command and control facility hidden there because it had already found the complex kilometers away.

https://consortiumnews.com/2023/11/23/idf-knew-real-hamas-hq-while-lying-about-al-shifa/


The Jerusalem Post article embedded in the above .......

The IDF on Tuesday unveiled new details regarding Hamas’s “pit” headquarters which is underground from its above-ground military high command site in Gaza City, which it took over several days ago.

While the IDF knew that the military high command area and some connected tunnel network would be hard to take, and assigned both high-powered Units 401 and Givati troops to do so, senior officials were surprised by the scope and sophistication of what could only be described as similar to the IDF’s “pit” under the Kirya military headquarters in Tel Aviv.

Part of this network included a special shaft with an elevator that did not merely go the conventional three to five meters underground that many Hamas tunnels run but rather reached an almost unheard-of depth of 30 meters.

The elevator could fit around seven people.

Part of this network included a special shaft with an elevator that did not merely go the conventional three to five meters underground that many Hamas tunnels run but rather reached an almost unheard-of depth of 30 meters.

Inside the bottom of this special tunnel, the IDF found signs that Hamas’s high command had hidden there, with a top official speculating that this could very well have included: Gaza Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar and Hamas military chief Mohammed Deif.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-773237



It will be interesting to see if the Israeli's allow the press immediate access to the released hostages? My bet is they will immediately prevent any of them telling the story before the IDF can edit the narrative ....... just like they did in the above! :?
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:19 am

Just an observation.

After over a month of the Zionist Nazis murdering thousands of Palestinian citizens through acts of War Crimes when we are told this is a war between Israel vs. Hamas, and yet, the IDF has not been able to find one hostage from the estimated 240 to be rescued, which then must mean, they haven’t been able to find and hostages anywhere or any Hamas members holding them, so now Israel is forced to accept a ceasefire to get back some of the hostages in a proper way through negotiations. So much for the IDFs ability to fight Hamas in urban warfare with their supposedly advance intelligence gathering skills. :roll:
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Re: ...I'd like to visit Gaza one day.

Postby Kikapu » Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:55 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Kikapu wrote:What can I say, that even a broken clock has some use twice a day! :D


Ahh but, come on. :wink: What you’re saying is anything that puts a hole in the (nonsensical) claim that the western MSM is controlled in its entirety can be dismissed as a “broken clock” aberration. That’s handy. :D

Perhaps a reasonable example of the lack of supposed "control"? In the past few days the BBC have run an expose of a cover up wrt alleged UK Special Forces atrocities in Afghanistan. Tick-tock?

It’s by no means the first time they’ve publicly dug the dirt on murky SAS/SBS activities, either.

I doubt the like of Nixon, Trump, Johnson or the UK MPs that ended up doing time for expenses fraud would agree the press was controlled.


Oops! :roll:

EXCLUSIVE
News|Israel-Palestine conflict

As Israel pounds Gaza, BBC journalists accuse broadcaster of bias

In the latest newsroom fallout over the war, BBC journalists say the corporation is failing to humanise Palestinians.

London, United Kingdom – The BBC has been accused by its journalists of failing to tell the story of the Israel-Palestine conflict accurately, investing greater effort in humanising Israeli victims compared with Palestinians, and omitting key historical context in coverage.

In a 2,300-word letter written to Al Jazeera by eight UK-based journalists employed by the corporation, the BBC is also said to be guilty of a “double standard in how civilians are seen”, given that it is “unflinching” in its reporting of alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/ ... er-of-bias
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