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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby Maximus » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:40 pm

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And you want anyone to believe and support the opposite. The result is upwards of 200K dead, several million refugees and now ISIS.

Then you want everyone to accept and pay for refugees and throw scorn on anyone who has an opposite opinion (which could have prevented it all) for not be sensitive to their needs.


You can't suppress all the Sunnis, Christians, and Kurds forever and expect to get away with it Max.

I suppose those not in Assad's favour want a new beginning. That wouldn't be happening if all was good with Assad my good friend.

And don't tell me about all the dead. we know who is responsible for all the dead, and DAESH are only responsible for a small percentage.


Well, this is what is happening to the Christians in Saudi. They are being suppressed/oppressed and prosecuted for practicing Christianity, even in their own homes. The house of Saud does not protect freedom of religion and should be left alone according to you though. The opposite is true in Syria though, right?

You just dont or wont listen mate;

Opposition groups in Syria took a new turn in late 2011, during the Syrian Civil War, as they united to form the Syrian National Council (SNC),[4] which has received significant international support and recognition as a partner for dialogue. The Syrian National Council was recognized or supported in "some capacity" by at least 17 member states of the United Nations, with three of those (France, United Kingdom and the United States) being permanent members of the Security Council.[5][6][7][8][9][10] The Syrian National Council is considered to be influenced by the Muslim Brotherhood and include many affiliated members.[u] The Islamic Front, a major anti-regime Islamist Sunni militia during the Syrian Civil War, is affiliated with the Syrian National Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition

Is this who you are supporting?
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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:06 pm

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Maximus wrote:
And you want anyone to believe and support the opposite. The result is upwards of 200K dead, several million refugees and now ISIS.

Then you want everyone to accept and pay for refugees and throw scorn on anyone who has an opposite opinion (which could have prevented it all) for not be sensitive to their needs.


You can't suppress all the Sunnis, Christians, and Kurds forever and expect to get away with it Max.

I suppose those not in Assad's favour want a new beginning. That wouldn't be happening if all was good with Assad my good friend.

And don't tell me about all the dead. we know who is responsible for all the dead, and DAESH are only responsible for a small percentage.


Well, this is what is happening to the Christians in Saudi. They are being suppressed/oppressed and prosecuted for practicing Christianity, even in their own homes. The house of Saud does not protect freedom of religion and should be left alone according to you though. The opposite is true in Syria though, right?

You just dont or wont listen mate;

Opposition groups in Syria took a new turn in late 2011, during the Syrian Civil War, as they united to form the Syrian National Council (SNC),[4] which has received significant international support and recognition as a partner for dialogue. The Syrian National Council was recognized or supported in "some capacity" by at least 17 member states of the United Nations, with three of those (France, United Kingdom and the United States) being permanent members of the Security Council.[5][6][7][8][9][10] The Syrian National Council is considered to be influenced by the Muslim Brotherhood and include many affiliated members.[u] The Islamic Front, a major anti-regime Islamist Sunni militia during the Syrian Civil War, is affiliated with the Syrian National Council.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_opposition

Is this who you are supporting?


KSA is generally not the right place for this, however I would not say they are persecuting Christians when they are employing westerners hand over fist.

They do however provide free education in Western run schools and there is a policy of freedom of worship and even religious studies behind closed doors.

The regime is happy to close its eyes to many things in order to keep everyone happy. In other words, they tell you to do what you want but on the quiet. The same with alcohol which they themselves bring to the compounds.

I already told you that at the moment we do not support any groups in Syria other than the Kurds. We do not support Assad either but isn't he very fortunate that we have let him get away with all his shit which in actual fact created all the opposition forces that we detest.

This was his master stroke of genius!

Pity it has resulted in:
300,000 dead Syrians
8 million Syrians displaced,
and 4 million refugees.
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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:46 pm

Lordo wrote:who is responsible for the arab world mess.


I blame the so-called "prophet" for polluting too many people's minds with that crappy "religion".

If it wasn't for all the internal fuss originating from these f%&#ed up ideas forced upon everyone, tha arabs would be quite well off.
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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby Maximus » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:48 pm

Paphitis, you really don't listen mate and just keep blundering on.
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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:51 pm

Maximus wrote:Paphitis, you really don't listen mate and just keep blundering on.


Personally, I have good reason to believe that you are incapable of any in depth analysis of the situation.

It's all there for all to see.

Have you ever wondered what Russia things of the coalition's involvement in Syria? They love it because they have a huge problem with the same Islamists.
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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby Maximus » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:05 pm

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Maximus wrote:Paphitis, you really don't listen mate and just keep blundering on.


Personally, I have good reason to believe that you are incapable of any in depth analysis of the situation.

It's all there for all to see.

Have you ever wondered what Russia things of the coalition's involvement in Syria? They love it because they have a huge problem with the same Islamists.


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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:08 pm

Maximus wrote:
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Maximus wrote:Paphitis, you really don't listen mate and just keep blundering on.


Personally, I have good reason to believe that you are incapable of any in depth analysis of the situation.

It's all there for all to see.

Have you ever wondered what Russia things of the coalition's involvement in Syria? They love it because they have a huge problem with the same Islamists.


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Come on, don't play dumb.

The coalition and Putin don't see eye to eye generally, but they love the coalition forces fighting their battles!

Russia has a much bigger problem with Islamist extremist than any country in the coalition let me give you the tip.

If the coalition withdraws, Putin will cry like a baby because he will have to do all the work.
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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:55 pm

Yeh it's true and the Russians are not saying a word because the presence of the coalition serves their interests and Assad's!

But don't worry, we know what is going on.

This war is only personal for us. It's just a vendetta against the scourge of DAESH, nothing more. We do not have direct interests. The way in which Assad orchestrated all this was pure genius, but remember, what goes round comes round. What little comfort it must be that your little hero is under siege from the Jihadists and the Russians are just watching and preying that the Americans will do their dirty bidding to save Assad's arse.

All that for some bases.

If Russia touches any of our planes, their entire fleet will be on the ocean floor and they won't need a base. Problem solved!
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Re: who is responsible for the arab world mess.

Postby miltiades » Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:24 pm

Lordo wrote:this is for the benefit of the blind and deaf swine that roam the fora aimlessly spewing idiocities.

we will not go back to how the stupid brits set up the arab world to get cheap oil and bestowed upon the arab dictatorships that turned the arab world to hell for the people. not even creation of the jewish state on palestinian lands.

our lesson will begin from 1953. why 1953, because this is the time that baton for oppressing the third world was passed to the americans by the brits.

You are, without a shadow of a doubt, the forums Chief Idiot.
Who is killing who, you stupid moron ? Is it not muslims killing muslims, more than 300 thousands Syrians killed thus far, more will soon perish, millions becoming refugees, ever wonder what islam has ever contributed to the welfare of these impoverished folks ?
Sweet fuck all. The .....Arab awakening, my arse !!
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