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Postby pg » Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:20 pm

Alexios wrote:AKEL - Communists party (but not really)
DISY - Right , nationalists and capitalists
EDEK - Socialists
DIKO - Center right (or left whichever suits them)
Greens - Just one person really. But he is good
European party - Broke out of DISY after referendum. they seek a "European solution".
ADIK - its leader made lots of rousfeti and he still receives votes
EDI - Pull our pants down and bent kind of policy in the cyprus problem.
some smaller ones

The above are ofcourse how Piratis Views Political Parties in Cyprus
Below is my view on them:

AKEL - So called Communist Party with Capitalist connections.Recently a confused Party appearing to be in 2 or 3 !!minds regarding the Cyprus problem
DISY - Right wing party that strives hard to get rid of its nationalist image and succeeding to some extend at the expense of losing old nationalist support
EDEK - So called socialist party.More like nationalist painted red.
DIKO - The real playmakers in Cyprus politics since their vote is decisive.They pick and choose whatever suits them as Piratis rightly said and they are the real rousfeti teachers.
European party -DISY breakaways who joined a fool called Koutsou and think we can have a "European" solution to the Cyprus problem
ADIK - As Piratis said
EDI - The only real patriots in Cyprus.


I find this is really important discussion - if the parties actually has some stated ideologies, and followed them, then the political live could possibly produce something valuable... I'll through in my interpretations too:

DISY, 30%, strong "Greek" background among members, but really only as "Greek against the English" and at that time the oponents to the communists. Now more of a socio-liberal party - like the main European non-socialist large parties.
AKEL, 30%, unreformed communist party, probably unique in Europe in that sense. Since it is not really possible to be a communist anymore, they have no ideology and following the wind... It is however the large left-wing party that the 'working class' trusts, has union support, etc. Comparing rest of Europe it is really the Socialist (socialdemocratic) party. In general they have simple good people as members, but ended up in bed with the nationalists in order to come to power.
DIKO, 15%, hardcore nationalist since the beginning of time. Tying to steal 'the 'socialdemocrat' label before AKEL reforms.
EDEK, 5%, lost in the wind, also desperately trying for the 'socialdemocrate' label.
The rest are dissilutioned tiny parties, mainly populists without ideaologies.
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:22 pm

Alexios

I would like to hear a little more about EDI, Thank you.
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Postby Alexios » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:32 pm

Lets, for the sake of simplicity call them AKEL break aways.Until recently headed by ex President G.Vasiliou.Current leader is P.Papapetrou who was government spokesman under Clerides Government.They strongly supported the Annan Plan and they are very open in their criticism of the current government and especially the current AKEL leadership.
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:34 pm

why are they doing so badly in the votes?
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:41 pm

its kind of a different attitude towards elections zan. unlike turkey or tcs who they can give high majorities to any new leader and when he proves corrupt they punish him/her with virtually zero votes, the gcs are loyal to their parties. i would bet anything that more than 70% of gcs vote the same party as their father, and voted the same party for the last 30 years.
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Postby pg » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:46 pm

GCs are almost born into the parties - very difficult to change. Also EDI is almost a family show, with no grassrootes, and you do not win votes without grassrootes. However, I would say they are quite respected, and probably many peoples 'second best' party.
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Postby Alexios » Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:57 pm

Thats why it takes G/Cs 30 years to admit they were wrong about anything...:)))
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:04 pm

are you accusing us of being wrong?
who?
we?
thats not possible
shame on you alexios :twisted:

First,
we never mistakes.
Second,
when we do they are very small.
Third,
when they are big they are smaller than the mistakes of the others.
and
Fourth
when they are bigger it is not our fault.
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Postby Alexios » Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:06 pm

:)))))))
I was not referring to our political mistakes of the past only.The same attitude prevails in our every day life as well unfortunately...
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:29 pm

Are there no floating voters at all?

What do you think would happen if all the other parties disappeared over night and only the government and EDI were left?
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