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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:57 am

Atheist wrote:Can you defend what I quoted from Genesis?

Genesis doesn't need defending from the comments you made.


Atheist wrote:You said: "It is pointless in attempting to read holy books if you’re still unclear about the existence of God." If you want to retract that statement just say so.

Why would I retract perfect logic?

It simply says that one must first clear up in their head if there's a God or not and then act accordingly. If there's a God proceed to read his message (the bible) and if not then don't!

Why would you start reading someone's message if you're not convinced of its authenticity?


Atheist wrote:It is not a technical manual, its a fairytale.

Right, so someone is trying to tell a story and you’re hell bent on correcting them? :?

Stupid you for assuming you could! :lol:

Atheist wrote:A promise and a warning by those who created and administer the religion. A way to keep under control the stupid masses while those at the helm declare themselves as Saints and other forms of "mini Gods" and reap the benefits.

But putting the church aside, and Orthodoxy aside, and every other religion aside, we’ve still got one “little” problem… an everlasting complex universe is *there* and you can’t explain how or why! :lol:

Looks like you're stuck and it's not the church's fault! :)
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Atheist » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:06 am

The bible is dangerous in your hands because you are prone to misinterpretation because you don’t have the prerequisite background knowledge to understand it just as ISIS is doing with the Quran and wreaking havoc in the ME.


Your beliefs are far closer to those of ISIS than those of Miltiades.

You, like ISIS, believes that some "holy book" can determine what is true and right and that you should do what that "holy book" says in order to gain what is promised and avoid the punishment. Even worst, both you and the ISIS lunatics expect somebody else to interpret those fairytales to them and tell them what it "really" means. Those that control your religion or sect control the interpretation of those "holy books" and in this way control your minds.

On the other hand somebody like me or Miltiades doesn't need any "holy books" and their interpreters to tell us what is correct and what is wrong, neither we buy their promises and warnings. We use our own brains to judge if something is right or wrong, and therefore we can not be controlled en mass like the sheep of your kind.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:23 am

Atheist wrote:
The bible is dangerous in your hands because you are prone to misinterpretation because you don’t have the prerequisite background knowledge to understand it just as ISIS is doing with the Quran and wreaking havoc in the ME.


Your beliefs are far closer to those of ISIS than those of Miltiades.

You, like ISIS, believes that some "holy book" can determine what is true and right and that you should do what that "holy book" says in order to gain what is promised and avoid the punishment. Even worst, both you and the ISIS lunatics expect somebody else to interpret those fairytales to them and tell them what it "really" means. Those that control your religion or sect control the interpretation of those "holy books" and in this way control your minds.

On the other hand somebody like me or Miltiades doesn't need any "holy books" and their interpreters to tell us what is correct and what is wrong, neither we buy their promises and warnings. We use our own brains to judge if something is right or wrong, and therefore we can not be controlled en mass like the sheep of your kind.

That’s why it’s imperative that you conduct your own research so as to find the truth without any influence from religions.

I did just that between the ages of 22/23 and 30, so for 7 years I slaved away intensely to get answers so as to satisfy my insatiable curiosity.

In the end I got the answers and now I’m glad I put in the labour.

One thing you don’t wanna do though is mock God… you gotta leave a little window open just in case! :wink:
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Atheist » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:27 am

Genesis doesn't need defending from the comments you made.


So you believe, for example, that the earth including its plants were created before the stars?

Why would you start reading someone's message if you're not convinced of its authenticity?


In what other way would somebody be convinced of God's authenticity? It is rhetorical question. We both know that the answer in most cases is "because mommy said so" ;)

Right, so someone is trying to tell a story and you’re hell bent on correcting them?


I am simply pointing out how stupid it is to take what is written in a fairytale as facts.

But putting the church aside, and Orthodoxy aside, and every other religion aside, we’ve still got one “little” problem… an everlasting complex universe is *there* and you can’t explain how or why!


Scientists today can explain some of it but not everything. But you and your religion can't explain anything because you are stuck 2000 years in the past. What religion does, create a fairytale to fill a gab in our knowledge, is the easiest thing in the world. I can do that too just as easily. And this is exactly why those old Bible fairytales sound so ridiculous today. Because after 2000 years we found the real truth about many things that were unknown back then and the gab of that knowledge was filled with God fairytales that have nothing to do with reality.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby B25 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:47 am

Athiest, please prove that God does not exist. The burden of truth should be on you, since I don't need any proof since I believe he does.

Anything less than that and you have no case.

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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:52 am

Atheist wrote:So you believe, for example, that the earth including its plants were created before the stars?

Given that the bible was translated profusely down the centuries from the original scripts, you’ve got to allow some room for human error in the course of all those translations, so if something doesn’t make perfect sense it’s not the end of the world.

Atheist wrote:In what other way would somebody be convinced of God's authenticity? It is rhetorical question. We both know that the answer in most cases is "because mommy said so" ;)

Well I *was* gonna take you on a multi-faceted journey to make you aware of things you probably haven’t heard of before which all come together in the end… but if you keep derailing the thread with stupid things then I get bored! :lol:

Atheist wrote:Scientists today can explain some of it but not everything. But you and your religion can't explain anything because you are stuck 2000 years in the past. What religion does, create a fairytale to fill a gab in our knowledge, is the easiest thing in the world. I can do that too just as easily. And this is exactly why those old Bible fairytales sound so ridiculous today. Because after 2000 years we found the real truth about many things that were unknown back then and the gab of that knowledge was filled with God fairytales that have nothing to do with reality.

No they cannot explain anything with respect to the presence of the universe other than invent daft feeble theories that hold no water. We’ve discussed all that to death here many times so I’m not gonna go over that again.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Lordo » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:56 am

B25 wrote:Athiest, please prove that God does not exist. The burden of truth should be on you, since I don't need any proof since I believe he does.

Anything less than that and you have no case.

Amen

you can prove something that exists but proving something does not exist is an insult to your greak ancestors boy. the science books written 5 years are out of date and you carry on believeing a book that was written 1800 years ago, 200 years after it was recited by the original author. to call you an asshole is an insult to kurubedos and all the other assholes in the world like milti.
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby miltiades » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:05 pm

B25 wrote:Athiest, please prove that God does not exist. The burden of truth should be on you, since I don't need any proof since I believe he does.

Anything less than that and you have no case.

Amen

Prove that Father Christmas does not exist !!
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:13 pm

Eventually boys and girls, God will have had enough of our crap and he’ll make his presence felt very strongly here… and I just wish I could see the look on Milti’s face as the diarrhea slides down his pants and his dentures jump out his mouth from the trembling!

That would be priceless... :lol:
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Re: Checkmate, Atheists

Postby B25 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:34 pm

miltiades wrote:
B25 wrote:Athiest, please prove that God does not exist. The burden of truth should be on you, since I don't need any proof since I believe he does.

Anything less than that and you have no case.

Amen

Prove that Father Christmas does not exist !!


I don't need to, I have my belief system and that's enough for me, if you don't believe, that's your problem, and the burden is upon you to show me. Again otherwise you and the other non believers are just pissing in the wind.

We can't explain why things happen the way they do otherwise we would be God. We are but mere humans.
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