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by **cyprusgrump** » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:11 pm

by **Paphitis** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:36 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:

Plus, Cuba is a NOTHING country. A mere insignificant and impoverished little blimp on the map. in other words, no one really cares about Cuba.

Unless of course they suddenly discovered a huge reserve of oil and gas! Then the US embargos would get dropped faster than a whores knickers!!!

Cuba - Land area ....43,000sq.miles with a population of 11.7m. ...... but no oil

Qatar - Land area .... 4,116sq.miles with a population of 1.8m ......... with lots of gas

Bahrain - Land area ....257sq.miles with a population of 1.7m ........ with lots of oil

Without the oil/gas Qatar and Bahrain are just ' .... insignificant and impoverished little blimps on the map' . At least Cuba has mountains, forests, rivers, beaches and wonderful crystal clear water for divers. The only thing that spoils the Island is a military detention and torture facility at a place called Guantanamo BAY that the US 'annexed'..... that's it ..... the one Obama swore to shut down within his first year as POTUS.

That's nonsense. Cyprus has no oil and has a GDP comparable to OECD and many times more than Cuba.

Cuba is isolated and has an enforced embargo. Gen e, after 59 years you would think they would just accept the fact that their revolution and socialist experiment is a failed one.

BTW, Cuba actually does have both Oil and gas. Around 9.6 billion barrels worth as a matter of fact. :lol:

http://www.cubaoilgassummit.com/

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/In ... stors.html

:lol:

by **repulsewarrior** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:27 am

...from childhood he was destined to greatness; the record speaks for itself.

by **Paphitis** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:34 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...from childhood he was destined to greatness; the record speaks for itself.

What record is that Repulse? I am intrigued?

by **Robin Hood** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:00 am

Paphitis:

That's nonsense. Cyprus has no oil and has a GDP comparable to OECD and many times more than Cuba.

Yes but ........... in Cyprus you pay around 100 times more per month for electricity than a Cuban. Their food is supplied through ration books and life in general is to a great extent heavily subsidised by the State. Also, the Banking system is not under the control of the IMF and the US International Banks as the sanctions have prevented Cuba’s access through the system. So wealth is relative. It’s what your income buys that is relevant, not the income itself. :roll:

Cuba is isolated and has an enforced embargo. Gen e, after 59 years you would think they would just accept the fact that their revolution and socialist experiment is a failed one.

Why does the US enforce an embargo against such an insignificant country? What threat is Cuba to the US apart from a threat to US companies? Or is the US frightened that it could actually have been a success? It has actually been a success considering the effects of the US embargo has had on its economy. Just think how you would fair if the US declared your flying credentials to be void and to operate in international air space, the only acceptable qualifications were those obtained in the US. You’re screwed ........... until you comply. :wink:

BTW, Cuba actually does have both Oil and gas. Around 9.6 billion barrels worth as a matter of fact.

I didn’t check that. They are not know as being an 'oil state'.

http://www.cubaoilgassummit.com/

That said nothing, it was an advert for a conference.

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/In%20...%20stors.html

Interesting, but you didn’t read it, did you? You just picked up some numbers from the first paragraph. If you actually read what the article said and managed to understand it, you would have noted that the reason that Cuba has not capitalised on its fairly substantial oil/gas reserves is because of the US Embargo.

As I previously said, if the US can’t have it .... then no one else will and the US will ensure that situation continues.

Castro threw out the US oil companies after the revolution and Investment in the industry now is limited not only by the continued imposition of sanctions but also because the Cubans want any Cuban Oil Company to have majority Cuban State shareholdings, to ensure that a large percentage of the created wealth goes to the people .... not the US oil companies.

The US does not like conditions that limit their exploitation of a countries natural resources. Check out what happened in the 50’s in Iran .... same story and it was only their 2015 agreement with the US that allowed the Islamic Regime to sell oil/gas on the markets again after they threw out yet another US puppet .... The Shah.

It all comes down to what the US wants. :roll:

by **Paphitis** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:07 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:

That's nonsense. Cyprus has no oil and has a GDP comparable to OECD and many times more than Cuba.

Yes but ........... in Cyprus you pay around 100 times more per month for electricity than a Cuban. Their food is supplied through ration books and life in general is to a great extent heavily subsidised by the State. Also, the Banking system is not under the control of the IMF and the US International Banks as the sanctions have prevented Cuba’s access through the system. So wealth is relative. It’s what your income buys that is relevant, not the income itself.

Cuba is isolated and has an enforced embargo. Gen e, after 59 years you would think they would just accept the fact that their revolution and socialist experiment is a failed one.

Why does the US enforce an embargo against such an insignificant country? What threat is Cuba to the US apart from a threat to US companies? Or is the US frightened that it could actually have been a success? It has actually been a success considering the effects of the US embargo has had on its economy. Just think how you would fair if the US declared your flying credentials to be void and to operate in international air space, the only acceptable qualifications were those obtained in the US. You’re screwed ........... until you comply.

BTW, Cuba actually does have both Oil and gas. Around 9.6 billion barrels worth as a matter of fact.

I didn’t check that. They are not know as being an 'oil state'.

http://www.cubaoilgassummit.com/

That said nothing, it was an advert for a conference.

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/In%20...%20stors.html

Interesting, but you didn’t read it, did you? You just picked up some numbers from the first paragraph. If you actually read what the article said and managed to understand it, you would have noted that the reason that Cuba has not capitalised on its fairly substantial oil/gas reserves is because of the US Embargo.

As I previously said, if the US can’t have it .... then no one else will and the US will ensure that situation continues.

Castro threw out the US oil companies after the revolution and Investment in the industry now is limited not only by the continued imposition of sanctions but also because the Cubans want any Cuban Oil Company to have majority Cuban State shareholdings, to ensure that a large percentage of the created wealth goes to the people .... not the US oil companies.

The US does not like conditions that limit their exploitation of a countries natural resources. Check out what happened in the 50’s in Iran .... same story and it was only their 2015 agreement with the US that allowed the Islamic Regime to sell oil/gas on the markets again after they threw out yet another US puppet .... The Shah.

It all comes down to what the US wants.

I bet the standard of living of Cypriots is many times better than that of Cubans.

In fact you only need to check the Human development Index to see that.

Oh and btw, Cuba is actually rich in oil and gas reserves, but no one is wanting in because of the embargoes. Cyprus isn't known as an oil state. Cuba is far richer in oil and gas reserves than Cyprus but is unable to benefit from them at the moment.

Oh well! Viva la revolución :lol:

by **Paphitis** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:19 am

OH and btw, I always get a bit of laugh every time I have to pay my Paphos Sewerage Board or the IMPT which I guess is Land Tax.

Utilities in Cyprus are literally peanuts. CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP as.

In fact, I don't reckon the Cyprus Government should cancel the IMPT. This year's bill was the last. It shouldn't be.

I am happy to keep paying it and the cyprus government needs the money. just give the vulnerable and poor some discounts or assistance and keep the tax. Charge foreigners double as well or even triple!

by **repulsewarrior** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:18 am

...he is the son (although illegitamate) of a wealthy landlord, and plantation owner.

...as a very young boy he demonstrated a unique thirst for education, under the poorest conditions

...by twelve he fights for the worker's right under his family's employ, and wins them better living conditions

...he travels, studies Law, and leads workers in their protests, despite the risk of death; before leading the revolution.

...his Heritance was the first piece of land offered to the new Cuba that he was trying to form.

by **Paphitis** » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:38 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...he is the son (although illegitamate) of a wealthy landlord, and plantation owner.

...as a very young boy he demonstrated a unique thirst for education, under the poorest conditions

...by twelve he fights for the worker's right under his family's employ, and wins them better living conditions

...he travels, studies Law, and leads workers in their protests, despite the risk of death; before leading the revolution.

...his Heritance was the first piece of land offered to the new Cuba that he was trying to form.

Hitler bought political peace to Germany.

Hitler ended the great depression in Germany.

Hitler had a hunger and thirst for the Hellenic Classics and education.

Hitler bought an end to unemployment in Germany.

Hitler developed the German Labour unions and fought for worker rights in Germany.

Hitler developed the autobahn.

Hitler helped Volkswagen and made car ownership a possibility for most Germans.

Yep, Hitler's legacy will also never be forgotten.

Who was better out of the 2 repulse? Hitler or Fidel? Looks like a tight race to me.