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[supporttheunderdog]

..fortunately most of the Cypriots I meet are not like you, little star.

Sure. You meet Turks and call them Cypriots.

So now you resort to racist remarks which incorrectly describes the Cypriots I live and work with - I have very little contact with any Turkish Speaking People - either Cypriots or Turkish Citizens - and as we know in any event the majority of the Turkish Speaking Cypriots are as Cypriot in ancestry as the Greek Speaking Cypriots, with their origin in Cyprus predating the Ottoman Invasion - but then I least I want a Cypriot passport when I suspect you would perfer there was no such thing. I am not even sure you accept the idea that people can be Cypriot, rather you would deny the separate history of Cyprus and have it subsumed by Greece, and where you so often just refer to Cypriots as Greek or (as above) Turks...

If you want to be a Greek FUCK OFF to Greece.

[Sotos]

If you want to be a Greek FUCK OFF to Greece.

The great majority of Cypriots are Greek and this is even written in the constitution of Cyprus. In fact if you were to get the Cypriot citizenship you too would have to choose if you want to be Greek or Turkish. The great majority of Cypriots are just as Greek as any other Greek, and the ONLY reason Cyprus is not part of Greece is that the Turkish and British colonialists used force and blackmail to prevent the freedom of Cyprus.

[Sotos]

It is not the struggle but it was the means

That's a cheap excuse. We had been asking for enosis for many decades before the armed struggle. The armed struggle came only after the British declared that Cyprus would never be allowed to be free. You do know that the British empire was build with armed force, right?

Of course I do, but then the Greeks were no better under Alexander and his successors....they even invaded Cyprus....

First of all that era was more than 2000 years ago and nobody today supports those practices. Unfortunately in the case of many Brits the Colonialist mentality is still very prominent. Secondly, Alexander the Great never invaded Cyprus. The Cypriot kingdoms were his allies.

[supporttheunderdog]

.. only after victory of Alexander at Issus...

[GreekIslandGirl]

.. only after victory of Alexander at Issus...

Proving once again your total ignorance.

[Londonrake]

Only on a Chat Forum could an OP about acquiring a passport turn into a disagreement on Alexander the Great.

[supporttheunderdog]

:lol:

Only on a Chat Forum could an OP about acquiring a passport turn into a disagreement on Alexander the Great.

Only on the Cyprus Forum....mainly because some here are living in the past and wish that what is now history were different, and they fail to recognise that it is because of the actions of all parties,, including failures on the part of the GC leadership. One can play "what if" games, but like water under a bridge, once that moment had gone, the past cannot be changed. That is unless one accepts the trousers of time theory, where quite possibly the leadership of the Greek Cypriots had accepted the 1949 proposals, and in the many multiverses that flow from that in one at least Enosis is acheived.

The fact is that in 1949 and in 1956 the Greek Cypriot leadership chose to say no to what was on offer..also so I understand in 1972/3 to the deal offered that should hopefully have resolved the constitutional issue which had lead to the defacto division and creation of the Green line in 1963/4. That is what some here cannot bear to accept. Possibly because it involves iconoclastic thinking about the role of the meddlesome priest, Makarios,the Big Mak, or dirty Mak, who in my view was so polically sharp that he cut his own throat , and that of Cyprus on several occasions, leaving bloody scars that Cyprus must live with today.

gIG infact forgot that in her struggle to score personal points that Grivas and EOKA lost. They were not fighting for an independant Cyprus, but one which, playing the what if game with trousers of time thoery would have been different, and I think not what gIG would have liked when reality burst the bubble of the romanticism of enosis, found on artificial ideas of history that denies Cyprus its own unique History.

Even today there is little for the go getting Cypriots to get here, so according to press reports many plan to leave to find work. I think it wold have been worse, much much worse, if Enosis had been acheived.

Any way, I like Cyprus, warts and all, and despite gIG's predictions some years back I would be gone in two years, I am still here. Tough, little star.

[GreekIslandGirl]

:lol:

Only on a Chat Forum could an OP about acquiring a passport turn into a disagreement on Alexander the Great.

Yeah, scroll back to page one on this thread and see which British Imperialist first brought up Alexander the Great.

Only on the Cyprus Forum....mainly because some here are living in the past

Says the actual idiot who first brought up Alexander the Great on this thread!

[Sotos]

The Colonialist is still trying to blame the native people of Cyprus and our leadership and excuse the crimes of Imperial Britain and the invading Turks. The fact is that the native Cypriot people (who are Greek and have been so for long before there was anything English in Britain) have asked for nothing more, and fought for nothing more, than the freedom to democratically choose what to do with our own island. Funny how this colonialist pretends to support the "independence" of Cyprus. Independence would mean that the Cypriots would be free to do whatever they want with their own island. That is clearly NOT what he supports. He believes that what we do for our own island should be negotiated and approved by foreigners like himself. How is that "independence"??? That is like me saying that I support the "independence" of Falklands and Gibraltar, and with that meaning that Falklands and Gibraltar should be prohibited from being part of the UK, so that it would make it easier for others (Argentina and Spain in those cases) to take over those territories. That is exactly the "independence" that those Colonialists support for Cyprus. Essentially it is not independence at all, but in fact isolating Cyprus from the rest of Greece, so it would make it much easier for Britain and Turkey to occupy parts of our territory and control Cyprus.

[kurupetos]

I hope they are aware of the fact that they have to serve a 14 month long service in the CNG.

Depends on your age, if you are too old for the army you will be asked to do a year in Civil Defence which basically consists of one night a week.

It's better to opt for a regular service... we are about to have a war here...