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[Sotos]

The purpose of the CNG is (a) to delay any possible Turkish advancement until (hopefully) help can come from Greece and Europe and (b) to increase the cost to Turkey (in terms of money and lives) if they attempt to take the whole Cyprus. CNG has quite modern weapons (including anti aircraft missiles) and it could cause a much bigger damage to Turkey than e.g. the Kurds of Afrin. Of course in a war between Turkey and Cyprus, if Cyprus is not helped by anybody, Cyprus would eventually lose in a matter of some weeks or few months at most. But personally I don't believe that EU counties wouldn't help us if the free part of Cyprus is invaded, and if Turkey attempts such thing I believe the Turks will eventually lose the war, but with heavy casualties on both sides.

[miltiades]

The purpose of the CNG is (a) to delay any possible Turkish advancement until (hopefully) help can come from Greece and Europe and (b) to increase the cost to Turkey (in terms of money and lives) if they attempt to take the whole Cyprus. CNG has quite modern weapons (including anti aircraft missiles) and it could cause a much bigger damage to Turkey than e.g. the Kurds of Afrin. Of course in a war between Turkey and Cyprus, if Cyprus is not helped by anybody, Cyprus would eventually lose in a matter of some weeks or few months at most. But personally I don't believe that EU counties wouldn't help us if the free part of Cyprus is invaded, and if Turkey attempts such thing I believe the Turks will eventually lose the war, but with heavy casualties on both sides.

A very sound assessment. Well daid.

[Paphitis]

The purpose of the CNG is (a) to delay any possible Turkish advancement until (hopefully) help can come from Greece and Europe and (b) to increase the cost to Turkey (in terms of money and lives) if they attempt to take the whole Cyprus. CNG has quite modern weapons (including anti aircraft missiles) and it could cause a much bigger damage to Turkey than e.g. the Kurds of Afrin. Of course in a war between Turkey and Cyprus, if Cyprus is not helped by anybody, Cyprus would eventually lose in a matter of some weeks or few months at most. But personally I don't believe that EU counties wouldn't help us if the free part of Cyprus is invaded, and if Turkey attempts such thing I believe the Turks will eventually lose the war, but with heavy casualties on both sides.

I've always believed that Turkey taking the entire island would be its biggest mistake.

There is no choice then but to fight. Every Cypriot will just do what they can.

personally, I believe that the CNG's arsenal is capable of a lot more than just delay the Turks for a couple of weeks. Also, I don't expect any help from Greece. The Turks would then likely attack some of the major Aegean Islands like Rhodes, kalymnos, Samos, Lesbos, Limnos, Karpathos, Gastelorizo (strategic importance). Greece isn't going to risk its islands.

Greece will look after itself. It will not expose itself for Cyprus.

[Pyrpolizer]

Neither you Milti nor Paphitis have served in the army hence you have no idea.
The truth is that if Turkey attacks she might lose half her fighter jets in 24 hours.
As for her navy, ha,ha,ha.
In a nutshell Turkey will suffer tremendous loses.
But we won't win in the end she has 80 million to spare.

As for Paphitis' views I don't really care if they are reasonable or not.
I try to respect all views as long as the person is not getting spastic, boring, insulting and repetitive.
I like hearing innovative views.
Paphitis is not the only one who has nothing interesting to say, i can't blame him for that, the whole forum is like that myself included.

[Paphitis]

Neither you Milti nor Paphitis have served in the army hence you have no idea.
The truth is that if Turkey attacks she might lose half her fighter jets in 24 hours.
As for her navy, ha,ha,ha.
In a nutshell Turkey will suffer tremendous loses.
But we won't win in the end she has 80 million to spare.

As for Paphitis' views I don't really care if they are reasonable or not.
I try to respect all views as long as the person is not getting spastic, boring, insulting and repetitive.
I like hearing innovative views.

Lose half their jets. I hope that is true but I don't think so.

It might lose a few but losing half its jets is a little too optimistic.

What is likely, is that the CNG will lose 90% of its Air defense in 24 hours, but that isn't that important either. It would not result in a defeat.

And again, Turkey will be using American HARM Missiles to disable the CNG's Air Defence and that would be something that would outrage the Americans again. The Americans would not like it one bit. There Congress would be having babies as they talk about American manufactured Technology bombing an EU member State.

Oh and mate, I did 11 years in the Army plus 6 in Coast Watch (Coast Guard). You were only a conscript.

[Paphitis]

Neither you Milti nor Paphitis have served in the army hence you have no idea.
The truth is that if Turkey attacks she might lose half her fighter jets in 24 hours.
As for her navy, ha,ha,ha.
In a nutshell Turkey will suffer tremendous loses.
But we won't win in the end she has 80 million to spare.

As for Paphitis' views I don't really care if they are reasonable or not.
I try to respect all views as long as the person is not getting spastic, boring, insulting and repetitive.
I like hearing innovative views.
Paphitis is not the only one who has nothing interesting to say, i can't blame him for that, the whole forum is like that myself included.

But I agree, turkey should suffer tremendous losses. The CNG's advantage lies with its Armoured vehicles and Tanks. Also its Anti Armour Milan Missiles. The CNG is so far ahead of the game with all the beautiful Armoured Vehicles they have. The CNG should only lose a few from Air Attack.

The outcome will not be straightforward. I couldn't even predict who would win. It's anyone's guess. It is completely possible and reasonable for the CNG to defeat Turkey in Cyprus in my view. Who ever prevails with their Armour will likely win.

CNG has some Great Special Forces like the LOK and Frogmen. I don't know if the Turks have these kind of troops in Cyprus.

[Pyrpolizer]

LOL instead of posting a new post I edited this one. My original post has been quoted by Paphits if anyone wants to read it.

[Paphitis]

Neither you Milti nor Paphitis have served in the army hence you have no idea.
The truth is that if Turkey attacks she might lose half her fighter jets in 24 hours.
As for her navy, ha,ha,ha.
In a nutshell Turkey will suffer tremendous loses.
But we won't win in the end she has 80 million to spare.

As for Paphitis' views I don't really care if they are reasonable or not.
I try to respect all views as long as the person is not getting spastic, boring, insulting and repetitive.
I like hearing innovative views.

Lose half their jets. I hope that is true but I don't think so.

It might lose a few but losing half its jets is a little too optimistic.

What is likely, is that the CNG will lose 90% of its Air defense in 24 hours, but that isn't that important either. It would not result in a defeat.

And again, Turkey will be using American HARM Missiles to disable the CNG's Air Defence and that would be something that would outrage the Americans again. The Americans would not like it one bit. There Congress would be having babies as they talk about American manufactured Technology bombing an EU member State.

Oh and mate, I did 11 years in the Army plus 6 in Coast Watch (Coast Guard). You were only a conscript.

A total of 17 years! Wow I thought you were a Quantas pilot

https://defencegreece.wordpress.com/201 ... ry-parade/

Anti-missile capability, maximum 20 km against Harm or Ballistic (like Lance) missile, 26 km against cruise missile

No I was not a QANTAS pilot. I was a pilot with Cobham which had 14 QantasLink B717 Aircraft for QANTAS but I wasn't involved with that project. I was involved with the Coast watch Contract for Australian Customs for 6 years.

There were other divisions of the business as well, such as Target Towing, Search and Rescue, Air to Air Refueling, Ejection Seats, and so on.

Look up Surveillance Australia and FRA Aviation.

http://www.cobhamaviationservices.com/

Oh and btw, the BUK Missiles are not exactly a secret weapon and will not prove to be so deadly so as to destroy most of Turkey's fighters within 48 hours. The Turks are buying S300 and S400 remember which are far better than the BUK. But regardless what Air Defence System everyone has, they are completely vulnerable to HARM.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-88_HARM

Even the patriot Missile System is vulnerable and so would be Israel's Dome Air Defence Network. maybe there are some countermeasures they can apply.

But do you know what I would do if I was in one of these Death Traps? I would move every 2 minutes and turn the damn radar OFF!

[Paphitis]

btw Paphitis your new revelation that you spent 11 years in the army presumably as a fighter jet pilot plus another 6 in the coast guard presumably as a pilot again, what was all that about the "industry" you were talking about before? In what kind of aviation industry do you actually belong, the commercial or the military?

Remember one time I talked about a Syrian Air Force Pilot.

He flew his jet into Israel and was forced o land at one of Israel's Air Bases. He asked for asylum in Israel, but the Israeli's couldn't have him so Australia took him.

he too worked for Cobham (Coast watch) and then for QANTASLINK on Boeing 717. Cobham (an Arms Dealer) actually are contracted to provide QANTAS with 14 B717, trained pilots, engineering and crews and they operate that fleet on behalf of QANTAS under contract and in QANTAS livery. True story.


That's a Cobham owned and operated QANTAS B717.

I never said I was a fighter pilot. But I started off in the Navy at HMAS Creswell and HMAS Albatross on Sentinel which was the Kaman Super Seasprite program, which was subsequently scrapped as I was about to Graduate from officer Training. We were taken off ship and eventually sent to the RAAF and I ended up at 92 Wing.

I also had a Russian friend (former Engineer for the Russian Air Force). Also worked for Cobham on Australian Defence Contracts with Australian Security vetting and all.

Our Governments work in mysterious ways.

[Get Real!]

Too many people are attacking Paphitis lately so someone has to bring a little balance…