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[miltiades]

The General wewe Malakas Plonker, for short General ww MP , is rather susceptible to crap spewed out by anti Russian propaganda, after all who in their right mind would introduce a thread titled " I hate Pootin more than I hate ISIS."
A complete and utter idiot who thinks that HE is in charge of the Syrian involvement of the West, an involvement that has extended the war with hundreds of thousands killed.
I have been pro west all my life but will not support acts that are ill thought just because I support the West.

[Get Real!]

The fool who thought he unraveled the universe’s mysteries yet couldn’t even point to his penis, has died...

Only a fucking religious, my arse, psychopath would come out with such a statement. Yes Psycho there is no God, only fucking idiots who follow a stoneage mythological crap would rejoice at the death of a genius.

He’s a genius to you, forklift operators, construction laborers, taxi drivers, and supermarket trolley collectors.

Pretty much the same geniuses who believe transistor-based electronics will take over and rule the world!

[miltiades]

He just ...happened to have an IQ of 160
159 more than you !!!

[Get Real!]

He just ...happened to have an IQ of 160
159 more than you !!!

So much IQ eh... should’ve utilized it to cure his primitive Earthly disease instead of fantasizing all day about things that were clearly above and beyond him.

[Robin Hood]

Pyrpolizer:

Proves how blindfolded you can be.
I am surprised RH did not reply to this. He could save me the time..........

RH has been a bit busy the last couple of weeks but now he has almost resolved the 'problem' in his favour and learned a lot in the process, he has more time to be entertained by the Forum Clown.

Paphitis:

The Scientist who invented the nerve Agent is now working for the Americans.

Wrong again! He is retired and lives in Prince Town in a very expensive looking property. He regrets ever having made the stuff and there is no cure for the damage it does. So if anyone other than the three we know have been contaminated they will never recover. That was on SKY News not RT!

A few facts from the Moon of Alabama link:

Novichok, 'newcomers' in English, are a zoo of chemical warfare agents that were developed in the Soviet Union in the 1970s and 80s. Some of the 'newcomers' are said to be highly toxic.

The existence of these chemical agents was disclosed in 1992. Russia joined the Convention on the Prohibition of the Development, Production, Stockpiling and Use of Chemical Weapons and on their Destruction in 1997. It has since (unlike the US and the UK) destroyed all left over stocks from the Soviet Union's chemical weapon program. It does not produce chemical weapons.

These agents and their formulas are not an exclusively Russian knowledge or product:

One of the key manufacturing sites was the Soviet State Scientific Research Institute for Organic Chemistry and Technology (GosNIIOKhT) in Nukus, Uzbekistan. Small, experimental batches of the weapons may have been tested on the nearby Ustyurt plateau. It may also have been tested in a research centre in Krasnoarmeysk near Moscow. Since its independence in 1991, Uzbekistan has been working with the government of the United States to dismantle and decontaminate the sites where the Novichok agents and other chemical weapons were tested and developed.

So where did these Novichoc agents go? They must have either put them out for the local rubbish collectors, or maybe, they took them back to the USA for safe keeping?

The formulas for the various Novichok agents are not a Russian secret.

The U.S. and the UK surely know how to make these. The agents are said to be made from simple components used in civil industrial processes. (To qualify any agent as "military grade" is by the way nonsense. Many chemical agents used in civil process are also incredibly deadly.)

The Porton Down chemical weapon laboratory of the British military is only some 8 miles away from Salisbury where the Skripals were allegedly poisoned. The British government claims that Porton Down identified the agent allegedly used on the Skripals. The laboratory is surely also capable of producing such stuff, just like similar laboratories in other countries are able to do.

Now a bit of common sense let’s counter May's claims:

• Novichok agents are claimed to be up to 10 times as toxic as VX. One drop of VX can kill a person. If the Skripals were poisoned with such an highly effective agent how come they are still alive?

• The Soviet Union, not Russia, developed such agents. The main work was done in Uzbekistan. The U.S. helped to dismantled the laboratory.

• Russia is likely able to re-produce such agents but so are many, many other countries.

• What is Russia's "record of state sponsored assassinations"? The British investigation which claimed that "Russia" was somehow involved in the death of MI6 agent Litvinenko is highly dubious. I am not aware of any other cases. There is a long standing protocol to never bother spies that have been exchanged in a spy-swap.

• If Russia sees "some defectors" as legitimate targets why does it not immediately kill them? Skripal was living openly in the UK since 2010. Why would Russia kill him at all and why now?

SO............

• Given the above it is absurd to conclude that it is "highly likely" that Russia was responsible. If someone is run-over by a BMW is It "highly likely" that the German government is responsible for it?

• The real likeliness for that is just as high as the likeliness that Saddam could hit the UK with a chemical weapon missile within 45 minutes. That was a fraudulent claim another British government once made.

• May's claims today are just as believable as the all nonsense Tony Blair said about Saddam or as the show U.S. Secretary of State Powell delivered in front of the UN Security Council.

In any legal action it is incumbent upon the accuser to provide evidence to the accused persons Lawyer. The accused does not have to supply the accuser with proof of innocence, it is up to the accuser to prove guilt. For a so called democratic country like the UK that prides itself in complying with the Law to act the way they have done with Russia shows just how the US and Israel pull the strings when it comes to where and to whom International Law applies.

Once evidence is required the West goes silent and relies upon chosen sources ....... just like Paphitis because he has neither the mental capacity or knowledge to form a balanced opinion of his own.

As a foot note!

Had Paphitis read the synopsis given by Moon of Alabama that I posted, he would have been able to work out that there could possibly be another culprit that was to blame:

More likely is an involvement of Skripal in the Steele dossier and the CIA/MI6 operation against Donald Trump. Was he assailed because he threatened to talk about it?

For the UK to make these stupid, provocative and still unfounded accusations as even the police say they have identified no suspects or persons of interest, is incredible and flies in the face of ALL legal protocols. I personally feel embarrassed for the childish antics of those leading my birth country and their silly games of bravado are going to come back on them as the Bear bite’s back.

[miltiades]

He just ...happened to have an IQ of 160
159 more than you !!!

So much IQ eh... should’ve utilized it to cure his primitive Earthly disease instead of fantasizing all day about things that were clearly above and beyond him.

How about you using your lowly IQ combined with a prayer or two to cure your mental ....impediment!!!

[Get Real!]

He just ...happened to have an IQ of 160
159 more than you !!!

So much IQ eh... should’ve utilized it to cure his primitive Earthly disease instead of fantasizing all day about things that were clearly above and beyond him.

How about you using your lowly IQ combined with a prayer or two to cure your mental ....impediment!!!

It’s quite unintelligent to expect a lowly IQ to cure mental illness... but luckily the impediment is based on your assumption so you're saved!

[Paphitis]

The Scientist who invented the nerve Agent is now working for the Americans. This nerve agent is specific to Russia only. We would be quite happy to blame so many others but it's Russia whether you like it or not. The funny thing is, that this has taken Russia back some 20 years. Relations between Russia and the rest of the world are worse than what they ever were with the Soviet Union. Despite the Cold War with the Soviet Union, they as far as I know never did such a thing.

Proves how blindfolded you can be.
i am surprised RH did not reply to this. He could save me the time...

The guy was a double agent and was exchanged a long time ago with another bunch of 1000+ spies.
We was living in the UK using his real name, quite openly having nothing to hide or fear as he was not engaged in spying business anymore.
He was by no means a threat to Russia.
There's absolutely no proof, no toxic analysis confirming Novichok was used.
Since the times of Novichok USSR has developed nerve agents multiple time stronger.
The formula for making Novichok as well as the scientists who dealt with it had spread all over the world after the collapse of the USSR.
And finally if Russia would really wanted him dead it wouldn't have used a nerve agent, let aside a weak one.

Most probably the guy was targeted for something else he was doing that had nothing to do with Russian interests.
The ones who did it used a nerve agent as a smoke screen to divert attention away from the real culprits.
As if Russia is the only country in the world who knows how to make nerve agents...

It's so obvious Paphitis, I can't beleive you fell for it.
btw isn't the guy still alive?

The guy was a Russian Spy working for Russian Intelligence and then he changed sides. There was never an exchange but what there was is quite possible several thousands Russians in prominent positions who managed to request asylum from Western Countries and who were taken out of Russia and given residence in a number of Western Countries like USA, Canada, UK, Australia, and New Zealand. And yes, I have seen with my very own eyes, Russians and a Syrian working on very Secret Defence projects.

The West didn't have 1000 people to exchange. It will never exchange their citizens. It would charge them for violations against the Secrets Act. You are bound by The Secrets Act for life as well. You obviously watch too many movies with so called spy and agent exchanges over a cold Berlin Wall.

Not all of the Russians were spies. Some were spies. Others were public servants, military officers, engineers, scientists, and even pilots and test pilots and some were just your average soldier. Generally the traffic is one way. Russians seeking asylum in the West. There have been very few instances of Americans fleeing to Russia but it has happened a couple of times to escape prosecution. There was one prominent case recently but this is not normal. Not many would choose to ask asylum from Russia, unless you are Assange or something, then perhaps Russia might be a possibility.

Once again, the West does not exchange any "Double Agents". That is something that can't happen and is a terrible violation of their human rights as n doubt these people have family and loved ones. Yes our laws could be severe with any breach of the Secrets Act, but these people have rights even after proven to be guilty. Americans are protected under The US Constitution and The Bill of Rights. This can't be violated by the Government.

No Russia isn't the only country to make Nerve Agents. North Korea, China, Iran and maybe Israel also produce similar Nerve Agents. But it is the only known country to make this particular chemical composition, and the reason why they know this is because the person who made the compound now lives in America and works for American Interests, and American would not attack an enemy with a Nerve Agent let alone the UK in a false flag.

Even if Robin Hood replies, I will not bother to read or respond anymore. I have no interest in feeding the troll.

[Paphitis]

The General wewe Malakas Plonker, for short General ww MP , is rather susceptible to crap spewed out by anti Russian propaganda, after all who in their right mind would introduce a thread titled " I hate Pootin more than I hate ISIS."
A complete and utter idiot who thinks that HE is in charge of the Syrian involvement of the West, an involvement that has extended the war with hundreds of thousands killed.
I have been pro west all my life but will not support acts that are ill thought just because I support the West.

Yes indeed I hate Pootin more than Islamic State. So true!

Pootin is far more dangerous than Islamic State any day of the week. They just chemically attacked the UK, and that is friggin one of the most serious things since the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour!

!I don't care if you disagree malakas! Fact is, I consider Pootin to be the worse threat faced by the West and Europe by a long shot. And I am not the only person to believe this either. There are lots of very learned people, who think the same thing.

[Pyrpolizer]

There was never an exchange but what there was is quite…

Of course there was an exchange. In fact Sergei Skripal was in a group of 14 exchanged in 2010.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/ ... es-swap-us

Furthermore that particular exchange was not based on nationality. Skripal was a Russian citizen and the UK itself demanded he was among those spies who would be exchanged.
One of the spies was a Cypriot presumably of Canadian nationality.
Exchanges based on nationality happen all the time usually by deporting each other’s (confirmed or just suspected to be) spies.

Once again, the West does not exchange any "Double Agents". That is something that can't happen and is a terrible violation of their human rights as n doubt these people have family and loved ones.

Did they exchange Skripal or did they not? Was Skripal a Double Agent or was he not.

No Russia isn't the only country to make Nerve Agents. North Korea, China, Iran and maybe Israel also produce similar Nerve Agents. But it is the only known country to make this particular chemical composition, and the reason why they know this is because the person who made the compound now lives in America and works for American Interests, and American would not attack an enemy with a Nerve Agent let alone the UK in a false flag.

Ex USSR and Russia is not the same thing. In fact that nerve Agent was made in one of the Ex USSR countries which later on the Americans presumably helped clean up.You just confirmed that the person who made the compound now lives in America and works for American Interests.

So, just because the Americans wouldn’t do it, then the conclusion is it was the Russians who did it, right?
I have never seen a more naïve accusation. It this the best thing the UK government can do?
I am really anxious to watch it’s total humiliation at the UN