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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:21 pm

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Get Real! wrote:How is any of the above relevant to what I was saying? :?


Of course it's relevant. South Korea isn't behaving like a rogue.

If a country has great relations with its neighbours and trades with everyone, it means it has good friendly and cooperative relations as a good International Citizen.

Paphitis, your assignment is to research… “How to remain relevant in a debate”.

You have 3 days by which time you will be tested. Failure is not an option!


Don't worry about giving me assignments mate!

Your assignment is to tell me how on earth you have come up to the conclusion that somehow fat-boy is the good guy in this situation and that somehow South Korea is the devil when:

1) North Korea is developing Nuclear Weapons,
2) North Korea has tested Nuclear Weapons,
3) North Korea has been testing delivery systems through South Korean and Japanese Airspace,
4) North Korean artillery had bombarded residential areas in cross border villages about 2 years ago,
5) North Koreans are not allowed to leave North Korea,
6) North Korea has threatened Nuclear Annihilation of many of its neighbors including Japan and GUAM,
7) North Korea has threatened Hawaii, and Australia with a Nuclear Attack, and
8.) and there is many more things I just haven't thought of just yet.
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:Just had a look at that place… didn’t see any political debates there, which begs the question… what on Earth were you doing there RH? :?

Maybe it’s for the better you moved here…


They have a 'Debates' section which you have to be a member to see and have to select to see it otherwise you don't know its there. They have another section on 'Dating' which again you need to sign up to, to see the posts.

There were, just like here, a few hard core members that subscribed and only a handful of people kept the section going ..... and yes I was one of them. After I left once of my own accord for several months because of the continuous personal attacks by Londonrake, it literally ground to a halt. Same thing happened when I left permanently very few people were interested any more. And to counter the manic Koalas rubbish, when I returned I had many welcome me back both on the forum and by PM. :roll:

Paphitis is right on one thing. The sort of verbal abuse you get on this forum would not be tolerated and the posts would be removed and a warning given ..... that never happened to me because I don't need expletives to make my point. Even on here I only rarely resort to bad language on one person (now a duo called Pinky and Perky) :D and then only quite a mild form compared to yours and Milti's contributions.

Doesn't affect me because neither of you have ever been offensive to me ..... why should you be? But already you have worked out what my Nemesis is all about and you were absolutely right about him. If we met you would find out that I really am a very nice relatively quiet character and very easing going. I just don't take to idiots very easily especially when they act is if they are experts on subjects they clearly know nothing about! :roll: :wink:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:08 pm

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Paphitis wrote:There were heaps of political debates there. There were North Korean threads and threads about BREXIT and the Syrian War.

I can imagine what kind of "debate" the average Brit would have about NK...

Brit1: "Why don't we just nuke them?"

Brit2: "Can't, China may nuke back!"

Brit3: "Then lets nuke China too."

:lol:


Anyway, Londonrake is a respected participant at the other forum and one of the guys that participates in the "Debates" section. He has added a lot of good stuff as have a few others too until Hoodwinked went all stupid and started attacking and abusing everyone because they didn't take his viewpoints seriously.

You should sign up just to see the hidden 'Debates" section to see what I mean.

If we had their Admin here, there would be 2 members here that might find the going a little bit tough and they are none other than Hoodwinked and Miltiades. Steve doesn't suffer any fools lightly. :D

Hoodwinked has so far got that forum's world record for suspension terms. Usually Steve only hands out 2 week bannings but Hoodwinked's has been over 12 months now. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:20 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:Them Hoodwinked started to weigh in on how good Fatboy Rocketman is giving it to the Yanks and the nasty criminal South Koreans and everyone thought he was an idiot, even the one's who also thought Trump was an idiot himself.

I agree with RH... the South Koreans are a rotten criminal bunch who have lost all traces of their identity, while the North is/are pure and unspoiled.


You need to go to bed!

South Korea is an Asian powerhouse, an open economy and global economic power. And they are not testing Nuclear Weapons either.


They are a puppet State of the US and if you read the History you will see that after WWII the US imposed their man in the Presidency (Singman Re (?)) who lived in the US, installed a puppet government formed greatly of Japanese collaborators and they started to destroy the towns and villages that were happy to be self governing communities. Looked too much like communism for the US and they gave their puppet the nod to exterminate them. They murdered tens of thousands of south Koreans, which was what started the Korean War.

Kims Grandfather, who was worshipped by the Koreans, took on Singman Re's army and when he looked like winning with the backing of the ordinary rural Koreans, just like the Vietnamese did, the US moved in and spent 2-3 years reducing North Korea to rubble and killed off a third of the population. This is what made the Americans cocky enough to believe they could do the same with Vietnam. They found out differently and a mighty US Army was destroyed by a bunch of peasants.

So to many thinking people it makes sense for Nth Korea to want a deterent ..... and so far it has worked. Kim learned very quickly what happened with Ghadaffi and Sadam, once they gave up their deterents .... he would not be caught with HIS pants down.

So yes, I was in the minority, the rest who looked like agreeing with me, were soon driven off the thread with no stomach for a fight. I bothered enough to find out the truth about why Kim wanted a nuclear deterent ..... and I could see why. :roll:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:30 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Them Hoodwinked started to weigh in on how good Fatboy Rocketman is giving it to the Yanks and the nasty criminal South Koreans and everyone thought he was an idiot, even the one's who also thought Trump was an idiot himself.

I agree with RH... the South Koreans are a rotten criminal bunch who have lost all traces of their identity, while the North is/are pure and unspoiled.

You need to go to bed!

South Korea is an Asian powerhouse, an open economy and global economic power.

How are economies relevant to what I was saying? :?


They are every bit relevant because South Korea isn't a Hermit State. It is an open economy and free market that trades with the world. people are free to come and go, and live how they like and even watch foreign soaps and movies.

It's also a beacon of peace and stability. It doesn't threaten anyone and even walks on egg shells to appease the North Koreans much like the RoC does with its dealings with Turkey.

And it doesn't test Nuclear Weapons or fire rockets everywhere.



South Korea is an occupied State.occupied by the USA and has some 35,000 troops, with a heavy nuclear presence as well as massive fire power ...... all aimed at North Korea ...... and still Kim gives them the middle finger. The ordinary South Koreans have been trying to get rid of them for years, just like the Japanese want them out of Japan. Neithe countries fear North Korea ..... only their corrupt politicians, bought and paid for by the US.

But even now things are changing with talks between Nth and Sth Korea and even Japan ....... and soon just like Syria they will kick the US into the long grass and make their own peace deals. Then the US will have to withdraw some 70-80,000 troops in the region and their families and send them all back home! :wink:
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:How is any of the above relevant to what I was saying? :?


Of course it's relevant. South Korea isn't behaving like a rogue.

If a country has great relations with its neighbours and trades with everyone, it means it has good friendly and cooperative relations as a good International Citizen.


You are obviously blind as well as stupid. Check your history of the region before making silly comments. :x
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:How is any of the above relevant to what I was saying? :?


Of course it's relevant. South Korea isn't behaving like a rogue.

If a country has great relations with its neighbours and trades with everyone, it means it has good friendly and cooperative relations as a good International Citizen.

Paphitis, your assignment is to research… “How to remain relevant in a debate”.

You have 3 days by which time you will be tested. Failure is not an option!


Don't worry about giving me assignments mate!

Your assignment is to tell me how on earth you have come up to the conclusion that somehow fat-boy is the good guy in this situation and that somehow South Korea is the devil when:

1) North Korea is developing Nuclear Weapons,
2) North Korea has tested Nuclear Weapons,
3) North Korea has been testing delivery systems through South Korean and Japanese Airspace,
4) North Korean artillery had bombarded residential areas in cross border villages about 2 years ago,
5) North Koreans are not allowed to leave North Korea,
6) North Korea has threatened Nuclear Annihilation of many of its neighbors including Japan and GUAM,
7) North Korea has threatened Hawaii, and Australia with a Nuclear Attack, and
8.) and there is many more things I just haven't thought of just yet.


I wouldn't bother if I were you! North Korea has been under US sanctions for 60 years is it any wonder they don't trade very much with their neighbours? Once Korea re-unites under a single flag, with a crumbling US Empire and a rising world with China and Russia at the helm, they will shed the US and be able to act like a normal country again. Will their never again be hostility in the region ..... I doubt it, but the region has been on a war footing for some 70 years ..... with the US making sure it stays that way ..... times are changing ..... get used to it! :roll: :x
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:00 pm

Paphitis:
1) North Korea is developing Nuclear Weapons,
Just like Israel has and for the same reason
2) North Korea has tested Nuclear Weapons,
So has the US and quite recently too.
3) North Korea has been testing delivery systems through South Korean and Japanese Airspace,
A bit difficult to test long range weapons when there are other countries around, so they did it twuce(?) over the narrowest part of Japan to demonstrate to doubters like you and the US, that they DO have the capability to respond where it will hurt.
4) North Korean artillery had bombarded residential areas in cross border villages about 2 years ago,
Maybe they did but I think it was a reciprocal skirmish? .... I don’t actually recall the incident. How many Sth Koreans died as a result?
5) North Koreans are not allowed to leave North Korea,
A lot due to a US blockade but they do travel to China and Russia I believe?
6) North Korea has threatened Nuclear Annihilation of many of its neighbors including Japan and GUAM,
Yes ..... but it always comes with a BIG IF!!!! IF they are threatened ..... that is why they need a deterrent it is against probable US aggression not their neighbours. Anyway, their attack if it came, would be directed at the hundreds of US military bases in the region.
7) North Korea has threatened Hawaii, and Australia with a Nuclear Attack,
The same BIG IF applies as for 6.
8.) and there is (ARE) many more things I just haven't thought of just yet.

That is your problem you don’t .......... think!!!! :D
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Londonrake » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:16 pm

RH

I did drum up a lengthy response to your previous attacks on me (they never of course constitute personal abuse). However, I've twice tried to draw a line under this, to no avail. As I said, you are never one to not have the last word, which is part of your problem.

It isn't the first time you've plastered people's private communications over public forums. A nasty habit. To do so with the mail of a forum owner in an acrimonious way on another is, IMHO, a bloody disgrace. I suspect that it will probably be so in his also (I know that he's a lurker in here).

Despite all of your bluster and - "fake news" :lol: I draw attention to one particularly telling line, which sums things up succinctly:

"I think we can both agree that this is not the first time I have had to get involved in disputes that you have been at the centre of." I've yet to be the recipient of such a communication from that source.

You are not, and never have been, the put-upon, victimised innocent that you seem to have convinced yourself of.

Can we call this a day now? Or do you want the full Monty version? Because I don't :(
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Re: The Skripal poisoning affair ..... was it Russia/Putin?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Apr 02, 2018 5:29 pm

Londonrake wrote:
It isn't the first time you've plastered people's private communications over public forums. A nasty habit. To do so with the mail of a forum owner in an acrimonious way on another is, IMHO, a bloody disgrace. I suspect that it will probably be so in his also (I know that he's a lurker in here).


He should come out and say hello.

Londonrake wrote:Can we call this a day now? Or do you want the full Monty version? Because I don't :(


I would love the full Monty version, but maybe on another day. :lol:
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