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[Paphitis]

20 countries have now expelled Russian diplomats.

This is excellent news and well done to the 20.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... pal-attack

Australia not included in the list as Australian Government only announced that it was expelling Russian Diplomats from Canberra only 10 hours ago.

So 21, maybe even more by now.

It is very important that all nations stand with the UK in solidarity over this very brazen attack against them by Russia.

[supporttheunderdog]

... this stuff can be made anywhere and by anybody....

According to a microbiological chemist of my aqcquantance, who sometimes works with some of the more dangerous natural biological agents, and who, in consequence, must follow some of the very strictist of protocols to avoid personal exposure, let alone release, this is not the sort of stuff that can be made anywhere and by anybody, so much so that the precautions he must follow seem tame by comparison.

[Paphitis]

... this stuff can be made anywhere and by anybody....

According to a microbiological chemist of my aqcquantance, who sometimes works with some of the more dangerous natural biological agents, and who, in consequence, must follow some of the very strictist of protocols to avoid personal exposure, let alone release, this is not the sort of stuff that can be made anywhere and by anybody, so much so that the precautions he must follow seem tame by comparison.

Indeed! It was a State actor that did the attack on the UK. It was a State Actor that poisoned the former Russian Agent and his daughter.

This nerve agent isn't exactly the kind of chemical that little kiddies will play with at Oxford Chem labs as a university assignment.

[Robin Hood]

A view expressing opinions as valid as many others....

https://theswamp.media/the-link-between-sergei-skripal-and-the-trump-russia-dossier-christopher-steele-returns

I suppose that has something going for it, if you work for the Mafia and get on their wrong side this is what happens. It can also happen with the 'good guys' like MI6 and the CIA as well! Davis Kelly being an example? His autopsy report has been locked down for the next 30 years. One has to ask why, if the security services were not involved and he DID commit suicide. There have also been a lot of people associated with the Clintons that have died in mysterious circumstances as well,

There is a message there surely ......... no matter which side you spy for, cross them and you are a dead man?

I find it rather amusing when the MSM call Skripal a 'Russian' spy, he may have been Russian and a spy but he was/is a British spy, he was spying for the British.

[Paphitis]

Australia's PM said the following:

Turnbull slammed the attack as “the first offensive use of chemical weapons in Europe since World War II.”

He also called it “reckless and deliberate” conduct by Russia that harms global security and violates rules against the use of chemical weapons.

Russia's Ambassador said:

"The Russian Embassy said the regrettable decision jeopardized the bilateral relationship."



I wasn't even aware australia had ANY connection with Russia whatsoever!

Last time I checked, the Australian Government hates Russia and even has embargoes against Russia. Australians by enlarge also hate Pootin.

Thanks for the laughs Russian Ambassador peshevengi malaka! And Asiktir to your spues in Australia!

Oh you wouldn't even read about it!

We don't even care if Russia closes Australia's embassies in Russia. In fact that would be fantastic. We do need need an embassy to Russia at all.

[Robin Hood]

... this stuff can be made anywhere and by anybody....

According to a microbiological chemist of my aqcquantance, who sometimes works with some of the more dangerous natural biological agents, and who, in consequence, must follow some of the very strictist of protocols to avoid personal exposure, let alone release, this is not the sort of stuff that can be made anywhere and by anybody, so much so that the precautions he must follow seem tame by comparison.

I wouldn't argue with that as a basic principal. True you can't make this stuff in the kitchen with your average blender and a standard cooker hood extract, it needs precautions and specialist handling. So your friend is right on that but surely, a well equipped competent laboratory with the right equipment could do it and the formula and method has been around since the 90's ?

There was an article the other day that said the Iranians had produced it some years ago under the supervision of the OPCW and it was the first time OPCW confirmed it was possible. It also only becomes lethal when the two agents that make up the final A-XXX nerve agent are combined and apparently it has a short shelf life.

[Paphitis]

What a fucking idiot!

This is a WMD. It can potentially wipe out an entire city the size of London in its pure form and if the right amount is released. It is about 1000 times more toxic than Sarin and VX Gas.

This attack is from a State Actor.

[Londonrake]

Here's an article which covers some aspects of nerve agents:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... ei-skripal

I can say from my own experience that in a potential NA environment we used to wear quite light, charcoal impregnated, full coverage NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) suits, over the top of our normal combat kit. That, plus a respirator of course. You knew when you had been in that lot for 12 hours or so, especially in the summer months.

There were various blotting paper type patches which detected the presence of any toxins, persistant and non-persistant. You taped these to your suit arms and legs in clear sight. They changed colour when contamination was present. Around your waist you carried a set of cylindrical devices in a wallet. They were called Autojects. If you started showing the initial symptoms of nerve agent poisoning you would get one of these out, press it very firmly into the top of your upper leg and push the end button. This fired a 2" needle into the big muscle there and injected a large dose of atropine. This was an act of faith because if you got it wrong then instead of countering the agent the atropine would kill you.

You also had a container of what was basically high-end talcum powder (Fuller's Earth) which you could apply to any areas of contamination on your suit to soak up the droplets of NA - which can then be brushed off before you go home to tea.

As well as that we carried individual packets of quite large oxime tablets. The atropine slows down the effects of NA poisoning and the oxime tablets taken afterwards effectively counter it (theoretically ). Again, the stuff is quite toxic in its own right and can seriously screw you up. Good luck!

I've heard it said a few times that these agents are a piece of doddle to concoct. It wasn't at all the impression I got and does seem to beg the question, why don't we see them a lot more being used by relatively well funded/equipped groups, like ISIS? Not for ethical reasons, that's for sure.

[miltiades]

What a fucking idiot!

This is a WMD. It can potentially wipe out an entire city the size of London in its pure form and if the right amount is released. It is about 1000 times more toxic than Sarin and VX Gas.

This attack is from a State Actor.

Do you or your kangaroo government or indeed the Clown FS, fucking stupid, have the latest casualty figures following what the kangaroo Aussie called A Russian chemical attack on the UK. !!! Soon these morons will be comparing this incident equivalent to the ...Pearl Harbour attack..
So glad Cyprus is not joining the circus and expelling any Russians. By the way is Ternbuuul the Aussie PM ?

[Paphitis]

What a fucking idiot!

This is a WMD. It can potentially wipe out an entire city the size of London in its pure form and if the right amount is released. It is about 1000 times more toxic than Sarin and VX Gas.

This attack is from a State Actor.

Do you or your kangaroo government or indeed the Clown FS, fucking stupid, have the latest casualty figures following what the kangaroo Aussie called A Russian chemical attack on the UK. !!! Soon these morons will be comparing this incident equivalent to the ...Pearl Harbour attack..
So glad Cyprus is not joining the circus and expelling any Russians. By the way is Ternbuuul the Aussie PM ?

Yes we do! There were 21 casualties all up.

Even if there were only one, it was an attack on British territory with a Chemical Nerve Agent WMD. I am not using this type of language as hyperbole. this is exactly the same language used by some 21 countries who have taken action against Russian Diplomats within their jurisdictions. And that is exactly what it is. A Chemical Attack in Britain by a State Actor. A Chemical Attack of this nature is extremely serious, because this type of nerve agent is literally capable of killing hundreds of thousands of people. It's a chemical attack.

Cyprus is a little pawn, and in the end not even a consideration. And you can hardly be taken seriously when talking about Turkish action or violations of airspace within Cyprus when it is unwilling to speak up about Britain's sovereignty. The sword cuts both ways.

Just like Cyprus' position on the Ukrainian Crisis, Cyprus better choose its next actions wisely, and you can't remain silent on such a thing forever.

Russia's impunity is now at the end of the road. It looks like Russia better pipe down because the West is banding together at long lost and is not going to condone anymore Russian provocations. If Russia continues, it risks further action.