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Re: Erdogan v Netanyahu

Postby Londonrake » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:28 pm

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Cap wrote:Netanyahu said. “Anyone who occupies northern Cyprus, invades the Kurdish strip and slaughters citizens in Afrin, should not lecture us about values and ethics.”


That's an excellent comment from Netanyahu.

I like how he mentioned Cyprus and Afrin. Well done and Thank You.


I don't like Erdogan ..... but what he says about events in Gaza is more in line with mainstream opinion than Netanyahu's.

I thought you had a problem with mainstream opinions? Image

IMO: It would be rational and perfectly honest to say that Netanyahu's actions against Gaza are exactly the same as the Nazi's applied against the Jewish population in Warsaw. You must have heard about the 'Warsaw Ghetto'?

Yes, and I don't think it's a valid comparison. Does anybody? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto

But Netanyahu is just like you, quick to point out the abuses of others but ignores those his own country enacts against thousands of civilians in The Gaza Ghetto! Or in the annexation and occupation of the lands of others, (That sounds familiar) which is contrary to both International Law and The Geneva Conventions. But dare to mention this and ...... you are instantly branded as anti-Semitic! :roll:

There have always been a lot of anti-Semitic people around. Obviously, it's a topical subject at the moment. Nowadays though, anti-Semitic prejudices tend to be cloaked. Principally in a supposed hatred only of the actions of the State of Israel, or Zionism. "I have no problem with Jews. It's the Israeli Government/Zionists/Bankers/Media Moguls, etc, etc." It all boils down to the same thing though. The old rabble-rousing wind-up myths still prevail in certain quarters. If you Google "Jewish Conspiracy Theories" you're spoiled for choice.


It seems an odd situation though. Israel/Cyprus. There appears to be a lot of cooperation, in all sorts of fields. It was screaming overhead only last week. :lol: Not just a simple case of "My enemy's enemy is my friend".
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Re: Erdogan v Netanyahu

Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:44 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:Netanyahu said. “Anyone who occupies northern Cyprus, invades the Kurdish strip and slaughters citizens in Afrin, should not lecture us about values and ethics.”


That's an excellent comment from Netanyahu.

I like how he mentioned Cyprus and Afrin. Well done and Thank You.


I don't like Erdogan ..... but what he says about events in Gaza is more in line with mainstream opinion than Netanyahu's.

I thought you had a problem with mainstream opinions? Image

IMO: It would be rational and perfectly honest to say that Netanyahu's actions against Gaza are exactly the same as the Nazi's applied against the Jewish population in Warsaw. You must have heard about the 'Warsaw Ghetto'?

Yes, and I don't think it's a valid comparison. Does anybody? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto

But Netanyahu is just like you, quick to point out the abuses of others but ignores those his own country enacts against thousands of civilians in The Gaza Ghetto! Or in the annexation and occupation of the lands of others, (That sounds familiar) which is contrary to both International Law and The Geneva Conventions. But dare to mention this and ...... you are instantly branded as anti-Semitic! :roll:

There have always been a lot of anti-Semitic people around. Obviously, it's a topical subject at the moment. Nowadays though, anti-Semitic prejudices tend to be cloaked. Principally in a supposed hatred only of the actions of the State of Israel, or Zionism. "I have no problem with Jews. It's the Israeli Government/Zionists/Bankers/Media Moguls, etc, etc." It all boils down to the same thing though. The old rabble-rousing wind-up myths still prevail in certain quarters. If you Google "Jewish Conspiracy Theories" you're spoiled for choice.


It seems an odd situation though. Israel/Cyprus. There appears to be a lot of cooperation, in all sorts of fields. It was screaming overhead only last week. :lol: Not just a simple case of "My enemy's enemy is my friend".


it's only logical that Greece, Cyprus and Israel form a Military Axis.
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Re: Erdogan v Netanyahu

Postby Sotos » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:37 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Cap wrote:Netanyahu said. “Anyone who occupies northern Cyprus, invades the Kurdish strip and slaughters citizens in Afrin, should not lecture us about values and ethics.”


That's an excellent comment from Netanyahu.

I like how he mentioned Cyprus and Afrin. Well done and Thank You.


I don't like Erdogan ..... but what he says about events in Gaza is more in line with mainstream opinion than Netanyahu's.

IMO: It would be rational and perfectly honest to say that Netanyahu's actions against Gaza are exactly the same as the Nazi's applied against the Jewish population in Warsaw. You must have heard about the 'Warsaw Ghetto'?

But Netanyahu is just like you, quick to point out the abuses of others but ignores those his own country enacts against thousands of civilians in The Gaza Ghetto! Or in the annexation and occupation of the lands of others, which is contrary to both International Law and The Geneva Conventions. But dare to mention this and ...... you are instantly branded as anti-Semitic! :roll:


Actually he was not "quick to point out the abuses of others" but he was responding to Erdogan. I am not supporting what Israel is doing to Gaza but Erdogan is the last one who can give lessons to others, since he and his country are far worst.
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Re: Erdogan v Netanyahu

Postby Sotos » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:42 pm

Erdogan wrote:We don’t have the shame of invading on us, Netanyahu. You are an invader and right now are present in those lands as an invader. At the same time, you are a terrorist.


If he was JUST criticizing Israel for its actions then ok. But to say "We don’t have the shame of invading on us"?? Saying that while occupying north Cyprus and while invading Syria and threatening to also invade Iraq and making claims on Greek islands? That is beyond hypocrisy... it is an outright lie!
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