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[Londonrake]

. His hair style is just fine and at least he doesn't ride horses topless on national TV like some closet gay! You do know that Pootin is a closet homosexual.

[Pyrpolizer]

When the Clown says that Russia must be dealt with before its too late, what does he mean exactly !!
How will Russia be ...dealt with ??
It takes a ...clown to know a clown!!
By the way, can you perhaps gift him a hair brush ??

He friggin means that the West needs a united front and it also means that the West needs to be a lot more decisive when dealing with Assad's war crimes against his own people.

He also means that the West is able to hit at Pootin in more decisive ways such as a boycott on the World Cup and the closure of all diplomatic offices and embassies.

His hair style is just fine and at least he doesn't ride horses topless on national TV like some closet gay! You do know that Pootin is a closet homosexual.

Suppose Australia closed all it's diplomatic offices and embassy in Russia, do you know what could happen to an Aussie who lost it's passport while traveling in Russia? Or has been robbed and has no money to return?

You will gain nothing from doing such a stupid thing. Not even Hitler did.

People should stop traveling to these countries.

Australia is not responsible if any citizens make stupid decisions. So many times there are citizens traveling to even Capital Punishment countries with medications and no documentation or scripts.

Sometimes people are just stupid.

Likewise, a Russian will need to watch out in Australia too. It's a 2 way sword.

We will gain because Russia will have no diplomatic relations with many countries in the West and that is more costly for them than us. It would also infuriate Pootin, that he may temper his behaviour.

You are totally wrong. It's a fundamental duty of any government either through embassies or consulates or proxy embassies/consulates to protect and serve it's citizens in foreign countries. And this of course include anyone no matter how stupid s/he is either he travels for business or holidays or whatever.

Furthermore how can you forbid people traveling to and from Russia when at the good times you had a 30+billion trade?
Which I assume with Australia's suctions dropped to the lowest possible level of what 435 (?) million
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/ ... rom-russia

You simply can't. Unless of course you want Australia to demonstrate less government legitimacy.
It's just plain daft like shooting yourself in the foot.

[Paphitis]

When the Clown says that Russia must be dealt with before its too late, what does he mean exactly !!
How will Russia be ...dealt with ??
It takes a ...clown to know a clown!!
By the way, can you perhaps gift him a hair brush ??

He friggin means that the West needs a united front and it also means that the West needs to be a lot more decisive when dealing with Assad's war crimes against his own people.

He also means that the West is able to hit at Pootin in more decisive ways such as a boycott on the World Cup and the closure of all diplomatic offices and embassies.

His hair style is just fine and at least he doesn't ride horses topless on national TV like some closet gay! You do know that Pootin is a closet homosexual.

Suppose Australia closed all it's diplomatic offices and embassy in Russia, do you know what could happen to an Aussie who lost it's passport while traveling in Russia? Or has been robbed and has no money to return?

You will gain nothing from doing such a stupid thing. Not even Hitler did.

People should stop traveling to these countries.

Australia is not responsible if any citizens make stupid decisions. So many times there are citizens traveling to even Capital Punishment countries with medications and no documentation or scripts.

Sometimes people are just stupid.

Likewise, a Russian will need to watch out in Australia too. It's a 2 way sword.

We will gain because Russia will have no diplomatic relations with many countries in the West and that is more costly for them than us. It would also infuriate Pootin, that he may temper his behaviour.

You are totally wrong. It's a fundamental duty of any government either through embassies or consulates or proxy embassies/consulates to protect and serve it's citizens in foreign countries. And this of course include anyone no matter how stupid s/he is either he travels for business or holidays or whatever.

Furthermore how can you forbid people traveling to and from Russia when at the good times you had a 30+billion trade?
Which I assume with Australia's suctions dropped to the lowest possible level of what 435 (?) million
https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/ ... rom-russia

You simply can't. Unless of course you want Australia to demonstrate less government legitimacy.
It's just plain daft like shooting yourself in the foot.

No it isn't Australia's duty at all.

If an Australian Citizen goes to places like North Korea, Turkish Republic of North Cyprus or Russia without diplomatic representation, then Australia will not be offering any assistance in those countries because it does not have diplomatic channels in those places.

In other words, the Australian Government posts travel warnings and if people ignore these warnings it is a "travel at your own risk"

Australia will not for instance engage North Korea just because an Australian citizen is in trouble there. That places North Korea in a position of power and they could blackmail the Australian Government and the Australian Government will not negotiate like this or place itself in a vulnerable position.

No one has the right to place Australia in such a position.

They will not negotiate with terrorists or criminal regimes like Assad either. If someone is caught by Islamic State and about to be beheaded, then the Australian Government does its negotiations with an F-18F.

It's not Australia's obligation to run around trying to help every idiot that is caught doing something completely irresponsible or stupid.

People need to understand this.

Australian citizens are also entitled for consular assistance from Canada if a Canadian Mission exists in those places.

People need to get over themselves and be responsible for their actions.

[Londonrake]

US on Turkey’s purchase of S400:

http://cyprus-mail.com/2018/04/27/us-pr ... se-russia/

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[Pyrpolizer]

No it isn't Australia's duty at all.

If an Australian Citizen goes to places like North Korea, Turkish Republic of North Cyprus or Russia without diplomatic representation, then Australia will not be offering any assistance in those countries because it does not have diplomatic channels in those places.

In other words, the Australian Government posts travel warnings and if people ignore these warnings it is a "travel at your own risk"

Australia will not for instance engage North Korea just because an Australian citizen is in trouble there. That places North Korea in a position of power and they could blackmail the Australian Government and the Australian Government will not negotiate like this or place itself in a vulnerable position.

No one has the right to place Australia in such a position.

They will not negotiate with terrorists or criminal regimes like Assad either. If someone is caught by Islamic State and about to be beheaded, then the Australian Government does its negotiations with an F-18F.

It's not Australia's obligation to run around trying to help every idiot that is caught doing something completely irresponsible or stupid.

People need to understand this.

Australian citizens are also entitled for consular assistance from Canada if a Canadian Mission exists in those places.

People need to get over themselves and be responsible for their actions.

Don't mix up places where the Government (in your case the Govnt of Australia) has issued warnings.
Has it issued warnings to it's people traveling to Russia? Has it closed down it's embassy in Russia?
As for the occupied I won't be surprised to learn they have the British as proxies albeit neither they have official diplomatic relations but they do have a British Council branch and the UN mission that could act as proxies. The last resort would be to use their diplomatic representation in Turkey.
Make no mistake. Although most countries are not obliged by their laws to help their citizens in need in foreign countries, refusal to do so exposes them in having less of an international government legitimacy.

[Pyrpolizer]

US on Turkey’s purchase of S400:

http://cyprus-mail.com/2018/04/27/us-pr ... se-russia/

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Aha! So the the S-400 are not compatible with NATO’s defenses huh?
The stupid Turks might shoot down their own F-16 right?

[Londonrake]

US on Turkey’s purchase of S400:

http://cyprus-mail.com/2018/04/27/us-pr ... se-russia/

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Aha! So the the S-400 are not compatible with NATO’s defenses huh?
The stupid Turks might shoot down their own F-16 right?

I suppose the Turks can buy whatever they want. However, it seems a bit odd to be procuring a major defence item, when you are supposedly an important member of a military alliance that's principal, potential protagonist is the one hawking the missiles.

[Paphitis]

No it isn't Australia's duty at all.

If an Australian Citizen goes to places like North Korea, Turkish Republic of North Cyprus or Russia without diplomatic representation, then Australia will not be offering any assistance in those countries because it does not have diplomatic channels in those places.

In other words, the Australian Government posts travel warnings and if people ignore these warnings it is a "travel at your own risk"

Australia will not for instance engage North Korea just because an Australian citizen is in trouble there. That places North Korea in a position of power and they could blackmail the Australian Government and the Australian Government will not negotiate like this or place itself in a vulnerable position.

No one has the right to place Australia in such a position.

They will not negotiate with terrorists or criminal regimes like Assad either. If someone is caught by Islamic State and about to be beheaded, then the Australian Government does its negotiations with an F-18F.

It's not Australia's obligation to run around trying to help every idiot that is caught doing something completely irresponsible or stupid.

People need to understand this.

Australian citizens are also entitled for consular assistance from Canada if a Canadian Mission exists in those places.

People need to get over themselves and be responsible for their actions.

Don't mix up places where the Government (in your case the Govnt of Australia) has issued warnings.
Has it issued warnings to it's people traveling to Russia? Has it closed down it's embassy in Russia?
As for the occupied I won't be surprised to learn they have the British as proxies albeit neither they have official diplomatic relations but they do have a British Council branch and the UN mission that could act as proxies. The last resort would be to use their diplomatic representation in Turkey.
Make no mistake. Although most countries are not obliged by their laws to help their citizens in need in foreign countries, refusal to do so exposes them in having less of an international government legitimacy.

I believe there are warnings for Australians traveling to Russia. I am not sure what they are about, and most people don't take any notice.

There are even warnings for people traveling to Cyprus for some reason and I think the warning refers to the Pontian Russians again. But in particular, there are warnings about Australians traveling to the unrecognized "TRNC"

BTW, Australia has personnel on the ground working with the UN in Cyprus so if someone gets into trouble the Australian Government can send one of its Federal Police. Australia does not use British proxies either. It can use Canadian proxies though. But Australian citizens get evacuated from Akrotiri if there was a war started.

Once again, people don't listen. I didn't when I crossed the Green Line and traveled to the occupied part of Cyprus. The Australian Government frowns upon it.

Traveling to places like Syria is pretty much almost illegal too. If you got Syria on your passport you will get interrogated about your business there.

Here are the Cyprus Travel warnings:

http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/e ... yprus.aspx

Russian travel warnings are actually very serious. Russia is flagged red, which means they are discouraging travel to Russia due to anti Western sentiment. Russian travel warnings here:

http://smartraveller.gov.au/Countries/e ... ussia.aspx

[miltiades]

The Australian warnings on Russia are pure rubbish. I have been to Russia a few times also numerous times to Belarus. I have NEVER encounteted any animosity being a westerner. Pure supposition written by ...kangaroo experts. You get so much crap about Russia from the UK as well. Go visit and see for your self.
By the way, the Russians love westerners, they love western music, coca k..ouala, Big macs and on top of that they laugh at the naive westerners who consider Russia a thread.

[Paphitis]

They are not pure rubbish at all.

Even the Australian Ambassador travels in an unmarked normal car with Russian Plates and the Security Attaches travel in the diplomatic vehicles.

They are continuously being pulled over and harassed by Russian Police for the hell of it and they even search the car. The only ones inside though are ASIO.

Maybe you haven't encountered any issues but Australian workers and diplomatic staff have, and so have the British and the Americans. And it is also very dangerous for them.

Secondly, just imagine you are a dissident in Belarus or Russia. You life would change instantly and just wouldn't be pleasant at all. You might even find yourself in jail for 4 years like one of the opposition politicians. In Russia you might find yourself even dead!

These countries are not like the UK, or Australia ok!