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[Paphitis]

I really liked his real speech. It was good, and there are moments I think Trump has quite a bit of charisma and humour, but you will never see the media like NYT, CNN or Washington Post come out and say it unfortunately.

The public isn't fooling anyone anymore. And for as long as they behave the way they do, Trump we win more and more support.

His speeches would be prepared. There would be a team behind him. Whether it was a male or female, whoever did that speech did a great job.

Imo he is a simplistic person totally alienated from the reality of how the US is really operating.
He somehow formed this view that America (btw did you count how many times he used the name America and United States in his speech LOL) is been exploited by their allies, pays too much etc.
Wait till his allies start buying/selling oil in any other currency except US$ and America's deficit becomes real trillions rather than the iconic trillions it is today and we talk again.
This guy is actually pushing in this direction without knowing.
I am certain that in case he is re-elected they will let him dig his own grave.

He isn't simplistic. He is a Billionaire businessman and he has just become US president. A simplistic man wouldn't be able to do that. He is obviously pretty intelligent.

I dont know what you mean about using USA or America, I do that too, and so do lots of people. It;s just easier.

He also has an entire State Apparatus behind him, which will not allow him to mess up too much.

The truth is Pyro, that America has been exploited quite a lot by its allies. It's defence spending is largely on account of other allies. That is the reality. America has 45,000 troops in Australia. Why? It's got nothing to do at all with having bases or interests. There are no other interests apart from the fact Australia is in the Asia Pacific, and that the troops are here on Australia's request as a deterrence and for the Defence of The Commonwealth of Australia. That is their purpose. These troops are under the Australian DoD and operate with the Australian Defence Force and they are welcome in Australia. And necessary. It sends China a very clear message. And we do have issues with the Chinese over vital Sea lanes through The South China Sea and once again, America is helping us with those interests.

So yes, we do use America and we have been taking the piss for a long time, and Trump has been the only US President to call it out.

The hing in Australia's favour is that Australia does meet its NATO/ANZUS requirements and obligations. Greece and UK do as well. What Trump is talking about are those countries that expect US Trumps and don't spend hardly anything on their own military - Germany for instance which is a rich country and is using US Troops.

The US Dollar isn't about to be replaced either. It's a currency of choice because it is the most stable or least volatile and is taken everywhere. there is also the Euro, and Europe is an ally to all of us and as respected as USA is, but the financial crisis really caused a lot of havoc and right now Italy isn't going very well. If the same thing happens to Italy as it did to Greece, the Euro would be destroyed.

[Paphitis]

As for the allies, we know that Trump is a footnote in US history for either 4 or 8 years. The US is a democratic system.

We have all been allies to them for the last 100 years, and they have been good friends to us. I say generally that this is the case. It hasn't been the case with Cyprus and sometimes we need to ask ourselves why that is the case.

That was the case because we were smart arses. We played with them and tormented them over their interests in the Mediterranean, and they said enough is enough and they tried to do something about that. I am not defending their actions at all, and these actions are indeed criminal as well, but a superpower isn't about to let things like that go if they think it is a threat to NATO. We were the wankers Pyro not the Americans. We had a country in 1960 and then we started doing stupid things to undermine that country and we also sent murderous squads into Turkish Cypriot villages and started killing women and children and we were even raping their women too Pyro. These are crimes too so we are in no position to talk. If we were not dickheads, then possibly Cyprus wouldn't be divided.

We have been with them Pyro because we like them. We like them more than Russia. They are a better country than Russia. They are a better country than China.

We prefer them because we don't want Russian or Chinese Hegemony. No one in the right mind will want that. We do not have hegemony from the USA. We have had all the respect given to us as allies. They don't manipulate us, use us, adversely influence our politics or institutions, they help us when we need help in a respectful manner, they don't steal our resources or our EEZ and Sea lanes but they help us protect them. We have free trade deals with them and a customs union as well. You can't ask for more than that.

People call the US a superpower that controls this and that and is a bully. The reality is, the US is keeping China and Russia at bay. The choices are USA, Russia, or China and you can bet your houses that most of us want USA and for good bloody reason. Whether its Trump, Carter, Reagan, Bush, or Clinton in power, or Bernie Sanders, it makes no difference at all. We will still want the USA. We are all speaking withone voice Pyro whether its Germany, UK, France, Italy, Australia, or Japan.

It's not hard to work out the reasons.

[Get Real!]

The financial genius they call "Trump"

Trump tariffs start biting U.S. companies
https://www.pressherald.com/2018/10/24/ ... companies/

At a small US factory, Trump’s trade war forces hard changes
https://wgem.com/2018/10/29/at-a-small- ... d-changes/

Stanley Black & Decker to increase prices because of tariffs
https://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/n ... se-of.html

The maker of Barbie dolls warns Trump’s tariffs ‘will impact the entire toy industry
https://usa-onlinenews.com/2018/10/26/t ... ustry-mat/

Even Cardboard Boxes Aren't Immune to U.S.-China Trade Tensions
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... e-tensions

Repercussions Mount But Trade War Really Just Starting
https://finance.townhall.com/columnists ... g-n2531870

iRobot loses $250M in market value over Trump tariffs
https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news ... trump.html

FORD’S HINRICHS SAYS TRUMP TARIFFS MAKE U.S. STEEL COSTLIEST IN THE WORLD
http://www.losangelesfinancialtimes.com ... the-world/

[Paphitis]

With respect to market corrections which have been caused due to the Free Trade War between China and US and jitters over the prospect of The Federal Reserve raising interest rates.

The Federal Reserve is raising interest rates because the US Economy is growing at a faster rate under Trump (a very inconvenient truth for much of the liberal media) and the US Federal Reserve wants to cool the economy and control inflation even though interest rates are an inflationary item in itself but at least it controls inflation on groceries and other life necessities. So the US economy is doing very well right now for Interest Rates to rise. FACT.

A few days ago there was a significant global correction, which is basically Wall Street and traders throwing their toys out of the pram. Yeh they don't like Trumps protectionism because they won't be allowed to open sweat shops in China anymore paying workers $20 per day. But yesterday, the Dow Jones is up 400 points and by now most of the lost ground has been reclaimed. So end result is a net zero.

I do watch the markets because I am significantly exposed. I have a Super Fund which is 100% Australian, and US Shares. So when the market takes a dive, it does impact on me. When I saw the news of the last correction I was more like meh...who cares? I'm not worried. Even though it probably cost me thousands. It is just a blip in time like many before it.

I have lived through a few corrections now. And I know from experience that once the dust settles, the markets rebound. Think of it like a war. During a war, nothing left standing but right after it there is another boom and before you know it, everything is good again.

One thing is for certain and this has been the case since the inception of Australia and US. The markets here always move forward and upwards. They have their blips of course but if you are invested in the markets, you will double your money every 5 to 7 years. This cycle has never been broken. Also markets always take a dive when the Central Bank raises interest rates. High Interest rates are an natural enemy to the stock markets and also property of course.

The only way you can lose your money is by investing in stupid markets like Cyprus and Greece where the Banks are idiotic wankers running unsustainable Banks that rely on money laundering, and the corporate world which is unregulated and operates without rules thus swindling people's money. Case in point - Cyprus market crash where people lost millions because people got stupid and greedy and started investing in high risk stocks that were over priced, and the Cyprus Financial Crisis and Credit crunch to due most loans being non-performing loans and debt.

So Mr Get Real, you have a long way to go before you can pull the other one.

[miltiades]

Talking about investments, something which i avoid talking about, here is a tip for all you investors.
Please DO NOT take my word for it. You do your own research as I do.
TomTom !! Closed down yesterday at €7.22. Possibility of a takeover bid. Should that happen shares will increase, subject to offet price, substantially. PLEASE.Do your own research, its NOT for the faint hearted.
Check the price on google, just search : tomtom share price.

[Pyrpolizer]

With respect to market corrections which have been caused due to the Free Trade War between China and US and jitters over the prospect of The Federal Reserve raising interest rates.

The Federal Reserve is raising interest rates because the US Economy is growing at a faster rate under Trump (a very inconvenient truth for much of the liberal media) and the US Federal Reserve wants to cool the economy and control inflation even though interest rates are an inflationary item in itself but at least it controls inflation on groceries and other life necessities. So the US economy is doing very well right now for Interest Rates to rise. FACT.

A few days ago there was a significant global correction, which is basically Wall Street and traders throwing their toys out of the pram. Yeh they don't like Trumps protectionism because they won't be allowed to open sweat shops in China anymore paying workers $20 per day. But yesterday, the Dow Jones is up 400 points and by now most of the lost ground has been reclaimed. So end result is a net zero.

I do watch the markets because I am significantly exposed. I have a Super Fund which is 100% Australian, and US Shares. So when the market takes a dive, it does impact on me. When I saw the news of the last correction I was more like meh...who cares? I'm not worried. Even though it probably cost me thousands. It is just a blip in time like many before it.

I have lived through a few corrections now. And I know from experience that once the dust settles, the markets rebound. Think of it like a war. During a war, nothing left standing but right after it there is another boom and before you know it, everything is good again.

One thing is for certain and this has been the case since the inception of Australia and US. The markets here always move forward and upwards. They have their blips of course but if you are invested in the markets, you will double your money every 5 to 7 years. This cycle has never been broken. Also markets always take a dive when the Central Bank raises interest rates. High Interest rates are an natural enemy to the stock markets and also property of course.

The only way you can lose your money is by investing in stupid markets like Cyprus and Greece where the Banks are idiotic wankers running unsustainable Banks that rely on money laundering, and the corporate world which is unregulated and operates without rules thus swindling people's money. Case in point - Cyprus market crash where people lost millions because people got stupid and greedy and started investing in high risk stocks that were over priced, and the Cyprus Financial Crisis and Credit crunch to due most loans being non-performing loans and debt.

So Mr Get Real, you have a long way to go before you can pull the other one.

As if you geniuses in Australia did not lose all your savings in the stock market crash of 1987.

https://game.asx.com.au/static/.../18_s ... sts_tr.pdf

[Paphitis]

With respect to market corrections which have been caused due to the Free Trade War between China and US and jitters over the prospect of The Federal Reserve raising interest rates.

The Federal Reserve is raising interest rates because the US Economy is growing at a faster rate under Trump (a very inconvenient truth for much of the liberal media) and the US Federal Reserve wants to cool the economy and control inflation even though interest rates are an inflationary item in itself but at least it controls inflation on groceries and other life necessities. So the US economy is doing very well right now for Interest Rates to rise. FACT.

A few days ago there was a significant global correction, which is basically Wall Street and traders throwing their toys out of the pram. Yeh they don't like Trumps protectionism because they won't be allowed to open sweat shops in China anymore paying workers $20 per day. But yesterday, the Dow Jones is up 400 points and by now most of the lost ground has been reclaimed. So end result is a net zero.

I do watch the markets because I am significantly exposed. I have a Super Fund which is 100% Australian, and US Shares. So when the market takes a dive, it does impact on me. When I saw the news of the last correction I was more like meh...who cares? I'm not worried. Even though it probably cost me thousands. It is just a blip in time like many before it.

I have lived through a few corrections now. And I know from experience that once the dust settles, the markets rebound. Think of it like a war. During a war, nothing left standing but right after it there is another boom and before you know it, everything is good again.

One thing is for certain and this has been the case since the inception of Australia and US. The markets here always move forward and upwards. They have their blips of course but if you are invested in the markets, you will double your money every 5 to 7 years. This cycle has never been broken. Also markets always take a dive when the Central Bank raises interest rates. High Interest rates are an natural enemy to the stock markets and also property of course.

The only way you can lose your money is by investing in stupid markets like Cyprus and Greece where the Banks are idiotic wankers running unsustainable Banks that rely on money laundering, and the corporate world which is unregulated and operates without rules thus swindling people's money. Case in point - Cyprus market crash where people lost millions because people got stupid and greedy and started investing in high risk stocks that were over priced, and the Cyprus Financial Crisis and Credit crunch to due most loans being non-performing loans and debt.

So Mr Get Real, you have a long way to go before you can pull the other one.

As if you geniuses in Australia did not lose all your savings in the stock market crash of 1987.

https://game.asx.com.au/static/.../18_s ... sts_tr.pdf

No they didn't Pyro. Not even close to it.

The market rebounded and long term investers didn't lose a thing.

If you view things in short term, then you can lose.

Black Monday was a a drop of the All Ords from 1300 points down to 1100 points. In other words an 18% drop.

Today, the all Ords is 6000. That is a net increase of about 600% from 1987.

No losses at all.

I don't know how quickly the 600 points were regained but I think it didn't take long at all.

We have seen many blips like this. This was a big one and 2008 was fairly biggish too. But at the end of the day, you only lose if you sell the next day. You don't realize any losses until you sell.

Where you guys went wrong is the fact you were crying blue murder that all your money was stolen because most of you are illiterates when it comes to the markets. Only a few years earlier you guys were riding donkeys before you started getting the banks to provide bad loans to buy Mercedes Benz and invest in Penny Dreadfuls because it all got to your heads.

You look at the trajectory of the All Ords which combines all Blue Chips and the high risk penny stocks combined. Now imagine how well you can do by investing in Blue Chip stocks like Banks, Gold Miners, Resource Companies, Oil Companies, and so on. Back then Gold was $100 an ounce. Now it is nearly $3000 an ounce.

Financial Planners actually have statistics that the Stock Market usually doubles your money every 5 to 7 years when in safe Blue Chips.

[Paphitis]

Yeh let's bring all the rich Russians in, who used Cyprus to launder their money through Cypriot Banks, who were then forced to write out stupid loans to survive. The rest is history!

[Pyrpolizer]

Prices alone don't reflect reality.
The 1987 was a crash because of the high buying volumes while prices were skyrocketing.
Something similar to what happened in Cyprus. People eventually lose their money in the long run, because they get stuck with worthless paper.

[miltiades]

Paphitis wrote :
". Back then Gold was $100 an ounce. Now it is nearly $3000 an ounce."

For FS General. You just made me a ....millionaire.Want to buy my gold at half price ? You can have it all at $1500 per ounce !!