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[Paphitis]

I was about to comment on Kikapus place of residence, being San Francisco.

Probably one of the places to live on this planet.

Yes it is liberal, but San Fran is gorgeous. Friggin bloomin gorgeous. If San Fran was a woman, it would be a super model.

I use to live in San Francisco for 25 years, Paphitis.

I now live in Zurich for the past 15 years, which isn't a too shabby place either!

Will be in SF at the beginning of November for couple of weeks.

I always pay a visit to my "super model" as often as I can!

Fucking love San Fran Kicks. West Coast USA I can handle anytime.

Sydney and San Fran have to be the best cities in the world.

With that comes a price DT. San Fran are desirable places, also expensive and sadly these places have their victims too. In other words, there are homeless.

You can’t rent a place for 200 Euro a month in these places. More like 2000 Euro per month which is like 3 times the average salary of Cyprus.

[Paphitis]

I was about to comment on Kikapus place of residence, being San Francisco.

Probably one of the places to live on this planet.

Yes it is liberal, but San Fran is gorgeous. Friggin bloomin gorgeous. If San Fran was a woman, it would be a super model.

I use to live in San Francisco for 25 years, Paphitis.

I now live in Zurich for the past 15 years, which isn't a too shabby place either!

Will be in SF at the beginning of November for couple of weeks.

I always pay a visit to my "super model" as often as I can!

Afraid your supermodel needs a facelift Kiks...was there last month again and I couldn’t walk out of a bar or restaurant without being jumped by homeless guys.

Were you at one of the bars in Union Square or North Beach by any chance?

That has been an ongoing problem since when I first arrived there in 1979, DT. That is one of the shameful non action acts at the city level, state level and federal level governments to solve the homeless situation in the US. West coast having the best weather all year around than most parts of the country with the exemption of Florida, San Francisco is afraid to solve their homeless problem, because they are afraid that the rest of the country will put their homeless on a bus to one way to SF. The city does provide them with some money or food stamps and a place to stay for the night when available, but it is only for the night and they they need to leave in the morning and come back again in the evening to see if there is any space for another night. Most homeless people do not bother to go through that kind of system, so instead, they would rather be on the streets to have better control over their lives. People who fall through the cracks in the USA is very hard for them to get back to normality. To able to survive in the San Francisco Bay Area financially is a challenge in the best of times, but if one falls too far, it is really very hard to get up again.

It’s a sad situation but it isn’t a problem that is unique to just San Fran. We have homeless in Australia - Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide. The State does provide welfare. But sadly, circumstances overtake some people with Alcohol abuse and drug abuse.

These are not cheap places either so when you are in such a predicament, I imagine it is pretty damn tough to get out.

These are the prices of internationalism I am afraid.

In Cyprus they just had an economic crisis so what is worse is just not having any opportunities or a job or any prospects or earning shit money like 600 Euros per month. That is what DT fails to mention because he has a business and is wealthy. Now imagine living off 600 Euros a month. That is the definition of working poor. This is the reality of most people in Cyprus. They also had their arseholes handed to them by the Banks.

In San Fran though, you have a chance to do well. You could get a good job or start up a business. Everything is on just another scale. And just down the road you have LA.

[Paphitis]

You see that’s the thing isn’t it.

When you talk about the homeless in Sydney or San Fran, you are talking about down and outs because they got some issues probably with Substance Abuse. The State does provide an unemployment benefit. It also provides rent assistance. It also provides free health in Australia’s case.

They all congregate in high foot traffic areas so they can beg. That’s the way it is. But they are also like 0.1% of people.

How many people don’t have a job in Cyprus? And those that do, how many are earning between 400 and 800 Euros per month? A lot are.

This is what affects a lot of people. People working and living week in week out.

In Australia, people on welfare earn more than the average worker in Cyprus. The Dole is $450 per week. Plus there is rent relieve and other benefits on top. And yes some are still homeless in big cities globally and we all know why. There is not much that can be done. When people want to shoot up on Crystal Meth it wouldn’t matter how good the welfare system is. Cyprus is just a small island and almost immune to these issues but you are not entirely immune because you will have homeless too.

Some are also victims of circumstances. Such as abuse, broken marriages or they lost their home for some reason.

And there is homeless in Cyprus

https://cyprus-mail.com/2017/02/25/lima ... -homeless/

https://m.facebook.com/hopeforhomelesscyprus/

I mean when you talk about Sydney, San Fran, Rome, New York or LA you are talking about big cities with millions of people.

Nicosia and Limassol are just small towns but you have homeless and poverty there too.

[Get Real!]

Nicosia and Limassol are just small towns but you have homeless and poverty there too.

I've never actually seen one but if they're out there you can probably count them with one hand.

[Kikapu]

You see that’s the thing isn’t it.

When you talk about the homeless in Sydney or San Fran, you are talking about down and outs because they got some issues probably with Substance Abuse. The State does provide an unemployment benefit. It also provides rent assistance. It also provides free health in Australia’s case.

They all congregate in high foot traffic areas so they can beg. That’s the way it is. But they are also like 0.1% of people.

How many people don’t have a job in Cyprus? And those that do, how many are earning between 400 and 800 Euros per month? A lot are.

This is what affects a lot of people. People working and living week in week out.

In Australia, people on welfare earn more than the average worker in Cyprus. The Dole is $450 per week. Plus there is rent relieve and other benefits on top. And yes some are still homeless in big cities globally and we all know why. There is not much that can be done. When people want to shoot up on Crystal Meth it wouldn’t matter how good the welfare system is. Cyprus is just a small island and almost immune to these issues but you are not entirely immune because you will have homeless too.

Some are also victims of circumstances. Such as abuse, broken marriages or they lost their home for some reason.

And there is homeless in Cyprus

https://cyprus-mail.com/2017/02/25/lima ... -homeless/

https://m.facebook.com/hopeforhomelesscyprus/

I mean when you talk about Sydney, San Fran, Rome, New York or LA you are talking about big cities with millions of people.

Nicosia and Limassol are just small towns but you have homeless and poverty there too.

A lot of the homeless in SF are people with psychological, drugs and alcohol problems. The city hospitals are free for anyone to use, but it is very slow service. A lot of ex military personal with psychological traumas of wars forgotten by their government are among the homeless. What is missing in the USA as it is more available in Cyprus and Europe in general, one one family member is down on their luck, there is usually family support to help them get back on their feet. In the USA, family support for the needy usually is in short supply sorry to say. It is all about capitalist mentality, that, if I can do it, so can you attitude. As it is often said, in the USA, anyone is one pay check away from becoming homeless if you can't pay your rent or your mortgage. No such assistance as there is in Europe and Australia. Since the Dot.Com explosion in the SF Bay Area of Silicon Valley, the whole Bay Area is very expensive to live, and once you fall through the cracks, it is very hard to get back on your feet despite receiving unemployment benefits, but it is never enough if you live in the Bay area of SF.

[Paphitis]

Nicosia and Limassol are just small towns but you have homeless and poverty there too.

I've never actually seen one but if they're out there you can probably count them with one hand.

Well it is the same in Sydney and in San Fran.

There are probably a few hundred or even a few thousand and they are all congregated in certain areas such as the Centre and tourist areas where they can achieve a better outcome with begging for money but I wouldn’t say there is a huge problem.

Some people are just down and out. Some are very sick with Alcohol and Drug abuse. Some have a lot of mental issues too. It’s pretty damn sad. But there is not a lot the Gov can do.

There are however many groups that have made shelters for these people from charitable organisations and the Church’s of various denominations also play a role.

The Ortjodox Church is Sydney has built a shelter too and houses homeless people. That is the great thing about it. People are willing to do whatever they can to help. The Government too provides grants and funding.

But sadly, drugs and alcohol are addictions which can just overcome some people and they lose all control over their lives. It’s not something to mock. There are just millions of people here and because there is a lot of people we have crime and drugs at another level. That is just the way it is

Also, being homeless, then Sydney or San Fran is probably not the place to be. It’s expensive to live. If however you need quick access to drugs, then maybe they are the right places.

[Get Real!]

Nicosia and Limassol are just small towns but you have homeless and poverty there too.

I've never actually seen one but if they're out there you can probably count them with one hand.

Well it is the same in Sydney and in San Fran.

You are seriously deluded... SF is a dump with many thousands of homeless:

https://abc7news.com/news/data-shows-sf ... s/1407123/

[Paphitis]

You see that’s the thing isn’t it.

When you talk about the homeless in Sydney or San Fran, you are talking about down and outs because they got some issues probably with Substance Abuse. The State does provide an unemployment benefit. It also provides rent assistance. It also provides free health in Australia’s case.

They all congregate in high foot traffic areas so they can beg. That’s the way it is. But they are also like 0.1% of people.

How many people don’t have a job in Cyprus? And those that do, how many are earning between 400 and 800 Euros per month? A lot are.

This is what affects a lot of people. People working and living week in week out.

In Australia, people on welfare earn more than the average worker in Cyprus. The Dole is $450 per week. Plus there is rent relieve and other benefits on top. And yes some are still homeless in big cities globally and we all know why. There is not much that can be done. When people want to shoot up on Crystal Meth it wouldn’t matter how good the welfare system is. Cyprus is just a small island and almost immune to these issues but you are not entirely immune because you will have homeless too.

Some are also victims of circumstances. Such as abuse, broken marriages or they lost their home for some reason.

And there is homeless in Cyprus

https://cyprus-mail.com/2017/02/25/lima ... -homeless/

https://m.facebook.com/hopeforhomelesscyprus/

I mean when you talk about Sydney, San Fran, Rome, New York or LA you are talking about big cities with millions of people.

Nicosia and Limassol are just small towns but you have homeless and poverty there too.

A lot of the homeless in SF are people with psychological, drugs and alcohol problems. The city hospitals are free for anyone to use, but it is very slow service. A lot of ex military personal with psychological traumas of wars forgotten by their government are among the homeless. What is missing in the USA as it is more available in Cyprus and Europe in general, one one family member is down on their luck, there is usually family support to help them get back on their feet. In the USA, family support for the needy usually is in short supply sorry to say. It is all about capitalist mentality, that, if I can do it, so can you attitude. As it is often said, in the USA, anyone is one pay check away from becoming homeless if you can't pay your rent or your mortgage. No such assistance as there is in Europe and Australia. Since the Dot.Com explosion in the SF Bay Area of Silicon Valley, the whole Bay Area is very expensive to live, and once you fall through the cracks, it is very hard to get back on your feet despite receiving unemployment benefits, but it is never enough if you live in the Bay area of SF.

We got that too Kikapu.

We got vets who are homeless. These are very sick people. They get a vets pension which is extremely generous and tax free. But when you got PTSD and addicted on some hard drugs then...

We have a very high suicide rate as well.

Some of these people were even among our brightest and strongest young people, and yet, they are now extremely ill. They have seen a lot with their eyes, and experienced a lot. They are in a very dark place.

We had patrols in Afghanistan that had witnessed 10 year old girls getting stoned to death, and they wanted to engage but were not allowed by the multinational Joint Services Ops Centre. People really do get screwed in the head from all the fucked up things they experienced and witnessed.

[Paphitis]

Nicosia and Limassol are just small towns but you have homeless and poverty there too.

I've never actually seen one but if they're out there you can probably count them with one hand.

Well it is the same in Sydney and in San Fran.

You are seriously deluded... SF is a dump with many thousands of homeless:

https://abc7news.com/news/data-shows-sf ... s/1407123/

A dump? Are you serious?

It would probably be one of the most expensive places in the States but certainly no dump. It’s a lot better than Nicosia or Limassol let me give you the tip. Compared to San Fran, both Nicosia and Limassol look like typical 3rd world cities.

[Kikapu]

Kikakopoulos… the conclusion:

It’s time to draw some conclusions from all this and take Kiks off the stove…


So is Kikakopoulos some sort of rare individual who has pushed aside his selfish community interests in favor of international law, justice, and all things admirable by the global community?

Fat chance…


Are you saying he’s not that rare individual on his way to sainthood as some of my daft compatriots here seem to have been imagining the past decade?

Absolutely never!


How about Kiks being a useful tool for the Republic in its campaign against the Turkish invader/occupier?

His stance can certainly be taken advantage of... but with the IQ of a jelly bean the Republic can’t think past UN complaint #45,832.


So what should Kikakopoulos do now?

Let bygones be bygones, adopt a more balanced stance, embrace his brothers and move on…


And what should the other TCs on the forum do now?

Accept their brother back into the fold and move on…


And what should the forum do about GR?

Burn him at the stake before he opens his mouth again.


And thus concludes my analysis of Kikakopoulos.

GR,

I will keep this very short, but first, I need to ask our "moonlighting" in-house psychoanalysis GR with his virtual couch as to how often he talks to himself with questions and answers?

Let me just say, that you got everything wrong about me in your "analysis" , so lets just leave it at that and lets go on to burn you at the stake!

Actually, not you in person, but an effigy of yourself!

All is forgotten!