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Re: is this plan b

Postby Lordo » Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:05 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:Interesting that in the 60s you forced us into 3 percent of cyprus and starved us, in the 70s you atempted to murders us and drove us out of cyprus and still you think you are the ones who need protection.

en onoussou dje xigollisen reh xero djehalo


Yes, it is the GC's and the other nationalities that need guarantees and protection in Cyprus and it is the same old, same old aggressive BS.

You cant be reasoned with on any political subject.

So Its simply not worth the time or energy engaging with you (or your wider community) on this topic.

Your community just cant get on with it and move on with your lives in your illegally occupied ethnically cleansed part of Cyprus.

Your community need to continue wasting everyone's time and causing trouble with the help and backing of Turkey.

wel thats all well and dandy but you have been able ethnically cleans 95% of tcs from the south in 1974 with no consequences. you really will be doing us all a favour offering us the possibility of getting on with our lives without embargoes and non-recognition. so yeah bring it on boy. lets go for two state solution everybody to be free to do as they wish like you have been doing since 1963. you still wil have to buy my properties in the south at the current prices and pay rent for the last 55 years. and away we go. feel free to claim from those who have yoyr properties in the north. mine was stolen by the roc. fancy that.
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Re: is this plan b

Postby DrCyprus » Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:38 pm

Lordo wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:Interesting that in the 60s you forced us into 3 percent of cyprus and starved us, in the 70s you atempted to murders us and drove us out of cyprus and still you think you are the ones who need protection.

en onoussou dje xigollisen reh xero djehalo


Yes, it is the GC's and the other nationalities that need guarantees and protection in Cyprus and it is the same old, same old aggressive BS.

You cant be reasoned with on any political subject.

So Its simply not worth the time or energy engaging with you (or your wider community) on this topic.

Your community just cant get on with it and move on with your lives in your illegally occupied ethnically cleansed part of Cyprus.

Your community need to continue wasting everyone's time and causing trouble with the help and backing of Turkey.

wel thats all well and dandy but you have been able ethnically cleans 95% of tcs from the south in 1974 with no consequences. you really will be doing us all a favour offering us the possibility of getting on with our lives without embargoes and non-recognition. so yeah bring it on boy. lets go for two state solution everybody to be free to do as they wish like you have been doing since 1963. you still wil have to buy my properties in the south at the current prices and pay rent for the last 55 years. and away we go. feel free to claim from those who have yoyr properties in the north. mine was stolen by the roc. fancy that.


Double speak. Turkish Cypriots went to the North because momma Turkey wanted them to and they are sheep who obey.
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Re: is this plan b

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:21 am

...while the discussion is focused on "Greeks" and "Turks", i will focus on the Cypriots who were (and are) their victims.

...indeed, for the "Turks" plan 'a', is (and always has been,) the island impotent, that no Cypriots exist, only "Greeks".

...indeed, if Akinci is a Cypriot, he will remind us who listen, on this fact. "Greeks" and "Turks", for the most part, never busied themselves killing each other.

...if he said that, standing under the Flag of Cyprus, a Turkish Constituency could exist.

As a Cypriot Constituency, as Persons, they may represent a tolerant society, (closer to their taxes with such representation effecting their daily lives), and, (being bicommunal,) representing themselves as Individuals under the Republic of Cyprus as Cypriots united toward defending not just this Liberty, but their Freedom, the Rule of Law and the Universal Principals on which it is based; as such, such an existence, Cypriot and Turkish speaking, is secured.

Nothing would prevent Cypriots as Cypriots to agree...

...that "being" Cypriot is possible, that while as Cypriots they are overwhelmingly Greek speaking, as Cypriots they are an ethnos.
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Re: is this plan b

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:37 pm

...i disagree, that there is no hope. Despite the efforts of those "Turkish" over decades, to assimilate Turkish Cypriots, they remain. Let's not forget Akinci's election, or the last elections for the Legislature; in both cases, it was not the "Turks" that won.

Akinci may have his own plan b, but he must decide if, he is a "Turk" or Turkish; who he will betray, he cannot be both. He, can stand beside the Flag of Cyprus, he can recognise that while he stands as the president of a constituent state, it is not an equal to the State. While as a Person, he may seek to sustain his distinct identity, he may express this fact too, that being Bicommunal, being an Individual as well, he is Cypriot and willing to reform (this State). Who at that point would be exposed? Who could deny that such a notion secures for Cypriots their identity? Who would be against it? Erdogan?

Erdogan may change his intentions too because the "Turkishness" that has divided Cyprus all these years, is now tearing Turkey itself apart. One Flag in Turkey, one Flag in Cyprus, is not so hard to understand. And what is wrong with a BBF in Turkey? Perhaps things are the other way around. It is not Turkey that will change Cyprus' identity, Cyprus will change Turkey's.

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