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Re: Staunch CY ally, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, gri

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:18 am

Get Real! wrote:Yes, I seem to have missed the part that he's an exiled Cuban.


This guy is a good friend to Cyprus. There are few others just like him in the US Congress and Senate.

What the Cyprus Government should be doing right now is going to the US to meet with people like that, and meet with Trump.

Trumo is a maverick. He will do things his way or the its the highway. He is the most likely US President to take a very harsh stance against Turkey.

Trump makes up the rules as he goes along. For instance, he puts a 25% tariff on steele in one breath and then turns around and exempts Australia because Australia is a great friend.

Also, don't forget that Saudi Arabia dismembered a Washington Post Journalist and then dissolved the body parts in acid in Turkey. How hideous can you get?

Trump is anti establishment Get Real. He is America's answer to pootin.
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Re: Staunch CY ally, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, gri

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:39 am

Get Real! wrote:Yes, I seem to have missed the part that he's an exiled Cuban.


He didn't like Christofias though. He thought Christofias was an idiot!

In October 2009, Menendez sent a strongly worded letter of protest to Cyprus President Dimitris Christofias, castigating him for his praise of Cuba's totalitarian system. Christofias, the leader of AKEL, Cyprus's Communist Party, from 1988 to 2009 and president from 2008 to 2013, had paid a state visit to Cuba in September 2009 for the opening of Cyprus's new embassy and, in his speech, made a number of anti-American embargo references, and spoke of the "common struggle of Cyprus and Cuba". In his letter to Christofias, Menendez stated "you cannot claim human rights violations by Turkey in your country and then ignore such violations in Cuba. Second, you cannot call for property rights for Greek Cypriots and then deny them on Cuba. Finally, you cannot take issue with the militarization of northern Cyprus and then ignore the state security apparatus that oppresses the Cuban people."

You won't find a Cuban in America that has anything good to say about Cuba's Totalitarian Regime or Castro.

He is also correct that we can't claim the things we do about Turkey and be supportive of HR and property violations by the regime in Cuba.

But despite the lunacy, this guy seems to still go in and bat for Cyprus and is against its partition and occupation.
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Re: Staunch CY ally, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, gri

Postby DT. » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:52 am

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Yes, I seem to have missed the part that he's an exiled Cuban.


He didn't like Christofias though. He thought Christofias was an idiot!

In October 2009, Menendez sent a strongly worded letter of protest to Cyprus President Dimitris Christofias, castigating him for his praise of Cuba's totalitarian system. Christofias, the leader of AKEL, Cyprus's Communist Party, from 1988 to 2009 and president from 2008 to 2013, had paid a state visit to Cuba in September 2009 for the opening of Cyprus's new embassy and, in his speech, made a number of anti-American embargo references, and spoke of the "common struggle of Cyprus and Cuba". In his letter to Christofias, Menendez stated "you cannot claim human rights violations by Turkey in your country and then ignore such violations in Cuba. Second, you cannot call for property rights for Greek Cypriots and then deny them on Cuba. Finally, you cannot take issue with the militarization of northern Cyprus and then ignore the state security apparatus that oppresses the Cuban people."

You won't find a Cuban in America that has anything good to say about Cuba's Totalitarian Regime or Castro.

He is also correct that we can't claim the things we do about Turkey and be supportive of HR and property violations by the regime in Cuba.

But despite the lunacy, this guy seems to still go in and bat for Cyprus and is against its partition and occupation.


He goes in and bats for us because he's well funded by a number of groups that lobby for Cyprus or are aligned equally against Turkey. No mystery there.

As far as Katastrofkias goes....I personally still have issues reconciling in my head that he and I share a nationality.
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Re: Staunch CY ally, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, gri

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:45 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Yes, I seem to have missed the part that he's an exiled Cuban.


He didn't like Christofias though. He thought Christofias was an idiot!

In October 2009, Menendez sent a strongly worded letter of protest to Cyprus President Dimitris Christofias, castigating him for his praise of Cuba's totalitarian system. Christofias, the leader of AKEL, Cyprus's Communist Party, from 1988 to 2009 and president from 2008 to 2013, had paid a state visit to Cuba in September 2009 for the opening of Cyprus's new embassy and, in his speech, made a number of anti-American embargo references, and spoke of the "common struggle of Cyprus and Cuba". In his letter to Christofias, Menendez stated "you cannot claim human rights violations by Turkey in your country and then ignore such violations in Cuba. Second, you cannot call for property rights for Greek Cypriots and then deny them on Cuba. Finally, you cannot take issue with the militarization of northern Cyprus and then ignore the state security apparatus that oppresses the Cuban people."

You won't find a Cuban in America that has anything good to say about Cuba's Totalitarian Regime or Castro.

He is also correct that we can't claim the things we do about Turkey and be supportive of HR and property violations by the regime in Cuba.

But despite the lunacy, this guy seems to still go in and bat for Cyprus and is against its partition and occupation.


He goes in and bats for us because he's well funded by a number of groups that lobby for Cyprus or are aligned equally against Turkey. No mystery there.

As far as Katastrofkias goes....I personally still have issues reconciling in my head that he and I share a nationality.


I remember meeting him once (Christofias) and I was just amazed at how simple (as in not very intelligent ) he was.

I simply just couldn't reconcile the fact that this guy was President of RoC. The way he talked was cringe-worthy even in his native tongue, but even if he tried to speak English it was truly a face palm moment. At that point you would never admit you were even Cypriot.

He was really so short too.

As for Menendez, yeh well that's politics isn't it? I am sure he has his agenda, or is in cahoots with other interest groups that just so happen to have similar interests or is funded by specific interest groups. Probably the Israelis behind the scenes who have it in for Turkey.

It's the same with the NRA. They fund a lot of US politicians so neither the Democrats or the Republicans are willing to legislate against Automatic and Semi-automatic rifles.

I firmly believe that the RoC President needs to get over to Washington and start rubbing shoulders with Congress, the Senate and maybe have some meetings with specific lobby groups and meet with Trump.
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Re: Staunch CY ally, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, gri

Postby DT. » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:27 pm

Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Yes, I seem to have missed the part that he's an exiled Cuban.


He didn't like Christofias though. He thought Christofias was an idiot!

In October 2009, Menendez sent a strongly worded letter of protest to Cyprus President Dimitris Christofias, castigating him for his praise of Cuba's totalitarian system. Christofias, the leader of AKEL, Cyprus's Communist Party, from 1988 to 2009 and president from 2008 to 2013, had paid a state visit to Cuba in September 2009 for the opening of Cyprus's new embassy and, in his speech, made a number of anti-American embargo references, and spoke of the "common struggle of Cyprus and Cuba". In his letter to Christofias, Menendez stated "you cannot claim human rights violations by Turkey in your country and then ignore such violations in Cuba. Second, you cannot call for property rights for Greek Cypriots and then deny them on Cuba. Finally, you cannot take issue with the militarization of northern Cyprus and then ignore the state security apparatus that oppresses the Cuban people."

You won't find a Cuban in America that has anything good to say about Cuba's Totalitarian Regime or Castro.

He is also correct that we can't claim the things we do about Turkey and be supportive of HR and property violations by the regime in Cuba.

But despite the lunacy, this guy seems to still go in and bat for Cyprus and is against its partition and occupation.


He goes in and bats for us because he's well funded by a number of groups that lobby for Cyprus or are aligned equally against Turkey. No mystery there.

As far as Katastrofkias goes....I personally still have issues reconciling in my head that he and I share a nationality.


I remember meeting him once (Christofias) and I was just amazed at how simple (as in not very intelligent ) he was.

I simply just couldn't reconcile the fact that this guy was President of RoC. The way he talked was cringe-worthy even in his native tongue, but even if he tried to speak English it was truly a face palm moment. At that point you would never admit you were even Cypriot.

He was really so short too.

As for Menendez, yeh well that's politics isn't it? I am sure he has his agenda, or is in cahoots with other interest groups that just so happen to have similar interests or is funded by specific interest groups. Probably the Israelis behind the scenes who have it in for Turkey.

It's the same with the NRA. They fund a lot of US politicians so neither the Democrats or the Republicans are willing to legislate against Automatic and Semi-automatic rifles.

I firmly believe that the RoC President needs to get over to Washington and start rubbing shoulders with Congress, the Senate and maybe have some meetings with specific lobby groups and meet with Trump.


This administration is very much in bed with trump. Foreign Minister is out there right now meeting with Pompeo the Secretary of State on an official meeting. A MOU has been signed with respect to security and it seems like the US arms embargo on Cyprus is about to be dropped. We've flown over with the govt a number of times to NY and they're all frequent visitors to Washington. Just Anastasiades himself has been over a total of 5 times this year for US govt (not including the UN) meetings.
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Re: Staunch CY ally, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, gri

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:30 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Yes, I seem to have missed the part that he's an exiled Cuban.


He didn't like Christofias though. He thought Christofias was an idiot!

In October 2009, Menendez sent a strongly worded letter of protest to Cyprus President Dimitris Christofias, castigating him for his praise of Cuba's totalitarian system. Christofias, the leader of AKEL, Cyprus's Communist Party, from 1988 to 2009 and president from 2008 to 2013, had paid a state visit to Cuba in September 2009 for the opening of Cyprus's new embassy and, in his speech, made a number of anti-American embargo references, and spoke of the "common struggle of Cyprus and Cuba". In his letter to Christofias, Menendez stated "you cannot claim human rights violations by Turkey in your country and then ignore such violations in Cuba. Second, you cannot call for property rights for Greek Cypriots and then deny them on Cuba. Finally, you cannot take issue with the militarization of northern Cyprus and then ignore the state security apparatus that oppresses the Cuban people."

You won't find a Cuban in America that has anything good to say about Cuba's Totalitarian Regime or Castro.

He is also correct that we can't claim the things we do about Turkey and be supportive of HR and property violations by the regime in Cuba.

But despite the lunacy, this guy seems to still go in and bat for Cyprus and is against its partition and occupation.


He goes in and bats for us because he's well funded by a number of groups that lobby for Cyprus or are aligned equally against Turkey. No mystery there.

As far as Katastrofkias goes....I personally still have issues reconciling in my head that he and I share a nationality.


I remember meeting him once (Christofias) and I was just amazed at how simple (as in not very intelligent ) he was.

I simply just couldn't reconcile the fact that this guy was President of RoC. The way he talked was cringe-worthy even in his native tongue, but even if he tried to speak English it was truly a face palm moment. At that point you would never admit you were even Cypriot.

He was really so short too.

As for Menendez, yeh well that's politics isn't it? I am sure he has his agenda, or is in cahoots with other interest groups that just so happen to have similar interests or is funded by specific interest groups. Probably the Israelis behind the scenes who have it in for Turkey.

It's the same with the NRA. They fund a lot of US politicians so neither the Democrats or the Republicans are willing to legislate against Automatic and Semi-automatic rifles.

I firmly believe that the RoC President needs to get over to Washington and start rubbing shoulders with Congress, the Senate and maybe have some meetings with specific lobby groups and meet with Trump.


This administration is very much in bed with trump. Foreign Minister is out there right now meeting with Pompeo the Secretary of State on an official meeting. A MOU has been signed with respect to security and it seems like the US arms embargo on Cyprus is about to be dropped. We've flown over with the govt a number of times to NY and they're all frequent visitors to Washington. Just Anastasiades himself has been over a total of 5 times this year for US govt (not including the UN) meetings.


That's good DT. I am glad that is the case.

Trump is capable of anything. I don't think he gives a stuff about Turkey.

Did you see the way he lambasted the CNN journalist during a press conference?

BTW, your Foreign Minister is fantastic. He is a great fella. :D

He should be Presidential material himself as well. Heart in the correct place. Young, intelligent, charismatic, and has finesse and style.
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Re: Staunch CY ally, Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey, gri

Postby kurupetos » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
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DT. wrote:Overheard at a cocktail party last time he was in Cyprus.....one of our “genius” MP’s decided to offer out some of his expensive Cuban cigars. Considering the Senator as an ethnic Cuban the moron thought he’d be worshipped.

Menendez instead turned round to him and said, “ my country has an embargo on those products due to the violent regime that exports them. Perhaps next time you come to the US I should offer you mandarins from Morphou”

Cuban cigars have always been a favorite of US politicians despite all the animosity with Cuba and I don't exactly know how but I'm pretty sure many US politicians manage to get their hands on them which they share out at parties etc.


Menendez hated the Castro regime with a passion. Expected the same respect back from the Cypriots who were constantly asking for non recognition and trade embargo on the occupied areas.

Sounds like the poor guy landed on a bikrokolos... :?

Papapetrou or some other local traitor... :x
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