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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:12 am

Paphitis wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com.au/step-aboard-the-admiral-kuznetsov-russias-only-aircraft-carrier-2018-5

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/tug- ... ?r=US&IR=T

:lol: :lol: :lol:


FYI:

Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov - Wikipedia

The design of Admiral Kuznetsov-class implies a mission different from that of the United States Navy's carriers. The term used by her builders to describe the Russian ships is tyazholyy avianesushchiy kreyser (TAVKR) – "heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser" – intended to support and defend strategic missile-carrying submarines, surface ships, and naval missile-carrying aircraft of the Russian Navy.


Kuznetzov is a floating airfield and heavy cruiser, built in the Soviet era for use in the vast coastal areas of Russia where there are no ground facilities. US Aircraft Carriers, in fact ANY aircraft carrier. Is intended to project a nations power against other countries. Thus the term ‘aircraft carrier’ as opposed to ‘aircraft carrying cruiser’, denotes an offensive weapon. That is why Kuznetzov only carries 18 aircraft and US carriers over sixty. Its primary use was never intended to project Soviet power.

It is currently undergoing a refit I believe, first major refit since its launch in 1985. They scrapped any idea of further carriers when they realised it was better to spend the money developing weapons to destroy other peoples carriers if the need arose. They’re smart .... these Russians. :wink:

Remind me ..... how many aircraft carriers does Australia have? :?: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:25 am

Fantastic insight there.

So wherever we see the Kuznetsov, we know that Russian submarines are nearby.

Should make our job much easier. We will just look for the chimney stack plume. :lol: :lol:

Western submarines don’t need support. They are autonomous and stay submerged for months and rely on their non detection.

Damn, shame the Kuznetsoff rust bucket is in dry dock... :lol: we didn’t realise it is there to support Russian Submarines. Man, might as well just give us all the coordinates! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:37 am

Well that’s a very strange 2018 report Paphitis, because the Kuznetsov made its last trip when it was right next to Cyprus last year (2017) and then left for a shipyard in Russia where it has remained since, and will remain until around 2020 when they're done with repairs/upgrades/whatever.

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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:41 am

Now why would you publish an article in December 2018 about a ship that was grounded a year and a half earlier?

I guess because you have no new material to offer so you’re going over old stories again knowing that your readers (like Paphitis) will be too dumb to know! :lol:
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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Londonrake » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:54 am

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russ ... -t8vp37bcr

AFAIUI she lost 5 of her aircraft due to technical failures on her last Syrian detachment:

https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/05/r ... t-carrier/

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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:58 am

Londonrake wrote:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russia-faces-loss-of-its-only-aircraft-carrier-after-cranemishap-t8vp37bcr

AFAIUI she lost 5 of her aircraft due to technical failures on her last Syrian detachment:

https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/05/r ... t-carrier/

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Indeed that's the latest news on the Kutz… an accident at the dockyard, but It’ll take Paphitis another 5 years of junk links before he gets up to date with the story and by then he’ll be behind again! :lol:
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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:09 am

Robin Hood wrote:Remind me ..... how many aircraft carriers does Australia have? :?: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why stop there? A few days ago Paphitis... not only thought Australia possesses aircraft carriers, but also manufactures them! 8) :lol:
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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:18 am

Londonrake wrote:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/russia-faces-loss-of-its-only-aircraft-carrier-after-cranemishap-t8vp37bcr

AFAIUI she lost 5 of her aircraft due to technical failures on her last Syrian detachment:

https://theaviationist.com/2016/12/05/r ... t-carrier/

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Yeh the catapults failed and went in the drink a couple of times too! :lol:

So funny....
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Re: Oh Pootin! What happened to your only Aircraft Carrier?

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:21 am

Get Real! wrote:Now why would you publish an article in December 2018 about a ship that was grounded a year and a half earlier?

I guess because you have no new material to offer so you’re going over old stories again knowing that your readers (like Paphitis) will be too dumb to know! :lol:


One of my friends told me that the Russian Navy is pretty much the only one that has tug boats in toe because of the high possibility of mechanical failure. Apparently a large proportion of the fleet is in a diabolical state. I was sceptical about it until I did some research and found out it was true.

The Kuznetzoff is what we all remember as it was sailing through the English Channel on the way to Syria with a plume that can be seen in London. :lol:
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